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Car Forum / Chrysler Cars / May 2005

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Lane change feature on the 05.

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Bob Hewitt - 28 May 2005 16:25 GMT
Before purchasing our new 05 Chrysler 300 AWD Touring Vehicle, we test
drove the Pacifica.  One feature in the Pacifica that I liked was the
automatic lane change feature of the turn signals.  You just touch the
leaver for an instant and the signal continued to blink three times
before shutting off.  Is there a possibility that this feature could be
added to our new 300 AWD vehicle?  Is this a complicated installation or
just add a special relay?   Bob  Hewitt
Daniel J. Stern - 28 May 2005 20:34 GMT
> Before purchasing our new 05 Chrysler 300 AWD Touring Vehicle, we test
> drove the Pacifica.  One feature in the Pacifica that I liked was the
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> added to our new 300 AWD vehicle?  Is this a complicated installation or
> just add a special relay?

Some say humanity will kill ourselves off with nuclear war. Others say
we'll bring about our demise through overpopulation, depletion of
resources and/or pollution. It's clear from posts like the above that none
of these predictions is correct; we'll simply become too lazy to breathe
and eat.
CopperTop - 28 May 2005 21:12 GMT
And others may just moan and groan and complain themselves into extinction.

(is this my reincarnated mother in here going by an alias?)

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>> Before purchasing our new 05 Chrysler 300 AWD Touring Vehicle, we test
>> drove the Pacifica.  One feature in the Pacifica that I liked was the
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> of these predictions is correct; we'll simply become too lazy to breathe
> and eat.
Steve - 31 May 2005 21:13 GMT
>>Before purchasing our new 05 Chrysler 300 AWD Touring Vehicle, we test
>>drove the Pacifica.  One feature in the Pacifica that I liked was the
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> of these predictions is correct; we'll simply become too lazy to breathe
> and eat.

Amen, brother Stern. Amen.
L Sternn - 28 May 2005 21:24 GMT
>Before purchasing our new 05 Chrysler 300 AWD Touring Vehicle, we test
>drove the Pacifica.  One feature in the Pacifica that I liked was the
>automatic lane change feature of the turn signals.  You just touch the
>leaver for an instant and the signal continued to blink three times
>before shutting off.

Yeah, that's a great idea, isn't it?

You're probably incapable of remembering, but you're supposed to give
a little more notice of your intent to change lanes than 3 blinks of
your signal.

I suppose I should be overcome with gratitude that you signal at all
though.

> Is there a possibility that this feature could be
>added to our new 300 AWD vehicle?  Is this a complicated installation or
>just add a special relay?   Bob  Hewitt
MoPar Man - 28 May 2005 21:47 GMT
> ... you're supposed to give a little more notice of your
> intent to change lanes than 3 blinks of your signal.

What - 3 blinks isin't enough?

What do you want - 5 minutes of blinking?  It that how long it takes
for someone to process visual information like that?
L Sternn - 29 May 2005 00:33 GMT
>> ... you're supposed to give a little more notice of your
>> intent to change lanes than 3 blinks of your signal.
>
>What - 3 blinks isin't enough?
>
>What do you want - 5 minutes of blinking?  

Did I say that???

>It that how long it takes
>for someone to process visual information like that?

Think before you speak and look AND SIGNAL before you change lanes.

3 blinks are not sufficient.
Bob Hewitt - 29 May 2005 01:14 GMT
I am sorry,  I guess I asked the wrong group!!!
Bob Hewitt
Daniel J. Stern - 29 May 2005 02:18 GMT
> I am sorry,  I guess I asked the wrong group!!!

Yep, you are.

Sorry, I mean.
Regina Proulx - 29 May 2005 23:41 GMT
>>>... you're supposed to give a little more notice of your
>>>intent to change lanes than 3 blinks of your signal.
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>
> 3 blinks are not sufficient.

Huh?  You clear the lane before you start to signal.  (In the UK for
example, signalling before clearing the lane via the mirror fails the
driving test).  Three blinks, which might take about 5-6 seconds is
plenty adequate warning of a lane change.
L Sternn - 30 May 2005 18:32 GMT
>>>>... you're supposed to give a little more notice of your
>>>>intent to change lanes than 3 blinks of your signal.
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>
>Huh?  You clear the lane before you start to signal.

Hopefully, you're not clearing the lane by running other drivers off
the road.

Just a guess, but is that Brit-speak for making sure the lane is clear
first?

>  (In the UK for
>example, signalling before clearing the lane via the mirror fails the
>driving test).  Three blinks, which might take about 5-6 seconds is
>plenty adequate warning of a lane change.

You mean you always decide to change lanes with only 5-6 seconds
forethought?

There are cases where that's okay and even necessary to avoid
something, but if all your lane changes are that abrupt, I suspect
you're not a very safe driver.
Percival P. Cassidy - 30 May 2005 19:21 GMT
On 05/29/05 06:41 pm Regina Proulx tossed the following ingredients into
the ever-growing pot of cybersoup:

>> 3 blinks are not sufficient.

