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Car Forum / Chrysler Cars / August 2007For Sale: 1968 Dodge Polara show winner, must see photos / rare classic
1968 Dodge Polara, Vintage Classic, rare and unspoiled vehicle with 318 engine and two 4-barrel carbs! Check out dubdubdub my dodge polara dot com More... 1968 Dodge Polara, Classic Muscle Car -- Street Modified Show Winner! You will not find a Dodge Polara in better condition! Everything has been handcrafted in fine detail. The original owner is selling because he needs room to fit new projects. In fact, he is the only one who has sat in it since the complete interior was redone! What is the value of this incredible machine? Who knows? But it is worth every cent! Cars like this are going for 25, 30, 40 or even $50,000 on eBay and elsewhere, but you can experience the rush and excitement of owning your own piece of history for only $19,888. The countless hours refinishing, restoring and reconditioning alone is worth more than your price for this rare vehicle. You really need to see and hear this car! What's included: take a look at the engine in this baby! It is a rebuilt 318 with two four-barrel carburetors. Lots of chrome and polished aluminum! Most everything is new or rebuilt. The brake and fule lines are polished stainless steel and custom installed. It has anew steering box, shocks, ball joints, tires, rim with knockoffs, all new chrome bumpers custom designed and polished. The steering column was rebuilt and the entire dash redone--everything works! Has tach and guages under dash. Extra N.O.S. AM Radio available upon request. All new rear drum brake parts and brand new stainless steel front disc brakes. The exhaust system is new with 24 glass packs--all ceramic coated. The exhaust was installed by RPM Mufflers in Hayward, CA. The interior is completely new and custom designed for this car. You have to see it! The trunk interior matches the rest of the car! The dashboard was sent along with the arm rests to to "Just Dashes" in Los Angeles; all new handles inside and out of the doors; custom pinstriping throughout the inside and out of the car, even under the hood--60's style cutout! Here's the fine print: This car was specifically designed to show, drive and enjoy! It is not a tire burner! It is a cruiser! Serious buyers only! No low-ballers, tightwads, etc. If you have the cash and want an incredible deal on a fantastic show car, well this is it! The price has already been dropped for a fast sale; no tire kickers! The vehicle is priced right, this is a final sale, as is, out the door cash deal! No payments or special arraingements. Shipping will be up to the buyer and payment in full must happen prior to making any shipping plans. Here's the way we're doing this: you send me an email stating your interest with any questions, and I contact the actual owner when you have been prequalified as a seriously interested buyer. No phone calls until after we've established your level of interest and ability to pay! Sorry for the requirements, but the internet is full of lookiloos and car-curious lurkers. Thank you for your interest! my dodge polara "dot" com Thanks! Erik Don't get me wrong, I LOVE late 60's Polaras. But the day a 318-powered anything other than a 'Cuda convertible or an Andy Granatelli Indy car is worth 20k I'll eat my shorts. > 1968 Dodge Polara, Vintage Classic, rare and unspoiled vehicle with > 318 engine and two 4-barrel carbs! [quoted text clipped - 58 lines] > > Erik have to disagree with you. This is a cruiser, not a drag racer. 90 MPH on freeway uphill, no problem! The fine details of putting together a rare piece of machinery like this takes a lot of time and effort. That is worth something. This baby is alltogether hotrod! Thanks for your input however... Erik mydodgepolara.com See the video --> http://www.mydodgepolara.com > Don't get me wrong, I LOVE late 60's Polaras. > [quoted text clipped - 66 lines] > > - Show quoted text - why the funky price with 888 on it? and polaras were cruisers not muscle cars > have to disagree with you. This is a cruiser, not a drag racer. 