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Car Forum / Chrysler Cars / November 2005

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ANYONE KNOW ABOUT T&C SENTERY KEY OR WHY VAN WONT CONSISTANTLY WORK??

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KB02town&country - 07 Nov 2005 22:21 GMT
THIS IS A PUZZLER TO ME, MY 2002 TOWN & COUNTRY VAN WILL START 1/2 OF THE
TIME AND START BUT SHUT OFF AFTER 2 SECONDS THE REST.  AFTER THE 4TH TRY IT
WILL  NOT TURN OVER UNTIL ABOUT 30 MINUTES OR SO. IT IS SO INCONSISTANT WHEN
IT FOULS UP.  WE HAVE CHANGED THE BATTERY, CHECKED THE STARTER, THE
ALTERNATER, HAD IT HOOKED UP TO FIND NOTHING.   I AM SO FRUSTRATED!! WE HAVE
READ IN MANUAL THAT THIS  IS ABOUT WHAT  THE SENTERY KEY IS SUPPOSED TO DO
BUT WHY NOT ALL OF THE TIME AND HOW DO WE FIX IT TO MAKE THIS VAN DEPENDABLE.
THANKS TO ANYONE WITH SOME INPUT.
KELSEY
maxpower - 07 Nov 2005 22:43 GMT
> THIS IS A PUZZLER TO ME, MY 2002 TOWN & COUNTRY VAN WILL START 1/2 OF THE
> TIME AND START BUT SHUT OFF AFTER 2 SECONDS THE REST.  AFTER THE 4TH TRY IT
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> THANKS TO ANYONE WITH SOME INPUT.
> KELSEY

Turn off the caps!!! No need to yell
Your vehicle has a sentry key problem or the Immobilizer is not receiving
the proper info from the key.
More then likely there is a fault code set in the SKIM module. Take it to
the dealer or someone that has a scanner and is familiar with the system.
The  system is designed to lock out any other attempts at starting the
vehicle after the 3rd try. It wont crank at all.  And after the fourth try
it actually takes an hour to reset itself.
If you have one of those Mobil Key Passes on your key ring, this could cause
these exact symptoms, It will interfere with the system.

Glenn Beasley
Chrysler Tech
Mr.X - 08 Nov 2005 00:35 GMT
>> THIS IS A PUZZLER TO ME, MY 2002 TOWN & COUNTRY VAN WILL START 1/2 OF THE
>> TIME AND START BUT SHUT OFF AFTER 2 SECONDS THE REST.  AFTER THE 4TH TRY
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>Glenn Beasley
>Chrysler Tech

Question for Glenn or others

If   someday I wanted to  have the  SKIS disabled, is that possible?
if I  had the DRB3  could that just disable the SKIS/SKIM  or  is the
PCM configured such that once  SKIM is enabled  there is no way to
disable it on that particular PCM ( even with the correct PIN code )
and  it can only be disabled or not enabled  with a NEW / Replacement
PCM

thanks just interested.

also for those interested  complete data on the remote devolped by TRW
can be found  by the FCC data ID  a small part follows

Automotive Electronics Group
2001 JRlKJ RKE Transmitter
Principles of Circuit Operation
The transmitter utilizes a SAW resonator controlled oscillator to
generate a carrier of frequency of
315.0 MHz.. When a button is pressed, a Keeloq encoder will generate
an associated encrypted
command code; the code will be modulated onto the 315 MHz. carrier by
means of ASK
modulation; the modulated RF carrier then will be radiated through the
onboard antenna.
The transmitter will enter sleep mode after the pressed button is
released or after a button is
pressed down for about 27.5 seconds, whichever comes first. The Keeloq
encoder updates the
content of coding for each time of transmitting with a specific
encryption key.
maxpower - 08 Nov 2005 09:19 GMT
> >> THIS IS A PUZZLER TO ME, MY 2002 TOWN & COUNTRY VAN WILL START 1/2 OF THE
> >> TIME AND START BUT SHUT OFF AFTER 2 SECONDS THE REST.  AFTER THE 4TH TRY
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> content of coding for each time of transmitting with a specific
> encryption key.

I don't believe you can remove it from the system. The DRB does not have the
option to turn it off or disable it. Even by replacing the PCM  it will try
to communicate with the skim module. If you remove the skim module it will
not start . The only possible way I could think of would be replacing the
BCM and PCM (that's is not equipped with skim) and leaving the skim
disconnected, But that would be foolish to try unless you were planning on
stealing the vehicle. Make friends with the one on your vehicle because I
think it is there to stay.

Glenn Beasley
Chrysler Tech
KB02town&country - 08 Nov 2005 04:56 GMT
Thank you for your knowledge! It is at a  Chrystler dealership as we speek,
we thank you so much, my husband says that the tech there mentioned the skim
module and the relays, why he didn't fix it last time I don't know.   I have
owned this vehicle for 1 month and been able to drive it only for non stop
drives and have even had it towed only to get it home and start it!!  Again
we appreciate your help and answer.
>> THIS IS A PUZZLER TO ME, MY 2002 TOWN & COUNTRY VAN WILL START 1/2 OF THE
>> TIME AND START BUT SHUT OFF AFTER 2 SECONDS THE REST.  AFTER THE 4TH TRY IT
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>Glenn Beasley
>Chrysler Tech
 
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