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How to bypass seat belt alarm in 05 Town & Country?

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Father of the Year - 17 Jun 2005 19:48 GMT
Does anybody know how to do this???
TNKEV - 17 Jun 2005 20:52 GMT
> Does anybody know how to do this???

WEAR YOUR SEATBELT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
TNKEV - 17 Jun 2005 22:09 GMT
> > Does anybody know how to do this???
> >
> WEAR YOUR SEATBELT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Seriuosly though I think if you take it to the dealer they can access the
body controller and may be able to turn off the warning bell,but don't hold
me to that they will have to look at the info in the body controller to see
if it is possible.
Daniel J. Stern - 18 Jun 2005 01:23 GMT
> Seriuosly though I think if you take it to the dealer they can access
> the body controller and may be able to turn off the warning bell

Oh, sure, sure. "Hello, Mr. Dealer. I know you're a regulated party under
the National Highway Traffic Safety Act of 1966, and as such you're
Federally prohibited from deactivating any item of mandatory safety
equipment, but will you pretty-please-with-sugar-on-top deactivate my
seatbelt chime? Thaaaaaaaaanks..."
Ted Mittelstaedt - 18 Jun 2005 10:08 GMT
> > Does anybody know how to do this???
> >
> WEAR YOUR SEATBELT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Maybe he's too fat for the seatbelt?

Ted
Alex Rodriguez - 21 Jun 2005 22:01 GMT
>Maybe he's too fat for the seatbelt?

Then he can get a seatbelt extender.
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Alex
Daniel J. Stern - 17 Jun 2005 23:05 GMT
> Does anybody know how to do this???

Very easy way to turn off the seat belt alarm: Fasten your seatbelt.
Father of the Year - 18 Jun 2005 13:22 GMT
I don't want to wear my seatbelt and I do not want the government to tell me
to wear a seat belt.
Do you have helmet laws for motorcycles in your state?  No helmets in Pa and
no seat belts on motorcycles?
So why if I am in a 4 wheel tank with airbags do I have to do something that
the govt. does not require of 2 wheeled death machines?  And why are you so
simple as to support them blindly.   People die with seat belts on and
without.  If you are going to die, you are going to die.  And you can tell
that to impotent small dicked Ted.

> > Does anybody know how to do this???
>
> Very easy way to turn off the seat belt alarm: Fasten your seatbelt.
Daniel J. Stern - 18 Jun 2005 15:34 GMT
> I don't want to wear my seatbelt and I do not want the government to
> tell me to wear a seat belt.

You can't always get what you want.

> So why if I am in a 4 wheel tank with airbags do I have to And why are
> you so simple as to support them blindly.

"Blindly"? Er...no. I'm in a position to see the data collected on what
happens to belted vs. unbelted vehicle occupants in collisions. Mostly,
the unbelted ones die. Mostly, the belted ones don't.

If that were as far as it went, I'd be very happy for you to stupidly
eject yourself from the gene pool. Problem is, your failure to wear
seatbelts affects me. And no, I'm not talking about insurance costs.

Unbelted drivers are easily knocked out of control position and/or knocked
unconscious by relatively minor incidents. When that happens, they're
unable to control the car and prevent additional, more substantial
subsequent incidents -- like hitting other cars, pedestrians or cyclists.

Belted drivers, on the other hand, overwhelmingly tend to remain conscious
and in control position even after initial collisions, so they can keep
control of the car and prevent subsequent incidents (or at least minimize
their severity and consequences).

What's more, belt non-using idjits like you are the reason those of us
smart enough to protect ourselves have to have subpar airbags in our
vehicles. Thanks a lot, a.shole.
Father of the Year - 19 Jun 2005 03:20 GMT
"You can't always get what you want."
Yes I can! You can choose to follow your government blindly. I disabled my
seatbelt alarm!!!!!!!
How about the foolish helmet law for kids under 12 on bicycles????? And 13
year olds are OK?

"I'm in a position to see the data collected on what happens to belted vs.
unbelted vehicle occupants in collisions. Mostly, the unbelted ones die.
Mostly, the belted ones don't."
Data is manipulated to produce what the collecter wants YOU to believe. Do
you see the data from ALL accidents? Did you ever ride down the road with
your hand out the window?  Maybe that should be illegal ; I am in a position
to see people who lost their arms and or the use of their arms...lets make a
law to protect people from losing their arms, everyone must ride with their
widows up!!!!
Let's talk about ruptured spleens, livers, and bleeding to death due to seat
belt trauma.  Or pneumothorax as a result of fractured ribs from seat
belts!!!

"If that were as far as it went, I'd be very happy for you to stupidly eject
yourself from the gene pool. Problem is, your failure to wear seatbelts
affects me."
Do you wear a condom if you have sex, jump on a trampoline, ride a Harley,
ride a Harley without a helmet, drive in the snow, hang glide, sky dive?
All of these things could negatively impact me too.  Let's pass a law.

"Unbelted drivers are easily knocked out of control position and/or knocked
unconscious by relatively minor incidents. When that happens, they're unable
to control the car and prevent additional, more substantial subsequent
incidents -- like hitting other cars, pedestrians or cyclists."
Isn't that really what the airbag does?

"What's more, belt non-using idjits like you are the reason those of us
smart enough to protect ourselves have to have subpar airbags in our
vehicles. Thanks a lot, a.shole."
Now that we have seat belt laws, perhaps they will take airbags out?  umm
didn't think so.
Ted Mittelstaedt - 19 Jun 2005 09:49 GMT
> "You can't always get what you want."
> Yes I can! You can choose to follow your government blindly. I disabled my
> seatbelt alarm!!!!!!!

And are you going to reconnect it if you ever sell the vehicle?  And in any
case
even if you don't wear your seat belt and disable the alarm, if it's illegal
to not wear
seat belts then your just subject to getting a ticket.

We had one woman here in Oregon that got ticketed 3 times in a row for not
wearing a seat belt, on the same day, on the same street if you can believe
it.
As I recall it was 39th ave, she got ticketed on one end of it, drove about
10 blocks
got ticketed again, drove a whopping TWO blocks, got ticketed a third time.

> How about the foolish helmet law for kids under 12 on bicycles????? And 13
> year olds are OK?

Don't know about that one, here in this state all children under 18 are
required
to wear bicycle helmets.