90 > MPH on freeway uphill, no problem! The fine details of putting [quoted text clipped - 77 lines] >> >> - Show quoted text - Rob, I think an asterisk is required here..... post-64 Polaras were cruisers. There are plenty of 63 & 64 Polaras that qualify as 'Muscle Cars.' John > why the funky price with 888 on it? > [quoted text clipped - 81 lines] >>> >>> - Show quoted text - probably right. I was referring to his web site saying the 68 was a classic muscle car..... I'd take a 64 any day. hell ya. > Rob, > I think an asterisk is required here..... post-64 Polaras were cruisers. [quoted text clipped - 93 lines] >>>> >>>> - Show quoted text - My brother used to have a 318-powered '68 Polara back in the early 70's. 'Muscle Car' is not a term I'd use in describing it. On the other hand, my friend had a '63 Polara with a 496" Hemi (currently living somewhere in Arizona). That one definitely fits anybody's definition of a 'Muscle Car.' Several stout Max Wedge '64's still running around the Motor City still as well. John > probably right. I was referring to his web site saying the 68 was a > classic muscle car..... [quoted text clipped - 104 lines] >>>>> >>>>> - Show quoted text - John Mielke added these comments in the current discussion du jour ... > My brother used to have a 318-powered '68 Polara back in the > early 70's. 'Muscle Car' is not a term I'd use in describing [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > City still as well. > John I am 2nd generation Chrysler, now retired myself. I spent 33 years in a wide variety of engineering and IT positions at all grade levels in Chrysler engineering. So, besides a large number of cars I've either bought or leased on the company car program, plus many cars with all sorts of engines in them while on the job, I can categorically say - my opinion, YMMV - that a 318 in ANY C-Body car is so anemic as to be almost dangerous, almost as bad as the 1st 2.2L K-Cars. You're trying to push around a 4200+ pound car with only 230 bhp, which might be around 150-160 net hp. The power-to-weight for even the bhp was only around 18:1. I had a number of 318s in smaller vehicles, sometimes because there was no choice, e.g. 1981 Cordoba, 1976 Volare, 1978 LeBaron, etc. I DID buy a 1975 Plymouth Gran Fury Brougham with a 360 in it, but I ordered a 3.23 axle for it. I'd driven similar cars at work and test-drove a car at the dealer with a 2.76. So, personally, I wouldn't much want a 318 Polara, preferring a 383 2-barrel at least. But, as I said, that's my opinion and your's obviously does vary. Now, I've also driven EVERY performance car Chrysler made 1969- 1970, then Army, then 1972-1975 when I switched to IT. But, by then, the muscle car era had ended. And, living here, I did the so-called Woodward Avenue Grand Prix loop from the Totem Pole drive-in in Royal Oak to Ted's Drive-In at Square Lake road and watched these cars in action against the best from GM and Ford. My personal observations were that a 383 Magnum was flatly non- competitive on the street, I know, I had one in my 1970 Challenger R/T. Even the 440 Magnum was barely adequate against an SS-396 or GTO 389, and no where near an SS-454 or a 455 Goat. Again, in my opinion, it took a 440 Six Pack to beat these guys. And, no, the 426 Street Hemi was NOT the car to beat on the street. Drags, yes, street, no. Several reasons: most people bought them with 3.23 gears because they needed to drive to work, which is not a good ratio for the torque curve of the Hemi. More important, though was that if the car had PB, it was almost a day's work to get the booster off so you could pull the valve covers and set the lash as well as replace the left rear plug. Lots of guys didn't have the time or energy so they drove around with with 4 anemic cylinders because of loose lash and one dead cylinder with a fouled plug. But, 60-punch on I-75 with a TorqueFlite was OWNED by the Hemi. That's not a good speed for the 4-speed GM and Ford cars, but right at the torque peak of the Hemi. Unfortunately, I never drove a Max Wedge anything, was in H.S. then. And, they didn't pass out drag race dual-quad short ram 426 Hemis for any yahoo to test spin. >> probably right. I was referring to his web site saying the >> 68 was a classic muscle car..... [quoted text clipped - 109 lines] >>>>>> >>>>>> - Show quoted text -  SignatureHP, aka Jerry > I can categorically say - my opinion, YMMV - that a 318 in > ANY C-Body car is so anemic as to be almost dangerous, almost as > bad as the 1st 2.2L K-Cars. You're trying to push around a 4200+ > pound car with only 230 bhp, which might be around 150-160 net > hp. The power-to-weight for even the bhp was only around 18:1. The