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Bob Nardelli new Chrysler boss

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George Orwell - 07 Aug 2007 00:44 GMT
>Chrysler hires Nardelli as boss
>By James Politi and Francesco Guerrera in New York
>Financial Times
>Updated: 4:12 p.m. MT Aug 6, 2007
>Chrysler, the US carmaker, on Monday confirmed it had hired Bob Nardelli,
>who was controversially ousted from Home Depot, the second-largest US
>retailer, in January as its next chairman and chief executive.
>
>The selection of Mr Nardelli reflected his acumen as an operational
>manager people close to Chrysler said.
>
>Tom LaSorda, current chief executive of Chrysler, will remain at the
>carmaker as vice-chairman and president.
>
>The surprise move to hire Mr Nardelli follows last week's change of
>ownership at Chrysler, which was sold by DaimlerChrysler, the German
>carmaker, to Cerberus Capital Management, the US private equity firm, in a
>$7.4bn deal.
>
>Wolfgang Bernhard, the former Chrysler chief operating officer who was
>brought in by Cerberus this year to help it execute the acquisition,
>decided not to accept a post as executive vice-chairman at Chrysler,
>people close to the matter said. They added that Eric Ridenour, current
>chief operating officer, would leave the company.
>
>Mr Nardelli more than doubled sales during his six years as chief
>executive of Home Depot. He joined the retailer after narrowly missing out
>on the top job at General Electric, but was criticised for his imperial
>management style and poor relationship with shareholders.
>
>His $210m severance package also became emblematic of the outsized
>compensation commanded by corporate America's top managers and contributed
>to an investor backlash that forced many companies to agree on non-binding
>shareholder votes on executive pay. At Chrysler, his compensation will be
>directly linked to the equity performance of the carmaker, people close to
>the matter said.
>
>Mr Nardelli's decision to return at the helm of a private equity-owned
>group confirms many experts' prediction he would find it difficult to
>stage a comeback among listed companies.
>
>However, even his critics acknowledged that, despite his abrasive
>character, his operational skills, forged in the managerial hotbed of GE's
>industrial businesses, would be highly sought after by private equity
>groups. The main issue for Chrysler would come if Cerberus decides to exit
>its investment through an initial public offering in a few years' time, as
>institutional investors may raise questions over Mr Nardelli's suitability
>to lead a listed company.
>
>He is the latest former GE executive to join private equity. Jack Welch,
>who picked Jeffrey Immelt instead of Mr Nardelli as his successor as GE's
>chairman and chief executive in 2000, is a senior adviser at Clayton
>Dubilier & Rice, while David Calhoun, a former GE's vice-chairman, was
>poached by the private equity groups that bought media group VNU, now
>Nielsen, last year.
>
>Copyright The Financial Times Ltd. All rights reserved.

Can we trust anybody whose name ends in a vowel?  Aside from that, Nardelli
comes from a non-automotive background.  He knows how to peddle, but, so
what? You might as well put my wife in charge of Chrysler being she knows
how to cook and clean.  Seems I remember Walter Chrysler was a mechanic,
wasn't he?  Am I to believe there is no one in this company that knows cars
inside and out and can't better run Chrysler than a guy who best knows how
to push lumber out the door?
Joe - 08 Aug 2007 05:51 GMT
I was a little surprised.  You need to remember that Home Depot just paid
him $210 million to LEAVE.  Who'd hire somebody like that?  How do you
motivate a man who just got paid $210 million to quit his old job?
Ted Mittelstaedt - 11 Aug 2007 09:07 GMT
> I was a little surprised.  You need to remember that Home Depot just paid
> him $210 million to LEAVE.  Who'd hire somebody like that?  How do you
> motivate a man who just got paid $210 million to quit his old job?

Um, it's not a question of motivating him with compensation.

You have to understand what Cerberus is up to.  They bought Chrysler with
the idea that they will get it profitable then do an IPO and make a killing
on all the investors that buy the stock.

The problem though is the stock market has got a lot more fragile than
it was 6 months ago.  Cerberus is afraid that if they don't get Chrysler
profitable soon then even if they eventually do get it profitable, they
would lose money on making it go public because they are thinking the
stock market is going to go down further.

So, how do they make it profitable quick?  Simple.  They squeeze all
the suppliers, they threaten the dealers with losing their franchises if
they
don't get sales up, they cut corners on manufacturing, they cut labor
by laying off people.  They don't really care if what they do deals mortal
blows to the company.  To do all this they have to hire someone who is
just nasty as all get out, someone who LIKES being the number one
a.shole.  They want the labor unions facing a CEO who the union thinks
might actually go out and do something insanely stupid, like close an entire
plant down if a few troublemakers in it manage to vote down a contract.
That's Nardelli in a nutshell.

Ted
Joe - 14 Aug 2007 02:23 GMT
>> I was a little surprised.  You need to remember that Home Depot just paid
>> him $210 million to LEAVE.  Who'd hire somebody like that?  How do you
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>
> Ted

Well, maybe so, but if he can save them 300 million dollars, and they have
to pay him 500 million dollars, they're going to be way in the hole.  If he
can save them $500 million, then they basically haven't done anything.