Sounds like a political compromise of some kind in your state.  Bicycle
helmet
laws and motorcycle helmet laws aren't uniform across the country.

>  "I'm in a position to see the data collected on what happens to belted vs.
> unbelted vehicle occupants in collisions. Mostly, the unbelted ones die.
> Mostly, the belted ones don't."
> Data is manipulated to produce what the collecter wants YOU to believe.

For crash data of this sort, what possible reason is there to manipulate it?
The biggest consumers of crash data in the US are the auto insurance
companies.
What THEIR primary motivation is, is to see fatalities in crashes reduced,
and
the number of crashes reduced - the more this happens the more money they
make.  I suppose you object to them making money so you want more crashes
I guess.  They have no interest whatsoever in manipulating seat belt data to
artifically inflate the number of lives saved by wearing a seat belt.

You probably think bleeding-heart liberals pushed through all the seat belt
laws.  Well if seat belts actually increased fatalities, the insurance
companies -
who have more money than the Pope - would have snuffed that effort out in
a second.

It was the insurance company money that kept the national 55Mph speed
limit in effect for a generation and the only reason that finally got
overturned
was that just about every last driver in the country hated the double-nickel
speed limit with a passion and kept screaming about it.  And yet, with every
driver in the country screaming
regularly at their congressional representative to kill 55Mph, it took over
20
years before the insurance companies finally allowed Congress to get rid
of it.  And the only reason they relented is because vehicles were getting
so much safer, with mandatory belt laws and air bags, crumple zones and
such, that the percentage of fatalities attributed soly to exceeding 55Mph
had finally got so small as to be basically unmeasurable.

To presume that seat belt crash data has somehow been manipulated to
show seat belts save lives when they really don't, is one of the most
politically naieve things to say in the automotive field.  Whatever
credibility
you might have you just flushed down the crapper.  The insurance companies
would fight any effort to skew crash data with tooth and nail.  Those greedy
sons of bitches only care about money, and will stop at nothing to get
absolutely accurate data as to what can be done to make themselves more
money.

> Let's talk about ruptured spleens, livers, and bleeding to death due to seat
> belt trauma.  Or pneumothorax as a result of fractured ribs from seat
> belts!!!

If that is your primary reason for not wearing a seat belt then you can
fix that problem very quickly - remove your seat belt and install a 5 point
harness.  You can buy one from any race shop.

However you don't do that simply because this ruptured spleen bullcrap
is something that you use to lie to yourself so you can try to feel better
about being an idiot.  The real truth is that you have no interest in
wearing
a seat belt that would be safer and would NOT have a chance of
breaking a rib or rupturing a spleen or liver - such as a 5 point belt -
the real truth is that your just a buffoon that doesen't want to wear a
belt for whatever idiotic and pointless reason and will manufacture
a bunch of bullcrap to try to defend it to yourself and whatever other
idiots out there will listen to you.

> "If that were as far as it went, I'd be very happy for you to stupidly eject
> yourself from the gene pool. Problem is, your failure to wear seatbelts
> affects me."
> Do you wear a condom if you have sex, jump on a trampoline, ride a Harley,
> ride a Harley without a helmet, drive in the snow, hang glide, sky dive?
> All of these things could negatively impact me too.  Let's pass a law.

Those other activities don't involve you driving around on a public road.

You see, Foaty, the one thing you continue to fail to grasp is that the
public
roads are jointly owned by everyone.  Therefore, my opinion of what you
should be permitted to do on the public road has as much weight as your
opinion.  And a bunch of other people's opinions also have as much weight
as you and my opinion.  And it so happens that the majority of people who
own that there road your driving on, believe that you and I should both be
wearing a seat belt.  Thus, through their elected representatives, the
majority
of them have decided that your going to wear a belt.

If you don't like it then you can work through the same political process
that was used to pass the seat belt laws, and get enough other idiots out
there like yourself all lit up, and get that seat belt law overturned.

The same issue applies with motorcycle helmet use.  However, the one
difference is that generally motorcycle riders that have accidents, whether
in helmet or out of helmet, don't cause the other driver to die.  A bike,
after all, does not have the mass of a car.

> "Unbelted drivers are easily knocked out of control position and/or knocked
> unconscious by relatively minor incidents. When that happens, they're unable
> to control the car and prevent additional, more substantial subsequent
> incidents -- like hitting other cars, pedestrians or cyclists."
> Isn't that really what the airbag does?

Absolutely correct.  If in the event you are not wearing a seat belt then
you
will be knocked around by an air bag.  Of course, the impact forces that
trigger an air bag are high enough that if there was no air bag and you
didn't
have a seat belt on, you would still be knocked around.  As such, an air
bag that triggers isn't any worse from a knocking about control standpoint
than driving without a belt on.

> "What's more, belt non-using idjits like you are the reason those of us
> smart enough to protect ourselves have to have subpar airbags in our
> vehicles. Thanks a lot, a.shole."
> Now that we have seat belt laws, perhaps they will take airbags out?  umm
> didn't think so.

Actually this isn't necessary because all that is needed to do is program
the
air bag computer to not fire the air bag if the seat occupant is wearing a
seat belt.  I know such systems are in testing and development, and I
believe
may already be in some new cars.

Ted
Father of the Year - 19 Jun 2005 17:58 GMT
"Foaty"  lol wtf is that?

How can anyone argue with you Ted?  I just want the right to choose like
your Momma, when for some stupid reason , she chose not to abort your
argumentative a.s.  Or maybe she did and you are what remains.
Perhaps  you can use your vast knowledge, persuasiveness, and people skills
to work through the same political process that was used to pass the seat
belt laws and get seat belts in school busses.

Do you wear a condom if you have sex, jump on a trampoline, ride a Harley,
ride a Harley without a helmet, drive in the snow, hang glide, sky dive?
All of these things could negatively impact me too.  Let's pass a law.

All of those activities do affect you and I.  I don't have the time nor the
desire to educate you on how.  My only wish is to know what Foaty means
before I bang my head off the windshield and do my Terri Shiavo
impersonation.

> > "You can't always get what you want."
> > Yes I can! You can choose to follow your government blindly. I disabled my
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>
> Ted
Father of the Year - 20 Jun 2005 01:56 GMT
"Foaty"  lol wtf is that?