combination of the 318 and the excellent torqueflight trans is pretty amazing. A buddy of mine had a '68 Fury III with the 318 2bbl. It would beat my '71 Galaxie 351W or a '74 Monte Carlo 350 from 0 - 60 with no problem. When the car is heavy, look at the torque, not the horsepower. Ken D. Ken Doyle added these comments in the current discussion du jour ... >> I can categorically say - my opinion, YMMV - that a 318 in >> ANY C-Body car is so anemic as to be almost dangerous, almost [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > When the car is heavy, look at the torque, not the horsepower. No matter what the weight of the car, torque is what accelerates it, while hp is what gives it speed, especially top speed. It is the combination of torque and hp and their relative curve shape and peak rpms, as well as their rise and fall characteristics that are tuned to produce desired performance from docile street to muscle car to street drag racer to a full-blown drag-only car. In my freshman year in Engineering School, we had an interesting lecture and exercise that shows how the hp and torque curves, combined with what is called "road hp" can be used to predict mathematically the top speed of any vehicle with any engine. Basically, when aerodynamic forces, drag, tire and other kinds of friction, etc. combine to create an amount of hp to go faster, and the engine cannot exceed that, that is the top speed. In the 1960s, Richard Petty was asked why he didn't go faster in some race and pass what turned out to be the winning car. He said that his engine and car builder had told him that at the speeds they were running, close to 200 but before the Winged Warrier days, it wouldn't taken 50 hp to go just 1-2 mph faster. He didn't have it. In fact, the Hemi no matter its great reputation, did not have all that great a hp advantage over the 427 Chevy and Fords, thus Dodge went to aerodynamics to try to get more speed by lowering drag, thus lowering road hp as described above. Still, I stand by my previous statement. Having personally driven 318-equipped cars from A- to B- to C-Body and weights from 3200- 4400 pounds, I can safely say that the heavy cars were just too much for it. Could it accelerate without being unsafe? Certainly? But, go back to the reprints of Hot Rod Magazine and other car rags of the 60s and see the times. It wasn't at all unusual for 318-360-383 2-barrel C-Bodies to take more than 10 seconds to sprint to 60, sometimes 12. And, I've got reprints of B-Body cars with 440 4-barrel, Six Packs, and 426 Street Hemi cars with gears from 3.23 to 4.11 that gave WILDLY differing 0-60 and standing 1320 ETs. The main reason, of course, was temperature, humidity, and track conditions. In car mag testing, you could rule out driver error and you could depend on a good tune. e.g., I have a test of a 426 Road Runner 4-speed with 4.11 gears that had the attrocious 0-60 time of 7.1 seconds and the 1/4 in OVER 15! Can't be so, you say? Well, I've got it in print. Now, if the moon, planets and stars aligned right, small engines could and did best far more powerful engines. e.g., in 1966, I had a Dodge Dart GT with a 273 4-barrel, just 235 hp, 4-speed and 3.23 gears. A friend had a similar car, a 1966 Chevy II Nova SS 327/350. I could stay with him to about 50 from a standing start before he started to pull away - using his vastly superior torque. Used to majorly piss him off. The reason was, I believe, NOT that one of us was a better driver but the two engines were at opposite ends of a BIG set of tolerances that affect performance. SignatureHP, aka Jerry He didn't have > it. In fact, the Hemi no matter its great reputation, did not > have all that great a hp advantage over the 427 Chevy and Fords, > thus Dodge went to aerodynamics to try to get more speed by > lowering drag, thus lowering road hp as described above. Not "much" of a HP advantage, but then you just proved that it didn't TAKE much. :-) However, the Hemi had at least one HUGE advantage over the big-block Chevy: The Hemi's moving parts usually stayed *inside* the engine for the duration of a race :-) The Ford was good competition, though. I apologise for using the "muscle car" term loosely. You are right of course. Erik > probably right. I was referring to his web site saying the 68 was a classic > muscle car..... > > I'd take a 64 any day. hell ya. > have to disagree with you. This is a cruiser, not a drag racer. 