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Car Forum / Chrysler Cars / August 2007Why is Chrysler still selling new 2006 Crossfires?
I still see dealers advertising NEW 2006 Crossfire coupes and roadsters! Does anyone know why? Mister B What do you expect them to do with unsold inventory. Bury them? >I still see dealers advertising NEW 2006 Crossfire coupes and roadsters! > Does anyone know why? Mister B > "Mister Bear" <MisterBea...@webtv.net> wrote in message > > >I still see dealers advertising NEW 2006 Crossfire coupes and roadsters! > > Does anyone know why? Mister B > > What do you expect them to do with unsold inventory. Bury them? They aren't NEW anymore but marketing them as UNSOLD or NEW FROM OLD STOCK may be just as good as burying them :o) Perhaps they should have the dealers drive them around the block a few times and sell them as EXTREMELY LOW MILEAGE used cars :o) >> "Mister Bear" <MisterBea...@webtv.net> wrote in message >> [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > They aren't NEW anymore if they have never been owned they are "new" but marketing them as UNSOLD or NEW FROM OLD > STOCK may be just as good as burying them :o) > > Perhaps they should have the dealers drive them around the block a few > times and sell them as EXTREMELY LOW MILEAGE used cars :o) > What do you expect them to do with unsold inventory. Bury them? > > >I still see dealers advertising NEW 2006 Crossfire coupes and roadsters! > > Does anyone know why? Mister B I understand there are several dealers around the nation that have unsold Crossfires. I think that they are stuck with them, as Chrysler probably won't take them back for either cash or credit. -KM It's tempting: small town Ohio here.....an indendent (but reputable) used car dealer has a used '06 Coupe.........3300 miles, balance of warranty.....very pretty car in medium metalic blue. Asking $19,000. Now, that's depreciation! I guess the thing that stops me is the thought of what those Benz parts will cost in the future. > It's tempting: small town Ohio here.....an indendent (but reputable) > used car dealer has a used '06 Coupe.........3300 miles, balance of [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > I guess the thing that stops me is the thought of what those Benz parts > will cost in the future. It should stop you indeed. Nevermind if it is physically the same as any other type of Benz motor or other parts.. since it is for Crossfire, it will be *RIDICULOUSLY* expensive. I used to work on mercedes-benz junk and it pissed me off every time i tried to use something as simple as an inside door handle from a parts car in another car with a different chassis model and found it to be just slightly different enough so as to not be useful without looking extremely ghetto. Either that, or it just didn't work. Not like the old days of MoPar where everything had the same window crank, door handles, voltage regulator, alternator, etc. Circa 1960? DAS For direct replies replace nospam with schmetterling --- [...] > Not like > the old days of MoPar where everything had the same window crank, door > handles, voltage regulator, alternator, etc. > Circa 1960? > > >>Not like >>the old days of MoPar where everything had the same window crank, door >>handles, voltage regulator, alternator, etc. The amount of interchangability among Chrysler cars from about 1960-61 right through the 80s is amazing. There was an almost 20-year run there where the technology continued to advance and the cars got more advanced sub-systems, but interchangeability wasn't disrupted. Its great for us Mopar collectors now, because we can back-fit all sorts of things so easily. Disk brakes for a '66 Polara? Get a set of disk-brake steering knuckles off a '73 Newport at a junkyard, the combination valve off ANY post-71 Mopar, and buy the rest at NAPA (pads, rotors, calipers, etc are all still in-stock most of the time). The whole conversion costs under $200, compared to over a grand for an aftermarket custom brake system. Even the 80s front-drive cars (sucky as they were) shared a lot of basic mechanical components during the K-car era. > It's tempting: small town Ohio here.....an indendent (but reputable) > used car dealer has a used '06 Coupe.........3300 miles, balance of [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > I guess the thing that stops me is the thought of what those Benz parts > will cost in the future. I'd worry less about the Benz parts (the drivetrain is shared with a lot of other Benz cars) as the Crossfire-specific body and interior parts.... the car ss a blast to drive if you are a driver and the car really sucks in the snow you will get stuck real easy > It's tempting: small town Ohio here.....an indendent (but reputable) > used car dealer has a used '06 Coupe.........3300 miles, balance of [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > I guess the thing that stops me is the thought of what those Benz parts > will cost in the future. > the car ss a blast to drive if you are a driver and the car really sucks > in the snow you will get stuck real easy Of course it's a toy, but it does seem to be a steal. On ThursdayI posted about a nice Crossfire couple at a local dealer (with 3000 miles for $19,000).....it's been sold and driving around town with plates on it now. Today (Sunday) the same dealer now has a convert....but it's $23,000. This is an independent dealer with about 40 cars on its small lot.......and said to go to Detrot mfg's auctions to get real executive