How can anyone argue with you Ted?  I just want the right to choose like
your Momma, when for some stupid reason , she chose not to abort your
argumentative a.s.  Or maybe she did and you are what remains.
Perhaps  you can use your vast knowledge, persuasiveness, and people skills
to work through the same political process that was used to pass the seat
belt laws and get seat belts in school busses.

Do you wear a condom if you have sex, jump on a trampoline, ride a Harley,
ride a Harley without a helmet, drive in the snow, hang glide, sky dive?
All of these things could negatively impact me too.  Let's pass a law.

All of those activities DO affect you and I.  I don't have the time nor the
desire to educate you on how.  My only wish is to know what Foaty means
before I bang my head off the windshield and do my Terri Schiavo
impersonation.

> > "You can't always get what you want."
> > Yes I can! You can choose to follow your government blindly. I disabled my
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>
> Ted

> > "You can't always get what you want."
> > Yes I can! You can choose to follow your government blindly. I disabled my
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>
> Ted
David - 20 Jun 2005 13:10 GMT
> "Foaty"  lol wtf is that?
>
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> before I bang my head off the windshield and do my Terri Schiavo
> impersonation.

And you also allowed your childeren not to wear there seatbelt, or sit in a
carseat while you drive.

Yes, you are brilliant!
Father of the Year - 20 Jun 2005 21:59 GMT
They wear their seatbelt.  Thank you for your concern DAVE.

Do you have children? Do you drive the speedlimit? Do you talk on your
cellphone while driving? Dave, do you put on makeup while driving? Are you
overweight? Are you underweight?  Do you smoke? Do you smoke in the car with
children? Do you choose to overeat or does the government tell you what you
can eat or weigh.  Do you chose to wear a condom or do you do what the govt.
recommends?  Do you give your children cancer, asthma, stunt their growth
etc. by smoking in their presence?  Are you that perfect DAVE?  Would you
like to debate me on being a man, a father, an intelligent productive human
being?
Gees,  I choose not to wear my seatbelt, and I don't want to listen to the
damn ding, and YOU people condemn me?????? I thought this was
rec.autos.maker.chrysler not  rec. miserable.f.cking.knowitall.bashers

Let he who is without sin cast the first stone TED, DAVE, DAN.

Do you give your children cancer, asthma, stunt their growth etc. by smoking
in their presence, but your seatbelt is on right?
By the way, the reason y'all can't get it up isn't cause your wife/sister is
so ugly but because you smoke!  Look up those statistics TED
So how many packs a day do you smoke boys?  How much tax do you pay per
pack???????Maybe you ought to go through the same political process as the
seatbelters did to remove the tax, or perhaps the VOTERS? know best??? Yep
the voters enacted that tax just like the seatbelt law, right ted!

> > "Foaty"  lol wtf is that?
> >
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>
> Yes, you are brilliant!
Count Floyd - 21 Jun 2005 05:07 GMT
> They wear their seatbelt.  Thank you for your concern DAVE.
>
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>>
>>Yes, you are brilliant!

I don't wear seatbelts in my 1940 Royal Coupe!  I have been waiting for
the cops here in FL to stop me and then explain to them it is a restored
antique in original form.
High Sierra - 21 Jun 2005 15:12 GMT
Maybe this was covered in another part of this post, but why do you chose to not
wear your belt?

Just curious.

> snip

> Gees,  I choose not to wear my seatbelt, and I don't want to listen to the
> damn ding, and YOU people condemn me?????? I thought this was
> rec.autos.maker.chrysler not  rec. miserable.f.cking.knowitall.bashers

 >snip
David - 21 Jun 2005 19:10 GMT
> Maybe this was covered in another part of this post, but why do you chose
> to not wear your belt?
>
> Just curious.

UMM! from I get it is because the government told him he had to! So he does
not do what the government tells him. Like paying taxes etc. He thinks the
construction workers are to work for free and pave roads for free, and
companies to supply gravel and tar for free. And all that! I believe he is
what is called a domestic terrorist ( you know) the militia.

But apparently, from his posts he does not like smoking. Even though the
government doesn't want you to smoke.

He is a complex soul. He never mentioned drinking alcohol and driving
though. That is also against the law, but that is probably ok with him! He
seems like a good ol boy, stopping off at the Circle K and grabbing a few
for the road.

It seems it is ok to obey some laws and not obey others!
Dori A Schmetterling - 21 Jun 2005 19:42 GMT
But it does seem ridiculous, does it not, that in some states/cities not
even the passenger is allowed a drink in the car?  And in Ontario you can't
even carry an open bottle in the passenger compartment.

So what's the point of having a party in the back of a stretch-limo if you
can't swig champagne?

OTT (over the top), what?

DAS
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> drinking alcohol and driving though. That is also against the law,
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Father of the Year - 21 Jun 2005 21:17 GMT
I apologize to the group for not covering all of the potential sins in my
analogies.
That is what they where people, analogies........I don't drink either,
therefore while you all are dealing with a slow death from alcohol,
ciggarettes, obesity etc., AND while doing so make fun of me for not wearing
my seatbelt, I choose to go out fast behind the wheel of my  amc gremlin
MUSCLECAR.  In the meantime, you are preserving your life with a seatbelt
and killing yourself with all of these other SINS against mankind . When I
die in my Gremlin, it costs you nothing, but when you die after 10 years of
O2 TANKS, Bloodpressure medicine, Radiation therapy, SSDI PAYMENTS etc...it
costs the taxpayers hundreds of thousands of dollars.that is the real
domestic terrorist the person who abuses his body with ciggs, mcdonalds,
promiscuity etc,....so  You want to throw rocks at me again....put your
ciggarette down first viagra boy.

My point was that I choose not to wear my seatbelt because:
1.  I am in the healthcare industry and I see direct results of accidents,
seat belts and no seat belts.  motorcycles with and without helmets,
supersized mcdonalds victims, Marlboro victims, quad victims, it goes on and
on....choose your method of suicide.
#2.  I happen to have "living" ejected family members who would otherwise be
dead if they would have worn their seatbelts prior to Ralph Nader's crusade.
#3.  My girlfriend can't give me head while I am driving if she is wearing
her seatbelt.
#4.  You are right, my little piece of civil disobedience.....I don't want
to!  Somehow one of the retards translates that into SOCIALISM?  comments
DAVE?