90 > MPH on freeway uphill, no problem! The fine details of putting > together a rare piece of machinery like this takes a lot of time and > effort. That is worth something. This baby is alltogether hotrod! I agree with you 100% on all of the above statements (I own a '66 Polara, 440 2.93 highway gears, would run triple digits for 8 hours without breaking a sweat and the AC blowing frost). And I'm sure its a great car. But a 318 C-body still doesn't command that kind of $$ in the market. Sorry. Neither does my Polara, and its a 383 car originally. Now if it were a pre-66 300 Letter car, or a Monaco 500 convertible.... different story. Steve added these comments in the current discussion du jour ... >> have to disagree with you. This is a cruiser, not a drag >> racer. 90 MPH on freeway uphill, no problem! The fine [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > for 8 hours without breaking a sweat and the AC blowing > frost). And I'm sure its a great car. Isn't it just a tad dangerous to run 8 hours over 100 mph, not to mention highly illegal? If you ever get busted by the State Police, you won't get a ticket, you'll be cuffed and arrested. 20 or 25 over is considered reckless driving. That, possibly combined with weaving lanes to get around the people who think that 80 is fast will add to your problems, etc. Don't know where you live, but it ain't the Autobahn! > But a 318 C-body still doesn't command that kind of $$ in the > market. Sorry. Neither does my Polara, and its a 383 car > originally. Now if it were a pre-66 300 Letter car, or a > Monaco 500 convertible.... different story. This part I agree with. The only people who would want such a car is someone who just wants a "classic" car at a reasonable price that won't keep them repairing it all the time. I was cruising again last night on Woodward Avenue (pre-cruise on Saturday crusing) and saw a number of cars like the OP described. Nothing wrong with it at all, just not an especially exciting car to cruise in. SignatureHP, aka Jerry > Steve added these comments in the current discussion du jour ... > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > mention highly illegal? If you ever get busted by the State > Police, you won't get a ticket, you'll be cuffed and arrested. Depends on what the limit is. "20 over" is usually the threshold for getting "busted" instead of ticketed around here, and there are freeways with an 80 mph limit (I 10, for example). But I'm too old to risk it, I never run more than about 8 mph over any given limit. But the bedwetters are, I think, pushing for busting you for anthing over 90 regardless of the limit now, since the new 80 limit puts "20 over" at 100 and they just can't stand the idea of someone running triple digits and not being a criminal. Besides I said the car "would" do it. And it would, but I've never sustained anything above 85. I took my family on vacation in that car last year, and 80 mph is the posted speed limit on I-10 in west Texas (and people run 85-88 all the time). It purred at that speed for hours, that is 100% in its element and what those cars were made to do. Had to slow down to the mid-70s heading north across New Mexico after that, and it felt like walking :-) >>But a 318 C-body still doesn't command that kind of $$ in the >>market. Sorry. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > crusing) and saw a number of cars like the OP described. Nothing > wrong with it at all, just not an especially exciting car to The reason I keep my '66 is precisely because its not worth a mint. It allows me to enjoy driving a 440-powered Mopar every day without worrying about it any more than I'd worry about a modern car. Can't do that with its sister- my '69 Coronet R/T. But I do keep it well-maintained. I'd rather keep an old car looking and running good than a new one, and I can't for the life of me figure out why Toyota owners even bother washing the little sh*tboxes :-) > erikdbl...@gmail.com wrote: > > have to disagree with you. This is a cruiser, not a drag racer. 90 [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > were a pre-66 300 Letter car, or a Monaco 500 convertible.... different > story. Yes, I know. The 318 C-body Polara is still unique in car shows and such. Somebody wants this one. Lots of interest. I'd like a Monaco 500 myself :) |
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