cars. Looks like the word is out to get rid or the Crossfires.......and our little town of 20,000 may end-up as the Crossfire Capital of Ohio!!!! > I still see dealers advertising NEW 2006 Crossfire coupes and roadsters! > Does anyone know why? Mister B Because no one BOUGHT them. > I still see dealers advertising NEW 2006 Crossfire coupes and roadsters! > Does anyone know why? Mister B I expect Chrysler wrote them off last year, included in the 150,000 cars that were unsold and written off, giving Chrysler that huge loss. >:) So as far as Chrysler is concerned they are gone, gone forever! > I still see dealers advertising NEW 2006 Crossfire coupes and roadsters! > Does anyone know why? Mister B I would guess because they still have them on the lot!!! Glenn Beasley Chrysler Tech I suppose I set myself up for wisecrack comebacks when I asked WHY new 2006 Crossfires are still at dealerships. I have never run into a similar situation before. The question is why haven't 2 year old new 2006 Crossfires sold? Bad car? Too expensive? Supply problem? When new cars remain unsold this long, there's has to be a story behind it. In contrast, the new Saturn Sky has generally had a waiting list for availability. A new '08 Sky at full list price can be had way cheaper than most new 2006 Crossfires sold at deep 5-figure discounts. This is just plain strange. Mister B > I suppose I set myself up for wisecrack comebacks when I asked WHY new > 2006 Crossfires are still at dealerships. I have never run into a [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Mister B They built too many for the demand. Its styling is extreme enough to have very limited appeal, and combined with a potentially tempermental and expensive to maintain Mercedes drivetrain, and it lacked enough performance to be attractive except for the turbo version (which was even MORE expensive). The Prowler had even more extreme styling, but was more attractive, had more base performance, and did it with a very simple and dead-nuts reliable Chrysler drivetrain borrowed from the LH cars. More importantly, they did a better job of predicting the Prowler demand and didn't build so many of them. 2006 overall was bad because of over production for DC. I still see brand new 06 300's and a few brand new Chargers being sold at dealerships. The 07 production is much less. Used 06's will take a huge depreciation because of this. >> I suppose I set myself up for wisecrack comebacks when I asked WHY new >> 2006 Crossfires are still at dealerships. I have never run into a [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > importantly, they did a better job of predicting the Prowler demand and > didn't build so many of them. But they are now including the lifetime powertrain warranty on the 06's. >> I suppose I set myself up for wisecrack comebacks when I asked WHY new >> 2006 Crossfires are still at dealerships. I have never run into a [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > importantly, they did a better job of predicting the Prowler demand and > didn't build so many of them. > But they are now including the lifetime powertrain warranty on the 06's. So they've been holding back on a full guarantee for their very long life power trains? All new 06,07 & 06's. >> But they are now including the lifetime powertrain warranty on the 06's. > > So they've been holding back on a full guarantee for their very long > life power trains? >>But they are now including the lifetime powertrain warranty on the 06's. > > So they've been holding back on a full guarantee for their very long > life power trains? Long-life powertrains don't really need a full guarantee. But at any rate, we're talking about a Benz powertrain, not a "long life" one :-p > >>But they are now including the lifetime powertrain warranty on the 06's. > > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Long-life powertrains don't really need a full guarantee. But at any > rate, we're talking about a Benz powertrain, not a "long life" one :-p Oh, so they are mutually exclusive. If Chrysler has to fix Mercedes power trains for life time, they then won't survive. >>>>But they are now including the lifetime powertrain warranty on the 06's. >>> [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > If Chrysler has to fix Mercedes power trains for life time, they then > won't survive. Makes sense to me. Just ONE Benz repair would put me out of business... :-) it's a small german 2 seater car that was way overpriced for what it is trying to be sold in a american market that did not want it and did i mention it sucks in the snow > I suppose I set myself up for wisecrack comebacks when I asked WHY new > 2006 Crossfires are still at dealerships. I have never run into a [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Mister B > it's a small german 2 seater car that was way overpriced for what it is > trying to be sold in a american market that did not want it and did i > mention it sucks in the snow So it's a poor car for this market, plus it was overpriced? No wonder it tanked. This YAHOO comment says a lot: > Cons: BLINDSPOTS!, stereo system could be better, no cupholders In NA you MUST HAVE LOTS OF CUP HOLDERS DL! There are 2006 Pontiac GTO's too. Lots and lots of them. I guess I have to agree with you - I've never seen anything quite like it either. The GTO is a really great car, but the styling is too boring. I guess the crossfire has the opposite problem, its styling isn't boring enough. I feel comfortable saying the reason people