> > Maybe this was covered in another part of this post, but why do you chose
> > to not wear your belt?
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>
> It seems it is ok to obey some laws and not obey others!
David - 21 Jun 2005 23:42 GMT
>I apologize to the group for not covering all of the potential sins in my
> analogies.
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> to!  Somehow one of the retards translates that into SOCIALISM?  comments
> DAVE?

If you are in the healthcare industry, then I demand to know your name so if
my life is in danger and I am to be treted in any manner by you I can
refuse. Why? Anyone with half a brain in the healthcare industry, including
housekeeping and the cooks at the cafeteria know!!! that wearing a seatbelt
is by far better off in an accident then one without! You Sir, are an idiot!
And a liar ( as I cannot believe you are in the healthcare industry, and
make such a stupid statement) You also believe a motorcyclist is better off
without a helmet! Therefore, you are either on the janitorial staff at the
hospital, or you are on the assembly line at the bandaid factory! But by all
means dear sir, keep up with your stupid, unproven reason. You stated your
kids wear their seatbelts. Why? If they are off-spring of yours they are far
better off  not wearing one. You lead by example and you are a great example
to your kids.

Keep up the great work.
Father of the Year - 22 Jun 2005 03:57 GMT
First and foremost, you would be lucky to be in my care.
Yes- a motorcyclist is better off without a helmet because some of the ones
that live wished they where dead and some are not able to think that
complexly.  I happen to treat a very depressed quadrapalegic with 1 leg,
colostomy, etc. who wishes very much that he "wasn't being treated by me".
I see plenty of motorcyclists that are disabled physically or mentally every
day......roadrash is cool right?? And I need to wear a seat belt.

Answer me this Dave
Do you smoke?
Do you drink alcohol?
Are you overweight?
Do you ride a Quad?
Do you have unprotected sex? (that doesn't mean without a glove)?
Do you drive fast?
Do you step on the gas when the light turns yellow?
If you answer yes to any of the above statements then shut the hell up!!!!
and there are many more risk factors we could discuss that I am sure you are
guilty of.  I hope that you lead by example too.  The only lie I have told
is about my AMC Gremlin....dont have one.  lol   but at least they didnt
have a damn dinging seatbelt alarm.

> >I apologize to the group for not covering all of the potential sins in my
> > analogies.
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>
> Keep up the great work.
David - 22 Jun 2005 15:30 GMT
> First and foremost, you would be lucky to be in my care.
> Yes- a motorcyclist is better off without a helmet because some of the
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> Answer me this Dave
> Do you smoke?

NO!
> Do you drink alcohol?

NO!
> Are you overweight?

NO!
> Do you ride a Quad?

NO!
> Do you have unprotected sex? (that doesn't mean without a glove)?

NO! Except with myself!

> Do you drive fast?

NO!
> Do you step on the gas when the light turns yellow?

NO!
> If you answer yes to any of the above statements then shut the hell up!!!!

I guess I won't shut up!
> and there are many more risk factors we could discuss that I am sure you
> are
> guilty of.  I hope that you lead by example too.  The only lie I have told
> is about my AMC Gremlin....dont have one.  lol   but at least they didnt
> have a damn dinging seatbelt alarm.

And yet you still refuse to answer any of our questions!

No wonder your wife divorced you and took the kids and ended up with you
paying through the nose!

>> >I apologize to the group for not covering all of the potential sins in
>> >my
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>> Keep up the great work.
Father of the Year - 22 Jun 2005 21:19 GMT
And yet you still refuse to answer any of our questions!
What questions???

> No wonder your wife divorced you and took the kids and ended up with you
> paying through the nose!
She divorced me because like you, she was a c.nt. She now has stolen my
children, has a doctor boyfriend,who she f.cked for the last year of my
marriage,  half of my lifetime assets and 30+ percent of my income for the
next 10 years
I pay through the nose because c.nts like you are oblivious to the
anti-family, anti-FATHER laws out there.  She has it all but she is still an
ugly c.nt......

Have a nice day Dave, and I could only hope I meet your wife one day.

> > First and foremost, you would be lucky to be in my care.
> > Yes- a motorcyclist is better off without a helmet because some of the
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> >> Keep up the great work.
TNKEV - 22 Jun 2005 23:51 GMT
> First and foremost, you would be lucky to be in my care.

Wrong,getting injured and having to go to the hospital is not lucky.

> Yes- a motorcyclist is better off without a helmet because some of the ones
> that live wished they where dead and some are not able to think that
> complexly

wrong,how about an URL for statistics where injured motorcyclists were
polled to find out if they would have rather had thier helmet on or off.not
just a couple people that you have spoken with.my mother was a nurse for 40
years and she would say you are a complete idiot.

>.  I happen to treat a very depressed quadrapalegic with 1 leg,
> colostomy, etc. who wishes very much that he "wasn't being treated by me".

understandable

> I see plenty of motorcyclists that are disabled physically or mentally every
> day......roadrash is cool right?? And I need to wear a seat belt.

if you don't wear a seat belt in your vehicle and you are thrown from the
vehicle in the event of an accident you may find out how*cool*road rash is.

> Answer me this Dave
>Do you smoke?
I do
>Do you drink alcohol?
no
>Are you overweight?
no
>Do you ride a Quad?
no
>Do you have unprotected sex? (that doesn't mean without a glove)?
EVERY DAY
>Do you drive fast?
is 70 mph fast (it is the speed limit)
> Do you step on the gas when the light turns yellow?
hell yeah how are you going to get through the light before it turns red if
you don't mat that sucka.
>If you answer yes to any of the above statements then >shut the hell
up!!!!
oh I thought this was a test.... sh.t.

>The only lie I have told
> is about my AMC Gremlin....dont have one.

liar.
Father of the Year - 23 Jun 2005 22:55 GMT
You smoke and nobody on this group chastises you?
Did you know smoking causes impotence, peripheral vascular disease, lung
cancer, emphysema, early aging, heart attack, stroke.  So....as wrong as I
am about the seatbelt, and I admit, I am wrong,STATISTICALLY, why don't you
make sure that you wear your seatbelt so that society can spend hundreds of
thousands of dollars keeping you alive combatting the effects of tobacco.
Unless of course your unprotected sex gives you HIV or HepB or HepC then
throw another hundred thousand at maintaining your life from a choice you
made. Me, they just have to pay the city employee to hose my blood off the
street......cheap.  But, it is me who is a jerk and a drain on society.