> Huh?  You clear the lane before you start to signal.  (In the UK for
> example, signalling before clearing the lane via the mirror fails the
> driving test).  Three blinks, which might take about 5-6 seconds is
> plenty adequate warning of a lane change.

Merely looking in the mirror is often not enough. What about blind
spots? Looking over one's shoulder is essential.

And what happens if you get stuck in a lane where you don't want to be
(e.g., from which you can't reach the exit)? You can't signal as a
"Please, please drop back so I can move over" message?

Perce
Steve - 29 May 2005 06:32 GMT
While we are on the topic why does the new 300 turn off the daytime light on
the side you signal with?  It doesn't look right.

Steve

> Before purchasing our new 05 Chrysler 300 AWD Touring Vehicle, we test
> drove the Pacifica.  One feature in the Pacifica that I liked was the
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> added to our new 300 AWD vehicle?  Is this a complicated installation or
> just add a special relay?   Bob  Hewitt
MoPar Man - 29 May 2005 15:19 GMT
> While we are on the topic why does the new 300 turn off the
> daytime light on the side you signal with?  It doesn't look
> right.

Maybe to give the turn signal some visual contrast?
Steve - 31 May 2005 21:14 GMT
>>While we are on the topic why does the new 300 turn off the
>>daytime light on the side you signal with?  It doesn't look
>>right.
>
> Maybe to give the turn signal some visual contrast?

Exactly. Another reason that high-beam DRL's are STOOPID.
Daniel J. Stern - 29 May 2005 15:49 GMT
> While we are on the topic why does the new 300 turn off the daytime
> light on the side you signal with?  It doesn't look right

This is because DC chose the least-effective, highest-glare DRL
implementation for their current models: they reduce voltage to the high
beam headlamps. The straight-ahead glare is so high it would interfere
with other drivers' ability to see the turn signal, but if they reduced
the straight-ahead intensity any, the horizontal angles of visibility of
the DRLs would be even narrower than it already is and they wouldn't
comply with the law. The only way to comply with the law with crummy DRLs
like this is to turn one off when that side's turn signal is on.

They should've used separate dedicated DRLs or, since they're famously
averse to doing lighting correctly, turn signal DRLs.
Bob Hewitt - 29 May 2005 17:07 GMT
Steve,  I just checked our 300 and it does not do what you say.  Must be
assembled for US only where we do not have that restriction.   Bob
Daniel J. Stern - 29 May 2005 17:33 GMT
> Steve,  I just checked our 300 and it does not do what you say.  Must be
> assembled for US only where we do not have that restriction.

The US DRL law is the same as the Canadian one, except that in the US DRLs
aren't required. 300s don't come with DRLs enabled in the US unless
they're specially ordered that way. If they are specially ordered that
way, they behave as Steve described.
Dori A Schmetterling - 29 May 2005 12:50 GMT
Had a similar feature on a hired car the other week.

Didn't like it one bit (maybe because I wasn't used to it).

That doesn't answer your question, in keeping with all the other posts so
far...

:-)
DAS

For direct contact replace nospam with schmetterling
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> Before purchasing our new 05 Chrysler 300 AWD Touring Vehicle, we test
> drove the Pacifica.  One feature in the Pacifica that I liked was the
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> added to our new 300 AWD vehicle?  Is this a complicated installation or
> just add a special relay?   Bob  Hewitt
Bob Hewitt - 31 May 2005 01:33 GMT
Can anyone answer the question??

Is there a possibility that this feature could be added to our new 300
AWD vehicle? Is this a complicated installation or just add a special
relay?   Bob
Daniel J. Stern - 31 May 2005 02:07 GMT
> Can anyone answer the question??

Post it a fourth time! Post it again!
mic canic - 31 May 2005 03:21 GMT
it can be done real easy and no relay when the wiper rotation fliud is due
for a change

> Can anyone answer the question??
>
> Is there a possibility that this feature could be added to our new 300
> AWD vehicle? Is this a complicated installation or just add a special
> relay?   Bob
L Sternn - 31 May 2005 05:53 GMT
>Can anyone answer the question??
>
>Is there a possibility that this feature could be added to our new 300
>AWD vehicle? Is this a complicated installation or just add a special
>relay?   Bob

It's a rather simple "install" process, however, it must be done
everytime you use your turn signal and don't turn hard enough for it
to automatically turn off.

Additionally, some models will turn themselves off after they've been
on too long.   Of course, sometimes you need it on a long time.

Imagine a freeway with 2 lanes merging into 3 to end up with 5 and an
exit ramp on the right and a right turn to be made at the end of the
exit ramp.

It was  the only situation where my Chrysler would decide I'd had my
blinker on long enough even though I hadn't.
 
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