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Car Forum / Chrysler Cars / May 2008Engine oil cooler line replacement?
Hello folks, I got a 2001 Concorde with the 3.2 engine. It's got an engine oil cooler in it and the supply line that connects the cooler (upper radiator) to the control valve is leaking. Is this a hard thing to replace myself? Would it be wise for me to use an old line off of a used car? The new line is very expensive from Chrysler dealers! Any other comments or pointers on this is greatly appreciated Thank you. Possibly the transmission fluid (not engine oil) cooler line? I've not replaced one on your model/year, but did so on an older LH body since it too was leaking. I bought the part at the dealer and the part was about $50. Installation was not too difficult. I figured any old part would likely be prone to the same issue. In addition, $50 just wasn't worth the effort of pulling it at a salvage yard. Bob > Hello folks, > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Any other comments or pointers on this is greatly appreciated Thank you. I think Bob may be right about it being the transmission cooler line. They have screw clamps on those lines - usually it's a matter of tightening the clamps back up rather than a hole in the line. (I own two 2nd gen. Concordes.) That would cost $zero. Bill Putney (To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my address with the letter 'x') > Possibly the transmission fluid (not engine oil) cooler line? I've not > replaced one on your model/year, but did so on an older LH body since it too [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] >> >> Any other comments or pointers on this is greatly appreciated Thank you. Bill, thank you too. As I explained to Bob, I have the optional engine oil cooler in my car and these are engine oil lines. > I think Bob may be right about it being the transmission cooler line. They > have screw clamps on those lines - usually it's a matter of tightening the [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] >>> >>> Any other comments or pointers on this is greatly appreciated Thank you. > Bill, thank you too. > [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > >>> > >>> Any other comments or pointers on this is greatly appreciated Thank you. The lines you are referring to have to be replaced if they are leaking, They can not be fixed. When they leak, it is normally severe. I wouldn't pay more the 2.0hrs to have them installed Glenn Beasley Chrysler Tech Max, I ordered the line yesterday, I am going to give it a shot myself..I think it is a straight forward replacement. Thanks. >> Bill, thank you too. >> [quoted text clipped - 50 lines] > Glenn Beasley > Chrysler Tech > The lines you are referring to have to be replaced if they are leaking, They > can not be fixed. When they leak, it is normally severe. I wouldn't pay more > the 2.0hrs to have them installed > > Glenn Beasley > Chrysler Tech Glen Do these lines appear on any other 2001 Chrysler vehicles? Like maybe my 2001 LHS? Thanks Bob AZ > > The lines you are referring to have to be replaced if they are leaking, They > > can not be fixed. When they leak, it is normally severe. I wouldn't pay more [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > Thanks > Bob AZ Bob, if you gave me the last 8 of your vin # I could tell you if your vehicle is equipped with an oil cooler Glenn > > Do these lines appear on any other 2001 Chrysler vehicles? Like maybe > > my 2001 LHS? [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Bob, �if you gave me the last 8 of your vin # I could tell you if your > vehicle is equipped with an oil cooler Glenn 1H580394 Thanks Bob AZ > > Do these lines appear on any other 2001 Chrysler vehicles? Like maybe > > my 2001 LHS? [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Bob, ?if you gave me the last 8 of your vin # I could tell you if your > vehicle is equipped with an oil cooler Glenn 1H580394 Thanks Bob Bob, It does not specify. If you did have it, you would see both lines running down the passenger side radiator. One line will go to the passenger side oil pan and the other to the oil filter adapter. Glenn Thanks Bob. It is actually engine oil cooler lines. The transmission cooler lines or on the other side (left side of the radiator), the engine cooler line or on the right side of the radiator. I was at the dealer yesterday and they said it was engine oil and I said the same thing you said but they explained that some of these Concorde models came with an optional engine oil cooler. BTW, the wanted $480 to replace the 2 lines, I can't tell you what I said but you'd probably figure that out yourself. Thanks again. > Possibly the transmission fluid (not engine oil) cooler line? I've not > replaced one on your model/year, but did so on an older LH body since it [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] >> >> Any other comments or pointers on this is greatly appreciated Thank you. > Hello folks, > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Any other comments or pointers on this is greatly appreciated Thank you. Where and how is it leaking? If this is a steel tube (which it really should be) and there is a crack or some such in the tubing itself, then take the tube off and take it to a radiator shop and have them braise the crack or hole. Ted Ted, This line is part steel, part rubber and it is leaking right at the joint between the steel and rubber part, I don't think it could be fixed. It has to be replaced as Maxpower suggested. Thanks. >> Hello folks, >> [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > Ted > Ted, > > This line is part steel, part rubber and it is leaking right at the joint > between the steel and rubber part, I don't think it could be fixed. It has > to be replaced as Maxpower suggested. Thanks. Ugh, what a stupid design. Running pressurized, hot engine oil through a flexible rubber line is just asking for trouble. It's bad enough doing it with power steering fluid but if a PS line bursts, your steering just gets more difficult. If this line bursts, unless you shut your engine down immediately, you spin a bearing. Ted >> Ted, >> [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Ted You're connecting from an engine, that of course moves around a little, to a rigid chassis-mounted cooler. Would there be fatigue problems with metal lines, even corrugated ones of affordable materials? Bill Putney (To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my address with the letter 'x') >>> Ted, >>> [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > a rigid chassis-mounted cooler. Would there be fatigue problems with > metal lines, even corrugated ones of affordable materials? Correct answer would be to use braided stainless steel covered lines (like race cars use). Unfortunately, the companies are run by the bean counters, not the engineers... > >> Ted, > >> [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > to a rigid chassis-mounted cooler. Would there be fatigue problems with > metal lines, even corrugated ones of affordable materials? All of the old Ford cars that ran a C-4 used steel lines to connect the trans cooler to the trans, no flex line involved. In any case, since this oil cooler is an add-on option, the expense should not be an issue since the customer has to pay extra for it. Ted > ...In any case, since > this oil cooler is an add-on option, the expense should not be an issue > since the customer has to pay extra for it. You're obviously not an MBA! :) Bill Putney (To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my address with the letter 'x') > > ...In any case, since > > this oil cooler is an add-on option, the expense should not be an issue > > since the customer has to pay extra for it. > > You're obviously not an MBA! :) Heh. Keep in mind that when the automakers cheapen down the add-on accessories, word gets out and people stop buying them. Of course, the temptation is great for the MBA's to find some way to cheapen down the design and in the past a lot of automakers have given in to temptation (Ford with it's disintegrating plastic intake manifolds, for example) but while they often get away with it on the required parts of the vehicle, more times than not when they do it to the accessories it burns them. For example the auto aftermarket radio industry wouldn't exist if automakers hadn't cut corners on car radios, and the radio is a very high margin and profitable accessory for an automaker. Ted |
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