> > First and foremost, you would be lucky to be in my care.
>
[quoted text clipped - 46 lines]
>
> liar.
David - 23 Jun 2005 23:11 GMT
> You smoke and nobody on this group chastises you?
> Did you know smoking causes impotence, peripheral vascular disease, lung
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> made. Me, they just have to pay the city employee to hose my blood off the
> street......cheap.  But, it is me who is a jerk and a drain on society.

Well for startes you were the one to call people names. All evryone did was
question you as to why you wanted to break the law, and isconnected a
mandatory safety item, of which you would fail to notify any owner of your
trade in and the safety device you disconnected. And you called everyone
a.sholes, and a few more names. yet nobody called you names.  You get, what
you sow retard.Your a documented  liar and a venoumous snake. You have a
chip on your shoulder because your wife left you for somenone else and took
the kids and you have to pay for it. And of course you did not do a single
thing wrong in your relationship. YOu probably were not at all verbally
abusive to your wife and kids, yet you are only that way in the newsgroups.
Right!! See these are not names. Just obvious observations. Know you can go
on calling everyone names and blaming everything else on everyone!
Father of the Year - 24 Jun 2005 04:43 GMT
No Sir,
I did not start the ignorance or the name calling.
I only responded to it.  I didn't come here to fight.  I have a nasty ugly
xwife if i wanna fight.

> > You smoke and nobody on this group chastises you?
> > Did you know smoking causes impotence, peripheral vascular disease, lung
[quoted text clipped - 21 lines]
> Right!! See these are not names. Just obvious observations. Know you can go
> on calling everyone names and blaming everything else on everyone!
Father of the Year - 24 Jun 2005 05:04 GMT
I just read the rest of your post.  You are out of touch with reality.

1.     Ted started the name calling 6/18/05 "Maybe he's too fat for the
seatbelt?"

Ted
TED fired the first shot and i answered back to HIM.

2. Followed by dan who called me an "idjut" and an "a.shole" the morning of
6/18 Prior to that I had not called Dan any names

3.  I asked how to bypass an alarm not how to disable a seat belt.  And I
never said that I would not tell the new owner and also it is a very simple
function to turn back on.......the seatbelt still works it just doesnt DING.

4. I didnt call everyone a.sholes,  i responded to each person who called me
names.  You reap what you sow is absolutely correct.....we agree there.

4.  I am a documented liar.  LOL  Please tell me where it is documented.
Not only is it not documented it hasn't even been proven that I am a liar.
What type of medication are you on?

5.  You are right, I can be a venomous snake but only after being attacked.

6.  You are right again, I do have a chip on my shoulder. But not to a bunch
of guys on a chrysler website who I came to for help.  My chip on my
shoulder is with the child custody laws, my x wife, and lawyers.  I did not
abuse my wife, I f.cked her good every nite,  she always came first.  I had
a great family but she was a whore who went for more money and the
government promoted the breakup of my marriage by making the laws to benefit
her.  IT CAN HAPPEN TO YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!IN A BLINK OF AN EYE BUD.

I took the time to look at the posts before answering your questions.  Look
at them for your self and see who called names. or perhaps people who are
not chrysler automotive technicians are supposed to put up with Ted and Dan
and Alex's verbal abuse and sarcasm cause they are so much better then us
lowlifes and we need them to answer our questions.  I am not the only one
they are smart a.ses to, I researched their posts.  It is obvious they have
attitude problems with all posters.  It makes them feel better about
themselves to put someone down.....Psychology 101.

> > You smoke and nobody on this group chastises you?
> > Did you know smoking causes impotence, peripheral vascular disease, lung
[quoted text clipped - 21 lines]
> Right!! See these are not names. Just obvious observations. Know you can go
> on calling everyone names and blaming everything else on everyone!
Ted Mittelstaedt - 27 Jun 2005 11:13 GMT
> I just read the rest of your post.  You are out of touch with reality.
>
> 1.     Ted started the name calling 6/18/05 "Maybe he's too fat for the
> seatbelt?"

That wasn't name calling, that was a perfectly logical guess as to why
you wern't wearing your seat belt.

> Ted
> TED fired the first shot and i answered back to HIM.

And went downhill from there...

> 4. I didnt call everyone a.sholes,  i responded to each person who called me
> names.  You reap what you sow is absolutely correct.....we agree there.

Foaty, I will answer one of your desires.  Foaty = F.O.T.Y.  Father Of The
Year,
get it now Foaty?

> 5.  You are right, I can be a venomous snake but only after being attacked.

If that's all you can come up with I'd hardly call you venomous.  I've been
flamed
by much better flamers than you will ever be.

> 6.  You are right again, I do have a chip on my shoulder. But not to a bunch
> of guys on a chrysler website who I came to for help.  My chip on my
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> government promoted the breakup of my marriage by making the laws to benefit
> her.  IT CAN HAPPEN TO YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!IN A BLINK OF AN EYE BUD.

I didn't drag all that bullcrap in.  You did.  What I think is rediculous
is -
why I can hardly choose among all the things.  There's your antigovernment
bais even though the government is who built all those roads your driving
around on and not wearing your seatbelt on.  There's your silly equating
of motorcycles and cars as if the safety gear on both should be the same.
There's your impossible insistence that a person has equal chances of
dying belted as unbelted.  There's your childish method of rebellion against
your government though the method of not wearing your seat belt.
(that's rebellion?) There's your assumption that everyone on this group
smokes, f.cks anything with a c.nt that moves, stuffs their face at
Micky Dees for every meal, and drives with the accellerator flat on the
floor every time they get in a car.  There's your continued
insistence that if you don't wear a seatbelt and you get into
an accident that it's just going to affect you if you get pasted.  There's
your paranoid assumption that insurance companies are manipulating
seat belt data.  There's your inane assumption that my sexual
practices with my wife are somehow going to affect you.  There's
your illogical view that just because you work with a Quad that
got hurt in a motorcycle accident that everyone hurt in motorcycle
accidents is a Quad who wants to die.  Why, Foaty, I can't even
choose what is most rediculous of your blather.

It's already been explained to you several times that without a seat belt
you could lose control of your car and make an accident worse for someone
else.