Realistically, there are lots of talented people who would love to run
Chrysler for 2 or 3 million bucks, and would do it well.  Carlos Goshn is
CEO of two car companies now and he makes about $3 million.
Percival P. Cassidy - 14 Aug 2007 15:25 GMT
> Well, maybe so, but if he can save them 300 million dollars, and they have
> to pay him 500 million dollars, they're going to be way in the hole.  If he
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> Chrysler for 2 or 3 million bucks, and would do it well.  Carlos Goshn is
> CEO of two car companies now and he makes about $3 million.

Look, I'd be willing to run Chrysler for a month. I wouldn't be able to
do *much* damage in that short time, then they can fire me and pay me
the same for that month as Nardelli got for each month he was at HD.

Perce
Joe - 15 Aug 2007 05:18 GMT
>> Well, maybe so, but if he can save them 300 million dollars, and they
>> have to pay him 500 million dollars, they're going to be way in the hole.
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>
> Perce

I've always thought that.  Any institution would find it hard to keep me on
the job for $10 million a month.  After a month I'd be so gone they'd never
find me.  It just goes to show that American CEO's are all insane, or else I
am.
who - 15 Aug 2007 05:56 GMT
> I've always thought that.  Any institution would find it hard to keep me on
> the job for $10 million a month.  After a month I'd be so gone they'd never
> find me.  It just goes to show that American CEO's are all insane, or else I
> am.

Why are they insane, when they reap such unjustified rewards.
I'd say they are very smart and are taking the company boards to the
cleaners.
Doug - 15 Aug 2007 07:12 GMT
>> I've always thought that.  Any institution would find it hard to keep me on
>> the job for $10 million a month.  After a month I'd be so gone they'd never
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>I'd say they are very smart and are taking the company boards to the
>cleaners.

No, they are taking the company stockholders to the cleaners...
I'm increasingly surprised that there are not more stockholder revolts
at annual meetings.

I suppose the only reason why there are not more stockholder revolts
is that the majority of shares in many companies are owned by mutual
funds or pension trusts.

Doug
who - 15 Aug 2007 08:58 GMT
> No, they are taking the company stockholders to the cleaners...
> I'm increasingly surprised that there are not more stockholder revolts
> at annual meetings.
Correct, but after the board approves of the stealing.

> I suppose the only reason why there are not more stockholder revolts
> is that the majority of shares in many companies are owned by mutual
> funds or pension trusts.
True and many individual shareholders wouldn't find it an effective use
of their time and money to go to the shareholder meetings launching a
protest that would be ignored anyway.
Ted Mittelstaedt - 16 Aug 2007 10:03 GMT
> > No, they are taking the company stockholders to the cleaners...
> > I'm increasingly surprised that there are not more stockholder revolts
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> of their time and money to go to the shareholder meetings launching a
> protest that would be ignored anyway.

Unfortunately, very few of the stockholders these days care who the
hell is running the company and WTF they are doing, as long as the
stock price keeps going up.  And equally unfortunately, stock prices
on many companies these days have very little relation to the actual
health of the company.

Since Nardelli is known as a ball-breaker they probably think the
market will assume he will gut the company to make the profits look
high, and the stock price will rise in anticipation.

Then a couple years from now when the current holders have all
sold their stock holdings and made a buck, the stockholders then
will figure out the company was gutted and the stock price will
plummet.  That's the time for shareholder protests and the like.
Of course it will be too late then.

Ted
Lloyd - 16 Aug 2007 18:42 GMT
> > In article <h665c319n8eq6o8fap48nnreu5e37ul...@4ax.com>,
>
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>
> Ted

Of course, Chrysler has no stockholders any more, just investors in a
private company.  That means we may never hear again how Chrysler is
doing financially, as they are under no obligation to make anything
public.
Ted Mittelstaedt - 17 Aug 2007 10:29 GMT
> > > In article <h665c319n8eq6o8fap48nnreu5e37ul...@4ax.com>,
> >
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> doing financially, as they are under no obligation to make anything
> public.

The investors in Chrysler bought it to turn it around and sell it.  That is
how investment houses like them operate.  It is on a large scale
fundamentally the same thing as when an individual buys a run down
home and fixes it up for a quick sale.  They call it "flipping houses"
in the trade.  This is simply "flipping a company"

If the Dow hadn't crashed they would be planning the IPO in 2
years I'd bet.  But I suspect that right now they are going to hold
on to Chrysler for a number of years until the stock market improves.
That is a shame as Chrysler will not have any kind of visionary
leader until the bankers are gone and out of the picture, and we
probably will see a series of boring prefunctory cars from them
for a while.

