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97 Caravan-new noise...CV joint?
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Corky - 07 Apr 2005 18:09 GMT When I turn to the left, there is a humming kind of vibration, similar to what you would feel when you drive over those vibration strips on the highway (but less pronounced). This doesn't happen when I'm turning to the left.
What can this be? Is it a CV joint, wheel bearing, etc? I'm assuming that it would be the right side, because that's where the pressure is exerted when turning left(?)
Any help is appreciated. -Corky
maxpower - 07 Apr 2005 19:26 GMT > When I turn to the left, there is a humming kind of vibration, similar > to what you would feel when you drive over those vibration strips on [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > Any help is appreciated. > -Corky Sounds like a wheel Bearing, Bill Putney can help you out with that!! But Im with you the right side!!!
Bill Putney - 07 Apr 2005 19:44 GMT >>When I turn to the left, there is a humming kind of vibration, similar >>to what you would feel when you drive over those vibration strips on [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > Sounds like a wheel Bearing, Bill Putney can help you out with that!! But > Im with you the right side!!! Crap - I'm not getting into that again!! 8^)
(actually the OP contradicts himself: "When I turn to the left, there is a humming...This doesn't happen when I'm turning to the left" - but I think he meant what he said the first time. Therefore I say bad left side bearing.)
Corky - do us a favor and let us know which side it was. We're keeping score on this.
Bill Putney (To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my adddress with the letter 'x')
maxpower - 07 Apr 2005 22:40 GMT > >>When I turn to the left, there is a humming kind of vibration, similar > >>to what you would feel when you drive over those vibration strips on [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > Corky - do us a favor and let us know which side it was. We're keeping > score on this. I got a laugh out of that comment, fell off my damn excersize ball No im not, im out of this i will not comment. im still confused on the last one
> Bill Putney > (To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my > adddress with the letter 'x') Corky - 08 Apr 2005 20:31 GMT OK, I'm really confused. I get the noise when turning left, so the wheel bearing I need to replace is the left one? Please answer "correct" if this is the case, instead of the OTHER word that you could use to confirm my comment. Then this will just turn into some kind of freakish "Who's on First" skit...
-corky
maxpower - 08 Apr 2005 23:07 GMT > OK, I'm really confused. I get the noise when turning left, so the > wheel bearing I need to replace is the left one? Please answer [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > -corky Bill? sound familiar?
Bill Putney - 09 Apr 2005 01:19 GMT >>OK, I'm really confused. I get the noise when turning left, so the >>wheel bearing I need to replace is the left one? Please answer [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Bill? sound familiar? LalalalalalaI'mnotlisteninglalalala...
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Bill Putney - 09 Apr 2005 01:10 GMT > OK, I'm really confused. I get the noise when turning left, so the > wheel bearing I need to replace is the left one? Please answer [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > -corky This has been a running argument. Since turning left turns the noise on and turning right turns it off, if I'm correct, you will need to replace the bearing on the left side. If everybody else is correct, you will need to replace the bearing on the right (U.S. passenger) side. 8^)
Bill Putney (To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my adddress with the letter 'x')
maxpower - 09 Apr 2005 01:40 GMT Right.........side.....by the way, who wasnt on first, he was on second
> > OK, I'm really confused. I get the noise when turning left, so the > > wheel bearing I need to replace is the left one? Please answer [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > (To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my > adddress with the letter 'x') Corky - 09 Apr 2005 02:44 GMT > > OK, I'm really confused. I get the noise when turning left, so the > > wheel bearing I need to replace is the left one? Please answer [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > and turning right turns it off, if I'm correct, you will need to replace > the bearing on the left side. If everybody else is correct, you will
> need to replace the bearing on the right (U.S. passenger) side. 8^) > > Bill Putney > (To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my > adddress with the letter 'x') I guess I can help you guys put this to rest. I'm going to try the left first, because that's what my physics gut tells me. If that doesn't work, I'll do the right. Hopefully, we'll find out which one of you is correct after I am done with one or both of the above actions. If not, then I'm a couple hundred bucks poorer, I haven't helped settle the argument, and a nice Saturday is shot.
I'll let you know.
