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Car Forum / Chrysler Cars / November 2005

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PT Cruiser misting up

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Bob Dodds - 26 Nov 2005 07:56 GMT
Just drove my 2003 PT Cruiser CRD through heavy snow for the first time and
was surprised how well it handled. No slipping even on hard packed snow. I
did have a problem with the windows misting up badly and finished up driving
with the heater on full and blowing on demist to the windscreen which only
kept the centre clear. The side windows were wet by the time I reached the
low lands and the snow cleared. Then the screen cleared easily and I could
turn the fan to a slower speed. Anyone have an idea why this happened and
how to stop it?
me! - 26 Nov 2005 09:22 GMT
Make certain the air control is on outside air... NOT recycling inside air..
Bob Dodds - 26 Nov 2005 10:13 GMT
Yes it was on outside air, I hardly ever use recirc.

> Make certain the air control is on outside air... NOT recycling inside air..
Coasty - 26 Nov 2005 10:14 GMT
Check to see if your AC compressor is runnung while on defrost if not that
is the problem.

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> Yes it was on outside air, I hardly ever use recirc.
>
>> Make certain the air control is on outside air... NOT recycling inside
> air..
pottsy - 26 Nov 2005 10:48 GMT
Hiya,

We're on our 3rd Cruiser and they've all been the same.
Either we get a clear screen or we get clear side windows but not both.
It's a bit of a poor design really.
We try not to get too soggy before we get into the car.

m
Bob Dodds - 26 Nov 2005 11:30 GMT
Thanks, that could be a pointer as I had to get out a couple of times to
clear the snow build up off the wipers and I was a lot whiter when I got
back in the car.

A friend says a wet pollen filter could be a cause as well but does a PT
Cruiser have one?

Bob

> Hiya,
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> m
Daniel J. Stern - 26 Nov 2005 14:51 GMT
> Yes it was on outside air, I hardly ever use recirc.

Well, even a tiny pinhole leak in the heater plumbing inside the car
(core, pipes, possibly valve) can cause incredible amounts of very
stubborn steam on the windows...
BF - 26 Nov 2005 15:03 GMT
I wonder, might it not be better to use recirculate with the AC removing
excesss moisture? Assuming the cabin is a closed system (not too far from
true, maybe) then removing moisture will eventually reduce the relative
humidity below a point that it will condense on the windows as frost or
mist. A closed cabin has a finite amount of water and removing it will
eventually accomplish the above, the question is: how closed is closed and
how long to reduce the RH low enough.
BF

> > Yes it was on outside air, I hardly ever use recirc.
>
> Well, even a tiny pinhole leak in the heater plumbing inside the car
> (core, pipes, possibly valve) can cause incredible amounts of very
> stubborn steam on the windows...
Matt Whiting - 26 Nov 2005 15:38 GMT
> I wonder, might it not be better to use recirculate with the AC removing
> excesss moisture? Assuming the cabin is a closed system (not too far from
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> eventually accomplish the above, the question is: how closed is closed and
> how long to reduce the RH low enough.

If you are in recirculate, where is the water going to go?

Matt
BF - 26 Nov 2005 15:52 GMT
AC on, out the drain tube.
BF

> > I wonder, might it not be better to use recirculate with the AC removing
> > excesss moisture? Assuming the cabin is a closed system (not too far from
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> Matt
Daniel J. Stern - 26 Nov 2005 18:43 GMT
> I wonder, might it not be better to use recirculate with the AC removing
> excesss moisture?

NO!

Using recirculate will cause the air inside the car to become extremely
stale and wet.

> Assuming the cabin is a closed system (not too far from
> true, maybe) then removing moisture will eventually reduce the relative
> humidity below a point that it will condense on the windows as frost or
> mist.

Only if you stop breathing.
philthy - 26 Nov 2005 20:08 GMT
if the carpet is wet this can happen  and there is not much u can do about
it

> Yes it was on outside air, I hardly ever use recirc.
>
> > Make certain the air control is on outside air... NOT recycling inside
> air..
maxpower - 26 Nov 2005 16:19 GMT
> Make certain the air control is on outside air... NOT recycling inside air..

The mode  and recirculation controls are mechanically interlocked on this
vehicle so that the recirc control cannot be placed in the recirc position
if the mode is at or between the mix and defrost position

Glenn Beasley
Chrysler Tech
Coasty - 26 Nov 2005 11:04 GMT
> Just drove my 2003 PT Cruiser CRD through heavy snow for the first time
> and
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> turn the fan to a slower speed. Anyone have an idea why this happened and
> how to stop it?

A good PT Cruiser link
http://ptdoityourself.net/index.html

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maxpower - 26 Nov 2005 12:27 GMT
> Just drove my 2003 PT Cruiser CRD through heavy snow for the first time and
> was surprised how well it handled. No slipping even on hard packed snow. I
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> turn the fan to a slower speed. Anyone have an idea why this happened and
> how to stop it?

Make sure the A/C system is fully charged and working properly to remove the
moisture from inside the vehicle.

Glenn Beasley
Chrysler Tech
Bob Dodds - 26 Nov 2005 15:28 GMT
Aircon has worked fine all year so I don't think that's a problem. OK
British summers are not like hotter climes but the car would go pretty cold
if the aircon was on full blast. Also the earlier comment about a pinhole in
the heater matrix would show up all the time surely, plus the misting
cleared on the windscreen once I got out of the snow. Side windows were
still pretty wet until I dried them with a cloth. The only other thing I've
just thought of is the fan speed control was set blow in the white area of
the dial not the blue area which I would use for the aircon. Was this
correct?

Bob

> > Just drove my 2003 PT Cruiser CRD through heavy snow for the first time
> and
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> Glenn Beasley
> Chrysler Tech
pottsy - 26 Nov 2005 21:36 GMT
Hiya,

If the dial is set to demist the the front screen the aircon operates to dry
the air anyway, so it don't make any difference whether you use the aircon
setting.
Our car did the 'demist the front screen and leave the side windows misted'
thing this very evening, it's one thing or the other, and I usually clear
the front screen 'cos I try not to go sideways that often  :)

m
Ken Weitzel - 26 Nov 2005 22:13 GMT
> Hiya,
>
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>
> m

You needn't worry about sideways travel; the sunroof is provided
as an option for those that do much sideways travelling.

Mind, it doesn't have a "demister", so it should be fully opened
before attempting sideways travel.

Ken
 
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