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Car Forum / Chrysler Cars / August 2007Chrysler may end PT Cruiser production in two years (Sun-Sentinel)
http://www.ng2000.com/fw.php?tp=chrysler 08/15/2007: ROYAL OAK, Mich. Chrysler LLC said Tuesday it will build its iconic PT Cruiser at least through 2009 but made no promises after that, fueling speculation that the stylish retro wagon hurt by a recent slump in sales could be on its way out. > http://www.ng2000.com/fw.php?tp=chrysler > > 08/15/2007: ROYAL OAK, Mich. Chrysler LLC said Tuesday it will build its iconic PT Cruiser at least through 2009 but made no promises after that, fueling speculation that the stylish retro wagon hurt by a recent slump in sales could be on its way out. 1) Chrysler reports a drop in sales of the PT Cruiser 2) Automotive know-nothings immediately assume the PT Cruiser will be discontinued 3) Chrysler says "we have no plans to discontinue the PT Cruiser for the next 2 years at least" 4) Know-nothings immediately demand Chrysler to promise there will be no changes in their model line up for the next decade 5) Chrysler says "how should we know what the market will do 3 or 4 years from now?" 6) Know-nothings claim this is proof that the PT Cruiser is on it's way out. My question is why do the automotive reporters even bother with the press releases at all? Whay don't they simply fabricate whatever they want to say out of thin air and report that? Since that is what they are doing anyway. Ted If they intend to produce a real PT Cruiser in 2010 and beyond work had to have started at least two years ago. Let's hope the new company has a few tricks up its parts box. Richard. > http://www.ng2000.com/fw.php?tp=chrysler > > 08/15/2007: ROYAL OAK, Mich. Chrysler LLC said Tuesday it will build its iconic PT Cruiser at least through 2009 but made no promises after that, fueling speculation that the stylish retro wagon hurt by a recent slump in sales could be on its way out. Its had a FANTASTIC run. It wouldn't be a failure even if they did pull the plug in 2 years. Compare that to the HHR, which was a flop from the get-go.... > http://www.ng2000.com/fw.php?tp=chrysler > > 08/15/2007: ROYAL OAK, Mich. Chrysler LLC said Tuesday it will build its > iconic PT Cruiser at least through 2009 but made no promises after that, > fueling speculation that the stylish retro wagon hurt by a recent slump in > sales could be on its way out. I'm surprised they will keep it that long. Must still be selling. I hope they upgraded the low grade lighting switch that bugs my friend. He can't use his fog lamps he paid extra for and Chrysler has no fix for his PT. I love my 01 Limited! There are so many design choices the design team made that are just right. It has been very reliable, but for the typical crap sway bar bushings and links, cured by Energy brand replacements. All they needed to make the cruiser the perfect vehicle for the time is to have significantly improved its fuel economy. By now the PT Cruiser should sport from the factory the follwing: 1. Significantly higher quality all season tires such as the Goodyear Triple Tread. 2. Significantly improved front and rear sway bar links and bushings. 3. Significantly improved disk brakes with ceramic pads. 4. Stability Control. 5. Better seats, radios and GPS options. But nooooo. The guys in the suits just kept removing content and opting for a corporate look to the dash and front end. Either I'm dead wrong or the guys in the suits should be shot. Richard All I would like is better than the 25.5 mpg highway I get on the interstate (non turbo engine with 3 people in car) and rear seats that were lighter weight. They always feel too heavy when yanking them out for a "stuff piled to the roof" run. > I love my 01 Limited! There are so many design choices the design team made > that are just right. It has been very reliable, but for the typical crap [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > 1. Significantly higher quality all season tires such as the Goodyear Triple > Tread. My '95 Chrysler had my favorite tires: Michelins. > 2. Significantly improved front and rear sway bar links and bushings. Seem OK on my Chrysler, > 3. Significantly improved disk brakes with ceramic pads. Also OK on my Chrysler, > 4. Stability Control. Only needed for excessive speed or drunk driving. If driving normally requires it that driver should be a passenger. > 5. Better seats, radios and GPS options. Got great seats and radio. I wouldn't want a built in GPS as I want to use one when I travel and rent a car or even when walking. > But nooooo. The guys in the suits just kept removing content and opting for > a corporate look to the dash and front end. Either I'm dead wrong or the > guys in the suits should be shot. I upset a friend of mine, when discussing his PT quality problems. I said it is Chryslers low end car, which did upset him, but another friend present supported me. No matter how dolled up a PT is, it's still Chryslers bottom end vehicle which is built to meet a low price point. Honda and Toyota seem to maintain quality in their bottom end vehicles. IMHO the 2006 and up redesign models rival any Toyota/Honda low end models. I've had a 2001 PT and then bought a 2006 14 months ago. The 2006 is quiet and very solid- has only been to the dealer for oil changes so far. I really think it is one of the best quality and fit/finish vehicles Chrysler offers- and I'm comparing it to my 05 Pacifica and 06 Town and Country minivan. >> I love my 01 Limited! There are so many design choices the design team >> made [quoted text clipped - 37 lines] > > Honda and Toyota seem to maintain quality in their bottom end vehicles. > IMHO the 2006 and up redesign models rival any Toyota/Honda low end models. > I've had a 2001 PT and then bought a 2006 14 months ago. The 2006 is quiet > and very solid- has only been to the dealer for oil changes so far. I > really think it is one of the best quality and fit/finish vehicles Chrysler > offers- and I'm comparing it to my 05 Pacifica and 06 Town and Country > minivan. You've only had your 2006 PT for a short time. So initial quality is OK, but long term takes 5+ years to start evaluating the longer