It's already been explained to you that this ruptured spleen bullcrap is
pure bullcrap since better seat belts exist (5 point) that don't have this
problem.

It's already been explained to you several times that an airbag without
a belt is not good

It's already been explained to you how it is completely
illogical to argue that data proving seat belts save lives is skewed.

All these things you ignored - because they don't match your fantasy
of how the world works.

And, finally, continuting to make analogies with motorcycles is espically
rediculous.  Bikes are not cars!

> I took the time to look at the posts before answering your questions.  Look
> at them for your self and see who called names. or perhaps people who are
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> attitude problems with all posters.  It makes them feel better about
> themselves to put someone down.....Psychology 101.

I've said it before and I'll say it again since you don't seem to understand
it,
I put down posts that are flat out wrong, flat out illogical, and flat out
dangerous.
Frankly I hardly give a crap about your exwife and kids - although I think
it
would be really a sad thing for your kids if you got yourself killed because
you wern't wearing a belt - but I do give a crap about all the misleading
stuff your spouting.

I know that you are a lost cause Foaty.  Your going to not wear your seat
belt because your fantasies of how the world works are more important than
actually how it works.  But I am going to still stamp on your posts because
I know that if I and Dan and Alex and everyone else don't do it, that
somebody
out there is going to read your posts, assume that nobody has a problem with
it,
then figure it's OK to not wear a belt.  Then they are going to get pasted
in an accident.  If the rest of us sit on you then we may be saving that
person's
life because they will ready your responses and our responses and realize
what an idiot you are on this topic and that you don't know what your
talking about.

Ted
tim bur - 30 Jun 2005 01:23 GMT
hmmm .ted actually you and i with our tax money subsidized the auto industry by
having roads built

> > I just read the rest of your post.  You are out of touch with reality.
> >
[quoted text clipped - 116 lines]
>
> Ted
TNKEV - 24 Jun 2005 14:50 GMT
> You smoke and nobody on this group chastises you?

They can chastise me all they like,I like the people here,I have been
around grumpy old technicians for a long time,even though what they
say can be blunt,to the point and sometimes a little callus they are
all good people.

> Did you know smoking causes impotence, peripheral vascular disease, lung
> cancer, emphysema, early aging, heart attack, stroke.  So....as wrong as I
> am about the seatbelt, and I admit, I am wrong,STATISTICALLY, why don't you
> make sure that you wear your seatbelt so that society can spend hundreds of
> thousands of dollars keeping you alive combatting the effects of tobacco.

if a doctor were to tell me I was going to die from smoking I would
drive my truck into a tree and I wouldn't be a burden to
anyone.besides that you don't know me I could be a multi millioniare
for all you know.

> Unless of course your unprotected sex gives you HIV or HepB or HepC then
> throw another hundred thousand at maintaining your life from a choice you
> made.

the unprotected sex I have is with my wife whom I have been with for
12 years and we love each other very much,still honey mooning at my
house.sorry about your problems but some people know how to find a
good woman and keep her and some people don't.

why did you come here anyway?
did you call your dealer to see if they would turn off your seat belt
chime?

I bet you did and for some ungodly reason they were mean to you.
Father of the Year - 24 Jun 2005 23:38 GMT
Believe what you want.....Since you are all statistics majors....what
percentage of women claim to have extra-marital affairs.   Just a little
FYI, the fact that YOU may be monogamous does not mean that your wife is.
Maybe you ought to consider the rubber.  Look directly in her eyes when you
ask her if she ever had an affair.  If her eyes wander in either direction
even for a split second.....she did.  I am sure after a few more years of
smoking and your pudendal arteries calcify and atrophy, your wife will stay
with you cause you can still lick her plus you treat her good right??
If they told you you had cancer you would spend every last cent and have
every last test and procedure trying to stay alive.  I see it every day.
Emphysema, PVD, impotence just screws the quality of your life as it spirals
down.  It takes years to bury you
I came here for advice on how to turn off my seat belt alarm.  Tim was nice
enough to respond without attacking me.
I didn't call the Chrysler garage.  I thought it would be easier to come
here.
I like it here too  lol
Just an aside, many of you here have assumed my kids ride without belts
calling me names etc. They don't.. adyway If you smoke in the same room as
or in a car with your kids, YOU are guilty of child abuse.  In a divorce
situation, that would be used for you to lose custody.

> > You smoke and nobody on this group chastises you?
>
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>
> I bet you did and for some ungodly reason they were mean to you.
TNKEV - 25 Jun 2005 16:40 GMT
> Believe what you want.....Since you are all statistics majors....what
> percentage of women claim to have extra-marital affairs.   Just a little
> FYI, the fact that YOU may be monogamous does not mean that your wife is.

Just a little FYI,like I said you don't know me and you certainly
don't know my wife either, just because your wife wasn't satisfied
with the dick she was getting from you doesn't mean mine isn't
satisfied.its not all about sex anyway, you obviously have many issues
besides not being able to provide adequate sex for you now exwife.

> Maybe you ought to consider the rubber.  Look directly in her eyes when you
> ask her if she ever had an affair.  If her eyes wander in either direction
> even for a split second.....she did.

maybe you ought to consider a rubber room.

>  I am sure after a few more years of
> smoking and your pudendal arteries calcify and atrophy, your wife will stay
> with you cause you can still lick her plus you treat her good right??

better than you know how.

> If they told you you had cancer you would spend every last cent and have
> every last test and procedure trying to stay alive.  I see it every day.
> Emphysema, PVD, impotence just screws the quality of your life as it spirals
> down.  It takes years to bury you

like I said you don't know me, I would not sit and suffer and cause
prolonged pain and suffering to my wife and children,much
easier,cheaper and faster to drive into a tree.

> I came here for advice on how to turn off my seat belt alarm.  Tim was nice
> enough to respond without attacking me.

theres one in every crowd,thanks Tim.you should have taken Tims advice
and left.

> I didn't call the Chrysler garage.  I thought it would be easier to come
> here.

yeah you are right spending a few days acting like an a.s is likely
much easier than a phone call to you.

<idiocy and assumtion snipped>

by the way top posting is rude.
Father of the Year - 25 Jun 2005 21:40 GMT
TNKEV
Is that some foreign language for ostrich?
Cause you got your head in the sand bud.  My wife didnt leave me for
dick...she left me for more money and if you work as a mechanic in a
chrysler garage...I make a hell of a lot more than you.  So f.ck off
ostrich.  AND if i met your wife, I bet i could f.ck her, but thats all,
wouldn't want to make your children or those presented as your children
fatherless.

