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Car Forum / Chrysler Cars / December 2006

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2000 Concorde 3.2 L - power steering

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Carey - 22 Dec 2006 17:45 GMT
The power steering "hesitates" momentarily at low RPM  in this car. By
this, I mean that it seems to stiffen up momentarily while turning the
wheel in the driveway or at a stop sign - not at real driving speeds above
20-25 MPH. I took it to a "reputable" repair shop in my home town and their
"solution" was to remove the shaft and lubricate it.  That didn't work.

Precisely accompanying the hesitation, there is a muffled clicking or
thumping  sound which comes seemingly from under the driver's side dash
about every 1 - 3 seconds at low engine RPM. It sounds like some type of
pressure switch, but I really don't know. The fluid level is normal, and
never requires topping off.

Does anyone have an idea what could be causing this?  The belts were all
recently replaced during the 60,000 mile maintenance, and the car has about
80K miles on it now. 3.2 L engine.

Thanks,

    Carey
Bill Putney - 22 Dec 2006 19:29 GMT
> The power steering "hesitates" momentarily at low RPM  in this car. By
> this, I mean that it seems to stiffen up momentarily while turning the
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>
>      Carey

Perhaps the new belt has loosened - have it checked and re-tightened if
loose.  The pump sees it's highest resistance to turning at idle -
highest load on the belt at that time.  If that isn't the problem, have
p.s. fluid flushed and replaced (ATF+4 only).

"I took it to a 'reputable' repair shop in my home town and their
'solution' was to remove the shaft and lubricate it" - that doesn't make
sense.

Bill Putney
(To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my
address with the letter 'x')
Carey - 22 Dec 2006 19:53 GMT
>> The power steering "hesitates" momentarily at low RPM  in this car. By
>> this, I mean that it seems to stiffen up momentarily while turning the
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>highest load on the belt at that time.  If that isn't the problem, have
>p.s. fluid flushed and replaced (ATF+4 only).

Both of these are worth a shot. I'll try these out.

>"I took it to a 'reputable' repair shop in my home town and their
>'solution' was to remove the shaft and lubricate it" - that doesn't make
>sense.

My statement or their solution?

They said they removed the steering wheel shaft and lubricated it. I have
had a lot of used car repairs done with them in the past, and have been
satisfied till now.

Thanks again for your reply!

 - Carey

    Carey
Carey - 27 Dec 2006 20:48 GMT
>> The power steering "hesitates" momentarily at low RPM  in this car. By
>> this, I mean that it seems to stiffen up momentarily while turning the
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>(To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my
>address with the letter 'x')

Get this.... before I had a chance to try your suggestions, my battery up
and died (while at the airport!).

I got a jump, then a replacement battery. After R&R of the battery ... no
kidding... my power steering problem disappeared!!! Go figure.

BTW, the R&R of the battery did not help my trunk lid issue.

    Carey
Bill Putney - 27 Dec 2006 21:05 GMT
> Get this.... before I had a chance to try your suggestions, my battery up
> and died (while at the airport!).
>
> I got a jump, then a replacement battery. After R&R of the battery ... no
> kidding... my power steering problem disappeared!!! Go figure.

The alternator and p.s. pump are on the same belt.  Certain dieing
battery problems would load that belt.  If it was marginally tight, the
extra load (on the alternator) could have caused the belt to slip,
affecting p.s. at the same time.  Along with that, for a given current
load on the alternator, the torque load on the belt is at its worst at
idle, hence the p.s. problem presenting itself at low rpm's and idle.

Is it possible also that the shop that replaced your battery
pro-actively tightened the belt?  (or being cynical, the battery was
alright - your belt got thrown causing the battery to die, and they
replaced and properly tightened the new belt)

Bill Putney
(To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my
address with the letter 'x')
Carey - 29 Dec 2006 17:02 GMT
>> Get this.... before I had a chance to try your suggestions, my battery up
>> and died (while at the airport!).
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>load on the alternator, the torque load on the belt is at its worst at
>idle, hence the p.s. problem presenting itself at low rpm's and idle.

Makes sense. It was the original Mopar battery and served me well for 6
years.

>Is it possible also that the shop that replaced your battery
>pro-actively tightened the belt?  (or being cynical, the battery was
>alright - your belt got thrown causing the battery to die, and they
>replaced and properly tightened the new belt)

No, I replaced the battery myself. Bought it at Wal-Mart and they didn't
have enough people on board to change out due to the location of the
battery.  Gave the terminals a bath in liquified baking soda and greased
'em down with vaseline before installing the new battery.

Sounds like I need to have a look at the belt tension.

Thanks again for your time! Maybe my experience will help someone else...

Happy New Year!

    Carey
Bill Putney - 30 Dec 2006 13:16 GMT
> ...Thanks again for your time!...

You're welcome!

Bill Putney
(To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my
address with the letter 'x')
 
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