-Corky
aarcuda69062 - 09 Apr 2005 04:05 GMT In article <1113011063.533814.325130@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com>,
> I guess I can help you guys put this to rest. I'm going to try the left > first, because that's what my physics gut tells me. If that doesn't [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > -Corky http://www2.northerntool.com/product-1/385487.htm
mic canic - 09 Apr 2005 04:35 GMT if you think it's a wheel bearing try lifting vehicle and run it at highway speeds and (carefully) placing your hand on the strut spring. if you feel the vibration thru the spring it's your bearing
> > > OK, I'm really confused. I get the noise when turning left, so the > > > wheel bearing I need to replace is the left one? Please answer [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > > -Corky Corky - 09 Apr 2005 05:09 GMT Actually, I meant the other way around. I'm trying the RIGHT first becuase it makes the noise when I turn LEFT.
Bill Putney - 09 Apr 2005 05:17 GMT > Actually, I meant the other way around. I'm trying the RIGHT first > becuase it makes the noise when I turn LEFT. You're sure now - 'cause you contradicted yourself in your first post about that?
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Joe Pfeiffer - 09 Apr 2005 06:30 GMT > Actually, I meant the other way around. I'm trying the RIGHT first > becuase it makes the noise when I turn LEFT. Since parts like bearings tend to fail in pairs, I'd put it up on stands and look at both sides. If there's some obvious damage to one I'd replace it; otherwise I'd replace both.
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maxpower - 09 Apr 2005 11:43 GMT > > Actually, I meant the other way around. I'm trying the RIGHT first > > becuase it makes the noise when I turn LEFT. > > Since parts like bearings tend to fail in pairs, I'd put it up on > stands and look at both sides. If there's some obvious damage to one > I'd replace it; otherwise I'd replace both. I disagree with you there. explain that
Treeline - 11 Apr 2005 04:01 GMT > > > Actually, I meant the other way around. I'm trying the RIGHT first > > > becuase it makes the noise when I turn LEFT. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > I disagree with you there. explain that This is very difficult but since one is a mechanic and the other, a computer scientist, let me intervene and suggest the Turing theorem involving when a computer halts. A. Turing proved, in a remarkable but tricky manner, that it is utterly impossible to write an algorithm, which a decade later became a computer program which will predict when a computer halts or stops.
Am I right or even close?
Okay, it's kind of like MTBF, Mean Time Between Failures. No one knows exactly when a part is going to fail. But if a ball joint fails at 100,000 miles, and the other one at 150,000 miles, it appears that they both failed at the "same time," that is, in the same lifetime. So if you are going to get out the grease and jacks, might as well do both of them. Now a professional mechanic, OTOH, who has his tools handy all the time might not want to waste 15 minutes if it's going to take another 50,000 miles for the second bearing to fail. Also, ethically, it's a little safer to take that route for the mechanic.
Did I make it better or worse?
Corky - 13 Apr 2005 22:07 GMT > Actually, I meant the other way around. I'm trying the RIGHT first > becuase it makes the noise when I turn LEFT. No dice...but it was a piece of cake to do the job and the assembly was only $80. Maybe I'll do the other one next weekend just to see, or maybe use the bearing I took off the right side.
I did notice when I took the wheel off a very slight cupping of the tire. So slight that I'm not even sure it was cupping. The tire was a bit low a couple weeks ago so maybe that's it.
Anyhow, that's the update.
-corky
maxpower - 09 Apr 2005 11:42 GMT > > > OK, I'm really confused. I get the noise when turning left, so the > > > wheel bearing I need to replace is the left one? Please answer [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > > -Corky Hmm great teacher
Joe - 08 Apr 2005 03:23 GMT It's a wheel bearing. I agree with you that it's on the right, but I'm sure I could be wrong. They can be kind of hard to isolate by sound.
> When I turn to the left, there is a humming kind of vibration, similar > to what you would feel when you drive over those vibration strips on [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > Any help is appreciated. > -Corky jdoe - 08 Apr 2005 12:26 GMT Check your tires to see if there is any "cupping". Barring that a bad bearing. Larry
> When I turn to the left, there is a humming kind of vibration, similar > to what you would feel when you drive over those vibration strips on [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > Any help is appreciated. > -Corky Corky - 08 Apr 2005 20:27 GMT Thanks guys.
I meant that the noise only happens when I turn to the left, NOT when I turn to the right. Unless one of you guys wants to pay me off to say I meant the other way around. ;)
I guess I'm doing the right wheel bearing this weekend...
-corky
> Check your tires to see if there is any "cupping". Barring that a bad
> bearing. > Larry [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Any help is appreciated. > > -Corky
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