Did you ask her....pretend it's a joke, make fun of me when you do,  But
look in her eyes.  I bet she did.....I wonder do your kids look like you?

> > Believe what you want.....Since you are all statistics
> majors....what
[quoted text clipped - 54 lines]
>
> by the way top posting is rude.

TNKEV
Is that some foreign language for ostrich?
Cause you got your head in the sand bud.  My wife didnt leave me for
dick...she left me for more money and if you work as a mechanic in a
chrysler garage...I make a hell of a lot more than you.  So f.ck off
ostrich.  AND if i met your wife, I bet , no, I know i could f.ck her, but
thats all, wouldn't want to make your children or those presented as your
children fatherless.
Thanks,
Learned all kinds of sh.t here.
You would hang on to every last breath..every last heartbeat...it's human
nature, I see it every single day!!!!
David - 26 Jun 2005 14:14 GMT
> TNKEV
> Is that some foreign language for ostrich?
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> Did you ask her....pretend it's a joke, make fun of me when you do,  But
> look in her eyes.  I bet she did.....I wonder do your kids look like you?

No the wife beating child molester is top and bottom posting in one thread!
Well, at least we know he does not have a job were lifes are at stake, and
he is lying otherwise. Really, is someone that stupid to top post and bottom
post? I guess so. And he still thinks the misses left him for more money!
HELLLLLLOOOOO!
She left you because you are sarcastic, mean-spirited, you hit her and the
kids, and you are emotionally unstable! nuff said (PLONK)
Father of the Year - 26 Jun 2005 23:18 GMT
David's wife is cheating on him and he is in denial.
lololol.......kinda sucks huh?
Now I am a child molester and a wife beater.  I better get to k-mart there
having a sale on wife beater tee shirts.

> > TNKEV
> > Is that some foreign language for ostrich?
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
> She left you because you are sarcastic, mean-spirited, you hit her and the
> kids, and you are emotionally unstable! nuff said (PLONK)
TNKEV - 27 Jun 2005 18:42 GMT
> TNKEV
> Is that some foreign language for ostrich?

I am from Tennessee hence TN and my name is Kevin hence KEV,I am a fan
of the Grateful Dead who had a song called Tennessee Jed,TN
Jed,TNKEV,this is not the only group I frequent.

> Cause you got your head in the sand bud.

you have no room to talk about a person having thier head in the sand.

>  My wife didnt leave me for
> dick...she left me for more money and if you work as a >mechanic in
a
> chrysler garage...I make a hell of a lot more than you.  >So f.ck
off

There aren't any mechanics working here only Technicians and I am not
a Technician.
I don't care how much money you make so f.ck off!

> ostrich.  AND if i met your wife, I bet i could f.ck her, but thats all,

you are wrong

> wouldn't want to make your children or those presented >as your
children
> fatherless.
>
> Did you ask her....pretend it's a joke, make fun of me >when you do,
But
> look in her eyes.  I bet she did.....I wonder do your >kids look
like you?

I am 6'5 blonde hair and blue eyes,my wife 5'7 brown hair and brown
eyes,my 2 girls both blonde and blue and look *exactly*like me.

I am from the south and in the south there are many sluts yes but my
wife grew up on a farm and is very much a southern belle,sweet,demure
and innocent,she is not capable of lowering herself to what you
assume.

good bye.
Father of the Year - 27 Jun 2005 21:32 GMT
Ask her Jethro, or are you afraid of the response?

> > TNKEV
> > Is that some foreign language for ostrich?
[quoted text clipped - 40 lines]
>
> good bye.
TNKEV - 27 Jun 2005 22:48 GMT
> Ask her Jethro, or are you afraid of the response?

Jethro yer too damned funny!

her response would be to break down in tears,I don't like to see her
cry,I love her and would not want to hurt her.

maybe thats why you don't have a wife is because you asked her f.cked
up questions like that.

like I said you don't know me and you don't know my wife.

now run along fucktard, I am tired of playing with you now.
Fucktard - 28 Jun 2005 04:24 GMT
I work with women. Rarely is a women faithful.

> > Ask her Jethro, or are you afraid of the response?
>
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>
> now run along fucktard, I am tired of playing with you now.
Fucktard - 28 Jun 2005 04:29 GMT
Yeah,
You don't know me either.  If you did, you wouldn't think I am such a dick.
Believe it or not, I have a lot of friends, and am a LIKEABLE guy....lol
Congratulations on having a good woman.
I have one now too.

Later Jethro
I leave you in peace........

> > Ask her Jethro, or are you afraid of the response?
>
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>
> now run along fucktard, I am tired of playing with you now.
Father of the Year - 23 Jun 2005 23:00 GMT
I don't like them.
I want to choose.
I know living people who would be dead if they where wearing one.
I have airbags

> Maybe this was covered in another part of this post, but why do you chose to not
> wear your belt?
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>  >
>   >snip
tim bur - 24 Jun 2005 03:59 GMT
i have air bags!!! is were you are dead wrong!!!! seat belts work with airbags
to save your life! b.s. u say
     well just so u know seat belts have what's called pretensoners  that also
 deploy but do so before air bag deployment and they do that so u and the seat
belts have u the proper position when then airbags deploy because if u are not
      in the proper place when the bags deploy then u will  suffer far greater
   injuries from the airbags pushing u out of the seats more an anything u can
 imagine i have personal experence with this when my wnet off the force was so
great that my hand was flung off the wheel and thu the windshield but the cuts
i had was nothing to the damage i would have had had i not had seatbelts and a
                                                                        airbag