didn't buy crossfires wasn't because it was a bad car. It's bound to be a great car. It's just that the market for a 2-seater non-convertible is pretty limited, and it's kind of high-priced. They build too many. The Sky and Solstice have been fun to watch - they've decide not to build enough of them. Our dealer in my town has never actually had one for sale. They pre-sell them all. >I suppose I set myself up for wisecrack comebacks when I asked WHY new > 2006 Crossfires are still at dealerships. I have never run into a [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Mister B >I feel comfortable saying the reason people didn't buy crossfires wasn't >because it was a bad car. It's bound to be a great car. It's just that the >market for a 2-seater non-convertible is pretty limited, and it's kind of >high-priced. They build too many. The market was further limited by the fact that only a midget could buy the car. I'm 6' and a tad over 200 and couldn't fit in the damn thing... Had to bend my head sideways and look at the pillar at the top of the windshield. Why would they build a car that attracts men and then make it so a man can't fit in it? I've been in plenty of cars that weren't comfortable but not many that I just plain couldn't fit in to. Steve B. > Why would they build a car that attracts men and then make it so a man > can't fit in it? I've been in plenty of cars that weren't comfortable > but not many that I just plain couldn't fit in to. So it's sized for ladies or Asian men? THX, then I wouldn't fit either, so I won't be taking one off Chryslers hands. >>Why would they build a car that attracts men and then make it so a man >>can't fit in it? I've been in plenty of cars that weren't comfortable >>but not many that I just plain couldn't fit in to. > > So it's sized for ladies or Asian men?... Chrysler in fact may have realized that, judging from the TV commercial - remember the TV commercial in which the Asian kid is sitting at home mumbling to himself while his dad is out shopping for a new car - he's thinking his dad will bring home some lame car. Then his dad, wearing a sports cap and looking super cool, pulls into the driveway in a new Crossfire, and the kid goes "Woah - dad!!"? Bill Putney (To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my address with the letter 'x') > > So it's sized for ladies or Asian men?... > Chrysler in fact may have realized that, judging from the TV commercial > - remember the TV commercial in which the Asian kid is sitting at home > mumbling to himself while his dad is out shopping for a new car - he's > thinking his dad will bring home some lame car. Then his dad, wearing a > sports cap and looking super cool, pulls into the driveway in a new > Crossfire, and the kid goes "Woah - dad!!"? Like the '96 Cirrus which I found just wrong for me. The steering wheel was to far away when the seat was correct for my legs. A kind Chrysler salesman told me to forget it, as it only fits shorter people like Asian men. I have this same problem with the Toyota Corolla. A telescoping steering would solve this problem, but they don't want too many people to buy below their income capability. >>>So it's sized for ladies or Asian men?... > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > A kind Chrysler salesman told me to forget it, as it only fits shorter > people like Asian men. The reason for that is the airbag. In order to keep the airbag a "safe" distance from the shorter end of the range of people likely to ever drive a car (who also happen to be the most likely to be injured by a bag because they're also lighter), they put the wheel far away. I HATE having my arms straight out when driving, but all modern cars are that way, its nearly impossible to get the classic driving position of elbows bent down by your ribs anymore. > The reason for that is the airbag. In order to keep the airbag a "safe" > distance from the shorter end of the range of people likely to ever [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > way, its nearly impossible to get the classic driving position of elbows > bent down by your ribs anymore. True, but a telescoping steering makes it possible. >>The reason for that is the airbag. In order to keep the airbag a "safe" >>distance from the shorter end of the range of people likely to ever [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > True, but a telescoping steering makes it possible. It WOULD if manufacturers still offered it on many models. > >>The reason for that is the airbag. In order to keep the airbag a "safe" > >>distance from the shorter end of the range of people likely to ever [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > It WOULD if manufacturers still offered it on many models. Several "import manufacturers" are now offering it, see the Toyota Camry and Volvo. They do need to offer it on more cars. I could drive the Toyota Corolla if it had one. >>I feel comfortable saying the reason people didn't buy crossfires wasn't >>because it was a bad car. It's bound to be a great car. Why would you say that? Its ALL Mercedes under the skin, and they've been crap lately. > There are 2006 Pontiac GTO's too. Lots and lots of them. I guess I have to > agree with you - I've never seen anything quite like it e And in that case, its because GM made it look so much like a Grand Prix that nobody notices them. What a mess- the new GTO (Holden) is a wonderful chassis, screwed over by wretched styling. |
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