Ted
Joe Pfeiffer - 17 Aug 2007 15:43 GMT
> > > > In article <h665c319n8eq6o8fap48nnreu5e37ul...@4ax.com>,
> > >
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> home and fixes it up for a quick sale.  They call it "flipping houses"
> in the trade.  This is simply "flipping a company"

I've been wandering around looking at Cerberus, and while I can find a
lot of companies they've bought, I can't find any they've sold.  While
they seem to operate by raising profits through cost-cutting and
selling unprofitable assets, they seem to be more long-term than just
flipping companies (if you've found a source that points to Cerberus
as flipping companies, rather than a generic statement that it's how
private investment firms operate, I'd be happy to hear it.  Well, not
happy, since I'd like Chrysler to succeed, but you know what I mean).
Joe - 17 Aug 2007 22:15 GMT
> I've been wandering around looking at Cerberus, and while I can find a
> lot of companies they've bought, I can't find any they've sold.  While
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> private investment firms operate, I'd be happy to hear it.  Well, not
> happy, since I'd like Chrysler to succeed, but you know what I mean).

It'll be fun to watch what they do.  Product-wise, I am concerned.  They
won't be taking Mercedes old platforms, and I don't suppose there's much
chance of Nardelli being a product man.  Maybe they'll fool me.
Lloyd - 18 Aug 2007 20:02 GMT
> > I've been wandering around looking at Cerberus, and while I can find a
> > lot of companies they've bought, I can't find any they've sold.  While
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> won't be taking Mercedes old platforms, and I don't suppose there's much
> chance of Nardelli being a product man.  Maybe they'll fool me.

There's a good article in Fortune magazine about Cerberus, on-line
here:

http://money.cnn.com/2007/08/03/news/companies/cerberus.fortune/index.htm?postve
rsion=2007080523

Joe Pfeiffer - 19 Aug 2007 06:29 GMT
> There's a good article in Fortune magazine about Cerberus, on-line
> here:
>
> http://money.cnn.com/2007/08/03/news/companies/cerberus.fortune/index.htm?postve
rsion=2007080523

Interesting article, particularly on Steinberg's style.  But it
doesn't seem to address my question, which is to what extent Cerberus
had chopped up companies and sold the remains (so far, I haven't seen
any reports that they have behaved that way, which is really unusual
given their love of buying companies on the verge of failure).
Joe - 17 Aug 2007 22:13 GMT
>> No, they are taking the company stockholders to the cleaners...
>> I'm increasingly surprised that there are not more stockholder revolts
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>> is that the majority of shares in many companies are owned by mutual
>> funds or pension trusts.
.

That's no explanation.  Wouldn't pension trusts and mutual fund companies be
well organized, and able to control a comany effectively?

I can tell you that at my company, our big investors can easily get what
they want when they stand their ground.  If the board wants to do something
stupid, the board gets a talking to from these people, and the board has to
give in. I've seen them do it. Yet these "accountability sessions" don't
seem to extend to the issue of executive giveaways.
Doug - 19 Aug 2007 09:04 GMT
>>> No, they are taking the company stockholders to the cleaners...
>>> I'm increasingly surprised that there are not more stockholder revolts
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>That's no explanation.  Wouldn't pension trusts and mutual fund companies be
>well organized, and able to control a comany effectively?

Yes and no. They tend to be run by analysts who simply look at the
bottom line. Plus they may well have a certain sympathetic
relationship to executives who wine and dine them. The fund managers
own huge bonuses often depend more on marketing to new fund
shareholders than minimizing cost for their current fund shareholders.
The mutual funds with 7.5% loads are testaments to that.

>I can tell you that at my company, our big investors can easily get what
>they want when they stand their ground.  If the board wants to do something
>stupid, the board gets a talking to from these people, and the board has to
>give in. I've seen them do it. Yet these "accountability sessions" don't
>seem to extend to the issue of executive giveaways.

Sure that's certainly true for the large investors like Kerkorian.
However, I'm sure that investors like him, used to making many
millions per year, are also sympathetic to multimillion dollar
executive bonuses.

Doug
Joe - 17 Aug 2007 01:40 GMT
>> I've always thought that.  Any institution would find it hard to keep me
>> on
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> I'd say they are very smart and are taking the company boards to the
> cleaners.

Well, if you say so, I must be the insane one.  I can tell you if I had 100
million dollars, you wouldn't catch me going to work every day trying to get
a 2nd 100 million.  They have to set an alarm clock just like I do.
Ted Mittelstaedt - 17 Aug 2007 10:33 GMT
> >> I've always thought that.  Any institution would find it hard to keep me
> >> on
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> million dollars, you wouldn't catch me going to work every day trying to get
> a 2nd 100 million.  They have to set an alarm clock just like I do.

The problem is that in order to get the job that pays 100 million you have
to be the type that would NEVER be satisfied just sitting back and living
off the money.  It's one of those cruel jokes the Universe plays on us poor
humans.  The poor people like us aren't content unless we had the 100
million and
the rich people who have the 100 million aren't content unless they have 200
million.

Ted
steve86@earthlink.net - 22 Aug 2007 13:34 GMT
Look what he did to home depot, used to be you went in for something & an
expert that did these things helped you now you get a slaes person that
knows nothing about what might be needed. He got rid of all the good ones &
hired at less salary.
>I was a little surprised.  You need to remember that Home Depot just paid
>him $210 million to LEAVE.  Who'd hire somebody like that?  How do you
>motivate a man who just got paid $210 million to quit his old job?
Dori A Schmetterling - 09 Aug 2007 23:29 GMT
Meaning?

DAS

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