> I don't like them.
> I want to choose.
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
> >  >
> >   >snip
Father of the Year - 24 Jun 2005 04:42 GMT
Thanks again Tim,
I saw all of that pretensioner stuff before you helped me.  I appreciate your opinion.  I have read many of your responses and you are always polite and always helpful. I am sure you are an asset to your company.  Maybe I will start wearing mine now out of respect for you or perhaps just to make sure I am around to take care of Dave, Alex and the rest of the nasties, for their lung tumors, impotence, emphysema, peripheral vascular disease, etc. But most of all, I want to be aroud when I think it was Dave "who has his children", wakes up one morning to find out he doesn't anymore.  Then he can come to me for advice on damage control.
 i have air bags!!! is were you are dead wrong!!!! seat belts work with airbags to save your life! b.s. u say
 well just so u know seat belts have what's called pretensoners  that also deploy but do so before air bag deployment and they do that so u and the seat belts have u the proper position when then airbags deploy because if u are not in the proper place when the bags deploy then u will  suffer far greater injuries from the airbags pushing u out of the seats more an anything u can imagine i have personal experence with this when my wnet off the force was so great that my hand was flung off the wheel and thu the windshield but the cuts i had was nothing to the damage i would have had had i not had seatbelts and a airbag
 Father of the Year wrote:

   I don't like them.
   I want to choose.
   I know living people who would be dead if they where wearing one.
   I have airbags
   "High Sierra" <Please.reply.to.NG.only@isp.com> wrote in message
   news:N5GdnV1m-KK6vSXfRVn-tA@rogers.com...
   > Maybe this was covered in another part of this post, but why do you chose
   to not
   > wear your belt?
   >
   > Just curious.
   >
   >
   > Father of the Year wrote:
   > > snip
   >
   > > Gees,  I choose not to wear my seatbelt, and I don't want to listen to
   the
   > > damn ding, and YOU people condemn me?????? I thought this was
   > > rec.autos.maker.chrysler not  rec. miserable.f.cking.knowitall.bashers
   > >
   >  >
   >   >snip
TNKEV - 24 Jun 2005 15:07 GMT
> I don't like them.
> I want to choose.
> I know living people who would be dead if they where wearing one.
> I have airbags
air bags don't take the place of a seat belt and as matter of fact if
aren't wearing a seat belt and your air bag deploys it won't properly
protect you.the air bag works in conjunction with the seat belt not in
place of.
High Sierra - 25 Jun 2005 15:20 GMT
>>I don't like them.
Neither do I.

>>I want to choose.
Why don't you choose to wear them?

>>I know living people who would be dead if they where wearing one.
I know living people who would be dead if they weren't wearing them.
I knew dead people who would be alive if they were wearing them.

>>I have airbags
Airbags and seat belts work together. In an accident where you weren't wearing a
seatbelt, the air bag could kill you.
Dori A Schmetterling - 21 Jun 2005 12:11 GMT
Actually that would not be a good idea.

In Europe (anywhere outside North America?) the concept is that seats and
air bags are complementary.  I believe the bags are smaller than in the US
because they are not obliged to assume that the person is unbelted.

DAS

For direct contact replace nospam with schmetterling
---

[...]
the
> air bag computer to not fire the air bag if the seat occupant is wearing a
> seat belt.  I know such systems are in testing and development, and I
> believe
> may already be in some new cars.
>
> Ted
Christian M. Mericle - 24 Jun 2005 15:32 GMT
>> I don't want to wear my seatbelt and I do not want the government to
>> tell me to wear a seat belt.
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>happens to belted vs. unbelted vehicle occupants in collisions. Mostly,
>the unbelted ones die. Mostly, the belted ones don't.

I totaled a Chevy Suburban once and walked away without a scratch or
burise. If I would NOT have been wearing my seatbelt, I would have had
to have the steering wheel extricated from my chest. I'm glad it
didn't have airbags or I likely would not have gotten off so easy.

<snip>

-- Christian

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General Schvantzkoph - 22 Jun 2005 11:15 GMT
> I don't want to wear my seatbelt and I do not want the government to tell me
> to wear a seat belt.
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>>
>> Very easy way to turn off the seat belt alarm: Fasten your seatbelt.

I've never understood why people think they have a constitutional right to
put their head through a windshield. There are a lot of rights worth
fighting for but the right to splatter your brains out isn't one of them.
Father of the Year - 23 Jun 2005 22:58 GMT
the right to smoke and die that way, the right to drink and die that way,
the right to drink and drive and kill others.....or the right to choose to
play the low odds of living through an accident because I am not wearing a
seatbelt like many people I know have done.

> > I don't want to wear my seatbelt and I do not want the government to tell me
> > to wear a seat belt.
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
> put their head through a windshield. There are a lot of rights worth
> fighting for but the right to splatter your brains out isn't one of them.
tim bur - 18 Jun 2005 01:43 GMT
you can't all u can do is turn off the dinger read the owners manual

> Does anybody know how to do this???
Father of the Year - 18 Jun 2005 13:16 GMT
Ahhh read the manual....never thought of that. The dinger is what I want to
kill. Thanks Tim, for being the only person on this newsgroup with the
ability to respond without being an arse.
BTW: I tried under the seat to jump some of the wires and it did shut off
the alarm but also the airbag light came on.
Of course, Ted,  I couldn't work on it very long because my big fat a.s
couldn't bend over under the seat.  TED,  I read somewhere that impotent men
and or men with extremely small genitals are 75% more likely to put other
people down on newsgroups....... Thanks for your response TED?
> you can't all u can do is turn off the dinger read the owners manual
>
> > Does anybody know how to do this???
Ted Mittelstaedt - 19 Jun 2005 10:00 GMT
> Ahhh read the manual....never thought of that. The dinger is what I want to
> kill. Thanks Tim, for being the only person on this newsgroup with the
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> Of course, Ted,  I couldn't work on it very long because my big fat a.s
> couldn't bend over under the seat.

Now we get the truth.  I always wondered, with Harley riders with big
fat a.ses, does the extra weight help you stay balanced better on the
bike?  You know, with a big heavy buttcheek hanging over each side
of the seat?  I suppose you have to pay careful attention to make sure
that each buttcheek's weight stays roughly the same when your eating
all those chilidogs.

> TED,  I read somewhere that impotent men
> and or men with extremely small genitals are 75% more likely to put other
> people down on newsgroups.......

Hmm, could be.  Seems to me you have quite a fixation on small genitals.
But it's probably only an optical illusion in your case - your genitals are
probably just as big as they were before you added all that extra weight.
It's just that with those fatter hambones you have now, Mr. Willie looks so
much smaller in comparison.

Ted
Alex Rodriguez - 21 Jun 2005 22:00 GMT
>Does anybody know how to do this???

Wearing the seatbelt works for me.
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Alex
 
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