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97 Caravan-new noise...CV joint?

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Corky - 07 Apr 2005 18:09 GMT
When I turn to the left, there is a humming kind of vibration, similar
to what you would feel when you drive over those vibration strips on
the highway (but less pronounced). This doesn't happen when I'm turning
to the left.

What can this be? Is it a CV joint, wheel bearing, etc? I'm assuming
that it would be the right side, because that's where the pressure is
exerted when turning left(?)

Any help is appreciated.
-Corky
maxpower - 07 Apr 2005 19:26 GMT
> When I turn to the left, there is a humming kind of vibration, similar
> to what you would feel when you drive over those vibration strips on
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> Any help is appreciated.
> -Corky

Sounds like a wheel Bearing, Bill  Putney can help you out with that!!  But
Im with you the right side!!!
Bill Putney - 07 Apr 2005 19:44 GMT
>>When I turn to the left, there is a humming kind of vibration, similar
>>to what you would feel when you drive over those vibration strips on
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> Sounds like a wheel Bearing, Bill  Putney can help you out with that!!  But
> Im with you the right side!!!

Crap - I'm not getting into that again!!  8^)

(actually the OP contradicts himself: "When I turn to the left, there is
a humming...This doesn't happen when I'm turning to the left" - but I
think he meant what he said the first time.  Therefore I say bad left
side bearing.)

Corky - do us a favor and let us know which side it was.  We're keeping
score on this.

Bill Putney
(To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my
adddress with the letter 'x')
maxpower - 07 Apr 2005 22:40 GMT
> >>When I turn to the left, there is a humming kind of vibration, similar
> >>to what you would feel when you drive over those vibration strips on
[quoted text clipped - 20 lines]
> Corky - do us a favor and let us know which side it was.  We're keeping
> score on this.

I got a laugh out of that comment, fell off my damn excersize ball
No im not, im out of this i will not comment. im still confused on the last
one

> Bill Putney
> (To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my
> adddress with the letter 'x')
Corky - 08 Apr 2005 20:31 GMT
OK, I'm really confused. I get the noise when turning left, so the
wheel bearing I need to replace is the left one? Please answer
"correct" if this is the case, instead of the OTHER word that you could
use to confirm my comment. Then this will just turn into some kind of
freakish "Who's on First" skit...

-corky
maxpower - 08 Apr 2005 23:07 GMT
> OK, I'm really confused. I get the noise when turning left, so the
> wheel bearing I need to replace is the left one? Please answer
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> -corky

Bill? sound familiar?
Bill Putney - 09 Apr 2005 01:19 GMT
>>OK, I'm really confused. I get the noise when turning left, so the
>>wheel bearing I need to replace is the left one? Please answer
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
> Bill? sound familiar?

LalalalalalaI'mnotlisteninglalalala...

Bill Putney
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Bill Putney - 09 Apr 2005 01:10 GMT
> OK, I'm really confused. I get the noise when turning left, so the
> wheel bearing I need to replace is the left one? Please answer
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> -corky

This has been a running argument.  Since turning left turns the noise on
and turning right turns it off, if I'm correct, you will need to replace
the bearing on the left side.  If everybody else is correct, you will
need to replace the bearing on the right (U.S. passenger) side.  8^)

Bill Putney
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maxpower - 09 Apr 2005 01:40 GMT
Right.........side.....by the way, who wasnt on first, he was on second

> > OK, I'm really confused. I get the noise when turning left, so the
> > wheel bearing I need to replace is the left one? Please answer
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> (To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my
> adddress with the letter 'x')
Corky - 09 Apr 2005 02:44 GMT
> > OK, I'm really confused. I get the noise when turning left, so the
> > wheel bearing I need to replace is the left one? Please answer
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> and turning right turns it off, if I'm correct, you will need to replace
> the bearing on the left side.  If everybody else is correct, you will

> need to replace the bearing on the right (U.S. passenger) side.  8^)
>
> Bill Putney
> (To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my
> adddress with the letter 'x')

I guess I can help you guys put this to rest. I'm going to try the left
first, because that's what my physics gut tells me. If that doesn't
work, I'll do the right. Hopefully, we'll find out which one of you is
correct after I am done with one or both of the above actions. If not,
then I'm a couple hundred bucks poorer, I haven't helped settle the
argument, and a nice Saturday is shot.

I'll let you know.

