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Car Forum / Chrysler Cars / September 2007

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Questions about new Challenger:  engine options, how much Mercedes  content?

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MoPar Man` - 13 Sep 2007 04:48 GMT
Anyone know what engine and transmission options the upcoming
Challenger will have, and how much Mercedes content (suspension and
other stuff) it will have?

Will Chrysler show it at the 2008 Detroit auto show in January?  (did
they show it at previous auto shows?)

Anyone know how long Chrysler will continue to be using Daimler parts
in their cars?  Anyone seen the USD:Euro exchange rate lately?
NapalmHeart - 13 Sep 2007 09:50 GMT
> Anyone know what engine and transmission options the upcoming
> Challenger will have, and how much Mercedes content (suspension and
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> Anyone know how long Chrysler will continue to be using Daimler parts
> in their cars?  Anyone seen the USD:Euro exchange rate lately?

US$ to Euro was about $1.39/Euro 9-12-07.
Steve - 13 Sep 2007 19:39 GMT
> Anyone know what engine and transmission options the upcoming
> Challenger will have, and how much Mercedes content (suspension and
> other stuff) it will have?

Rumor and common sense both say it will share the exact same
engine/transmission options as the 300/Magnum/Charger, except that it
may not offer the 2.7 v6 but instead start with the 3.5. That would mean
3.5, 3.5HO (maybe only v6?) 5.7, and 6.2 Hemis. There's not really any
"Mercedes content" at all. Some of the suspension components are derived
from the general E-class Benz system, and the transmission for the v8s
(at least some versions of it) is Benz-derived but its both modified
from Benz production units and is built in Kokomo right next to all the
others. All the v6s get either a 4-speed version of the 42LE, or a
5-speed derivative similar to what's in the Pacifica except laid out for
rear-drive.

> Anyone know how long Chrysler will continue to be using Daimler parts
> in their cars?  

They never DID, other than the Common-Rail Diesel engine that briefly
appeared in the Jeep Liberty, and of course the Crossfire was totally
Benz other than the coachwork. Obviously they'll quit basing future
designs on Benz designs altogether, but there was NEVER a "common parts
bin" as some people seem to think.
kmath50@gmail.com - 14 Sep 2007 15:59 GMT
> > Anyone know what engine and transmission options the upcoming
> > Challenger will have, and how much Mercedes content (suspension and
[quoted text clipped - 20 lines]
> designs on Benz designs altogether, but there was NEVER a "common parts
> bin" as some people seem to think.

Will the Challenger be assembled in Brampton, Ontario along with the
Charger & Magnum?

-KM
Jalapeno - 14 Sep 2007 17:22 GMT
On Sep 14, 10:59 am, kmat...@gmail.com wrote:

> > > Anyone know what engine and transmission options the upcoming
> > > Challenger will have, and how much Mercedes content (suspension and
[quoted text clipped - 23 lines]
> Will the Challenger be assembled in Brampton, Ontario along with the
> Charger & Magnum?

http://www.dodge.com/en/2008/challenger/
http://www.dodgechallengercountdown.com/

PRESS RELEASE

February 13, 2007

Ontario to become home of the all-new 2008 Dodge Challenger

Brampton, Ontario plant will begin production in the spring of 2008
Plant will become Chrysler Group's first to build four different
models
DaimlerChrysler's commitment to Canada continues
Countdown begins for highly-anticipated sports coupe
Toronto, Ontario -

DaimlerChrysler announced today that the all-new 2008 Dodge Challenger
will be built at its Brampton Assembly Plant near Toronto.

"It's good news that the Dodge Challenger will be added to the
Canadian production line-up," said Reid Bigland, President and CEO of
DaimlerChrysler Canada. "Quickly bringing desirable new products such
as the Dodge Challenger to market is critical to keeping our plants
humming, and our dealerships busy."

The Brampton plant also produces Chrysler 300, Dodge Charger, and
Dodge Magnum and works on three shifts. The Windsor (Ontario) Assembly
Plant also works on three shifts and produces Dodge Grand Caravan and
Chrysler Town and Country minivans as well as Chrysler Pacifica.
Production of the Dodge Challenger will begin next year and
preparations to ready the plant are already underway.