term, 7+ years to really know it. > I upset a friend of mine, when discussing his PT quality problems. > I said it is Chryslers low end car, which did upset him, but another > friend present supported me. No matter how dolled up a PT is, it's still > Chryslers bottom end vehicle which is built to meet a low price point. I disagree on several counts. For one thing, the PT Cruiser has for the most part shown EXCEPTIONALLY good reliability, fit and finish, and overall quality. In the second place, its never been a "low-end" car, but a niche market vehicle. The Neon, Cirrus/Stratus, and now the Caliber are the "low end" cars." > > I upset a friend of mine, when discussing his PT quality problems. > > I said it is Chryslers low end car, which did upset him, but another [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > vehicle. The Neon, Cirrus/Stratus, and now the Caliber are the "low end" > cars." It's based on a low end car, simply dolled up. That won't make it a higher end car. It's problems illustrate that. >> For one thing, the PT Cruiser has for the most part shown EXCEPTIONALLY >> good reliability, fit and finish, and overall quality. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >> cars." > It's based on a low end car, simply dolled up. Please write 100 times on the blackboard: "The PT Cruiser is not built on a Neon platform" > That won't make it a higher end car. It's problems illustrate that. Except, of course, that your experience is far from the norm. > Please write 100 times on the blackboard: > > "The PT Cruiser is not built on a Neon platform" You need to open your mind to the sad facts on this troublesome car: http://www.ptcruiserproblems.com/ http://www.ptcruiserproblems.com/chrysler/pt_cruiser/pt_cruiser_problems_ the_full_story.htm http://www.carcomplaints.com/Chrysler/PT_Cruiser/2001/ http://www.ptcruizer.com/repairs-pt-cruiser.html http://askmeaboutmyptcruiser.blogspot.com/2004/08/lemon-law-step-1.html > > "The PT Cruiser is not built on a Neon platform" Are you trying to do a Bush on the facts? http://www.ptcruizer.com/ptcruiser-development.html > PT Cruiser Engineering > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > (the PT Cruiser is built on the Neon platform, as the original minivans were > built on the Reliant platform). >>>"The PT Cruiser is not built on a Neon platform" > > Are you trying to do a Bush on the facts? That depends on what the meaning of the word 'is' is, you moron. Bill Putney (To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my address with the letter 'x') >>>> "The PT Cruiser is not built on a Neon platform" >> >> Are you trying to do a Bush on the facts? > > That depends on what the meaning of the word 'is' is, you moron. Hey Joe - I just wanted to make sure you realize that my comment was not aimed at you. Bill Putney (To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my address with the letter 'x') > Hey Joe - I just wanted to make sure you realize that my comment was > not aimed at you. I didn't think so, but thanks for clarifying. >>>"The PT Cruiser is not built on a Neon platform" > [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] >> (the PT Cruiser is built on the Neon platform, as the original minivans were >> built on the Reliant platform). You'd trust a website that can't spell "Cruiser?" NONE of the "facts" above are correct. The original minivans weren't built on Reliant platforms, either. Agreed! http://www.3wheelers.com/robin.html :-) DAS For direct replies replace nospam with schmetterling --- [...] > The original minivans weren't built on Reliant platforms, either. >>Please write 100 times on the blackboard: >> >>"The PT Cruiser is not built on a Neon platform" > > You need to open your mind to the sad facts on this troublesome car: You need to open your mind to the sad fact that you can find websites exactly like those for ALL cars. Hell, there are probably more of them for sludge-engined Camrys and transmissionless Odysseys right now than there are for PTs! Mechanical things break. And nitwits that think they're somehow magically entitiled to never having a breakdown will write pissy blogs about it. >>>I upset a friend of mine, when discussing his PT quality problems. >>>I said it is Chryslers low end car, which did upset him, but another [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > It's based on a low end car, simply dolled up. > That won't make it a higher end car. It's problems illustrate that. The PT Cruiser is not based on ANYTHING. The PT Cruiser is one of the few vehicles made that is truly standalone platform, unrelated to anything else in the product line. And it has never been problem-plagued in any sense of the word. > The PT Cruiser is not based on ANYTHING. The PT Cruiser is one of the > few vehicles made that is truly standalone platform, unrelated to > anything else in the product line. And it has never been problem-plagued > in any sense of the word. Like my friend's PT which developed a problem with the fog light switch. They came on with their own schedule, and drained his battery. The dealer replaced the switch once, when it happened again my friend's dealer said there is no Chrysler fix for the problem; "just pull the fuse". Naturally my friend will avoid Chrysler vehicles in the future. >>The PT Cruiser is not based on ANYTHING. The PT Cruiser is one of the >>few vehicles made that is truly standalone platform, unrelated to [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > fuse". > Naturally my friend will avoid Chrysler vehicles in the future. Good riddance to anyone who'd let something as trivial as a fog light switch determine which car he wants to own. Go to the ChryslerLLC.com website and read the blog comments on the PT's alleged future demise. When I looked the other day, it was definitely AGAINST discontinuance. Plus lots of comments about reinstating Plymouth to get the lower cost vehicle sales that Chrysler needs. Unfortunately, there was comments about using the Chery vehicle with Plymouth nameplates and branding. So, unanimous support for a next-gen PT Cruiser and the return of Plymouth. We'll see what happens . . . Enjoy! C-BODY |
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