-Corky
aarcuda69062 - 09 Apr 2005 04:05 GMT
In article
<1113011063.533814.325130@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com>,

> I guess I can help you guys put this to rest. I'm going to try the left
> first, because that's what my physics gut tells me. If that doesn't
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
> -Corky

http://www2.northerntool.com/product-1/385487.htm
mic canic - 09 Apr 2005 04:35 GMT
if you think it's a wheel bearing try
lifting vehicle and run it at highway speeds and (carefully) placing your
hand on the strut spring. if you feel the vibration thru the spring it's
your bearing

> > > OK, I'm really confused. I get the noise when turning left, so the
> > > wheel bearing I need to replace is the left one? Please answer
[quoted text clipped - 28 lines]
>
> -Corky
Corky - 09 Apr 2005 05:09 GMT
Actually, I meant the other way around. I'm trying the RIGHT first
becuase it makes the noise when I turn LEFT.
Bill Putney - 09 Apr 2005 05:17 GMT
> Actually, I meant the other way around. I'm trying the RIGHT first
> becuase it makes the noise when I turn LEFT.

You're sure now - 'cause you contradicted yourself in your first post
about that?

Bill Putney
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Joe Pfeiffer - 09 Apr 2005 06:30 GMT
> Actually, I meant the other way around. I'm trying the RIGHT first
> becuase it makes the noise when I turn LEFT.

Since parts like bearings tend to fail in pairs, I'd put it up on
stands and look at both sides.  If there's some obvious damage to one
I'd replace it; otherwise I'd replace both.
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maxpower - 09 Apr 2005 11:43 GMT
> > Actually, I meant the other way around. I'm trying the RIGHT first
> > becuase it makes the noise when I turn LEFT.
>
> Since parts like bearings tend to fail in pairs, I'd put it up on
> stands and look at both sides.  If there's some obvious damage to one
> I'd replace it; otherwise I'd replace both.

I disagree with you there. explain that
Treeline - 11 Apr 2005 04:01 GMT
> > > Actually, I meant the other way around. I'm trying the RIGHT first
> > > becuase it makes the noise when I turn LEFT.
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>
> I disagree with you there. explain that

This is very difficult but since one is a mechanic and the other, a computer
scientist, let me intervene and suggest the Turing theorem involving when a
computer halts. A. Turing proved, in a remarkable but tricky manner, that it is
utterly impossible to write an algorithm, which a decade later became a
computer program which will predict when a computer halts or stops.

Am I right or even close?

Okay, it's kind of like MTBF, Mean Time Between Failures. No one knows exactly
when a part is going to fail. But if a ball joint fails at 100,000 miles, and
the other one at 150,000 miles, it appears that they both failed at the "same
time," that is, in the same lifetime. So if you are going to get out the grease
and jacks, might as well do both of them. Now a professional mechanic, OTOH,
who has his tools handy all the time might not want to waste 15 minutes if it's
going to take another 50,000 miles for the second bearing to fail. Also,
ethically, it's a little safer to take that route for the mechanic.

Did I make it better or worse?
Corky - 13 Apr 2005 22:07 GMT
> Actually, I meant the other way around. I'm trying the RIGHT first
> becuase it makes the noise when I turn LEFT.

No dice...but it was a piece of cake to do the job and the assembly was
only $80. Maybe I'll do the other one next weekend just to see, or
maybe use the bearing I took off the right side.

I did notice when I took the wheel off a very slight cupping of the
tire. So slight that I'm not even sure it was cupping. The tire was a
bit low a couple weeks ago so maybe that's it.

Anyhow, that's the update.

-corky
maxpower - 09 Apr 2005 11:42 GMT
> > > OK, I'm really confused. I get the noise when turning left, so the
> > > wheel bearing I need to replace is the left one? Please answer
[quoted text clipped - 28 lines]
>
> -Corky
Hmm great teacher
Joe - 08 Apr 2005 03:23 GMT
It's a wheel bearing. I agree with you that it's on the right, but I'm sure
I could be wrong. They can be kind of hard to isolate by sound.

> When I turn to the left, there is a humming kind of vibration, similar
> to what you would feel when you drive over those vibration strips on
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> Any help is appreciated.
> -Corky
jdoe - 08 Apr 2005 12:26 GMT
Check your tires to see if there is any "cupping". Barring that a bad
bearing.
Larry
> When I turn to the left, there is a humming kind of vibration, similar
> to what you would feel when you drive over those vibration strips on
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> Any help is appreciated.
> -Corky
Corky - 08 Apr 2005 20:27 GMT
Thanks guys.

I meant that the noise only happens when I turn to the left, NOT when I
turn to the right. Unless one of you guys wants to pay me off to say I
meant the other way around. ;)

I guess I'm doing the right wheel bearing this weekend...

-corky

> Check your tires to see if there is any "cupping". Barring that a bad

> bearing.
> Larry
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> > Any help is appreciated.
> > -Corky
 
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