"Brampton is our first plant to demonstrate the ability to build four
models on one line," said Frank Ewasyshyn, Executive Vice President -
Manufacturing, Chrysler Group. "As we continue to expand our new model
line-up and further implement our flexible manufacturing strategy,
other facilities will also have this capability."

Lean manufacturing and product development strategies also allow the
Chrysler Group to bring new models, like the Dodge Challenger, to
market more quickly. First revealed as a concept vehicle at the North
American International (Detroit) Auto Show in 2006, it was announced
this past summer that the 2008 Dodge Challenger would be going into
production in 2008.

Riding a wave of fan anticipation, a new clock will be on display
along with the Dodge Challenger concept car to count down to the
unveiling of the production version of the car at the Chicago Auto
Show next year. Today, the count-down clock shows 358 days.

"Our speed to market means that Challenger production is now measured
in only days," said George Murphy, Senior Vice President - Global
Marketing, Chrysler Group. "The ability to quickly react to ever-
changing consumer tastes is a competitive advantage for the company."

It will be just a little over two years from Dodge Challenger's
concept car introduction to the time it will be available in
dealerships.

The company has already seen passionate response to the Dodge
Challenger with its bold, powerful and capable attributes. Challenger
content received a total of 1.5 million visits on the Dodge.com
website in 2006 and 20,000 potential customers have asked the company
for more product information regarding the car.

The production version of the 2008 Dodge Challenger will be true to
both its historical and modern concept car roots as a two-door, HEMI?
V-8 powered, rear-drive vehicle. It will be the first coupe built on
Chrysler Group's highly successful large car platform which includes
the Chrysler 300, Dodge Charger and Dodge Magnum.

Source: DaimlerChrysler Media Services
Steve - 14 Sep 2007 18:58 GMT
> Will the Challenger be assembled in Brampton, Ontario along with the
> Charger & Magnum?

I've no idea. I'm wondering if its dead, or priority is bumped down
after the split from Daimler. A year ago the rumors were that it would
be heading into production probably mid-model-year 08, but I've not read
ANYTHING about it in several months.
Lloyd - 14 Sep 2007 19:58 GMT
> > Anyone know what engine and transmission options the upcoming
> > Challenger will have, and how much Mercedes content (suspension and
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
> They never DID, other than the Common-Rail Diesel engine that briefly
> appeared in the Jeep Liberty,

Actually, that was from VM, an Italian company.  But the 3.0 diesel V6
in the Grand Cherokee now IS an M-B engine.

>and of course the Crossfire was totally
> Benz other than the coachwork. Obviously they'll quit basing future
> designs on Benz designs altogether, but there was NEVER a "common parts
> bin" as some people seem to think.

Cruise control lever!  :-)
chryslerman@gmail.com - 17 Sep 2007 21:58 GMT
> > > Anyone know what engine and transmission options the upcoming
> > > Challenger will have, and how much Mercedes content (suspension and
[quoted text clipped - 27 lines]
>
> Cruise control lever!  :-)

Very few parts were sourced through or by MB (Daimler). The Cruise
Stalk, some wiring harness architecture are about the most DAIMLER
content. The Transmission is built in Indiana licensed to Chrysler
(and built by Chrysler employees) from an older (now unused) MB
design. The diesel engine that was in the Liberty was a VM engine as
noted. VM is now owned 50% by General Motors. The new Jeep Gd Cherokee
diesel is a 3.0L from MB. The 2.0L diesel in the Caliber is sourced
from Volkswagon.

Some of the suspension on the LX vehicles were derived from the last
generation E-Class (MB) but were adapted by Chrysler engineers to be
heavier and fit in the available space. MB parts were also made of
aluminum, which would be cost prohibitive for Chrysler, so the ones
made here are from steel.

There really was never a combined "Parts Bin" between Chrysler and MB.
Some general designs were shared, but each has made their own. But the
new upcoming "Phoenix" V-6's are a joint development. They are an
engine family of V-6's that will replace ALL Chrysler and ALL MB V-6
units. There will be common blocks of different displacement that will
be shared. (Similar to the arraingment between Chrysler-Mitsubishi-
Hyundai for the "World" I-4's)
 
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