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9 Electric Cars 100 Years Old or More

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jolly - 14 Jul 2009 12:09 GMT
9 Electric Cars 100 Years Old or More
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Some O - 14 Jul 2009 18:48 GMT
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Back in the early 80s the postal home delivery in a UK village I visited
used an electric van.
By the 90s that was changed to a diesel.
I always wondered why?
Dori A Schmetterling - 14 Jul 2009 19:22 GMT
Cheaper?

Of course our (UK) milk floats are still all electric.

DAS

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> Back in the early 80s the postal home delivery in a UK village I visited
> used an electric van.
> By the 90s that was changed to a diesel.
> I always wondered why?
Some O - 16 Jul 2009 01:37 GMT
There is still home delivery of milk in the UK?
Ours in the Vancouver, BC area disappeared over 10 years ago.

> Cheaper?
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> > By the 90s that was changed to a diesel.
> > I always wondered why?
Dori A Schmetterling - 16 Jul 2009 20:44 GMT
Yep.

But I suspect it's declining.  I used to have it until the delivery company
(a small franchisee in the end, after having been unloaded by the dairy)
stopped coming to our area or folded a few years ago.  The milkman was very
inefficient anyway.  As many do, he also delivered other goods like orange
juice, bread and certain vegetables.  And his billing was erratic, so his
cash flow was probably erratic.

I asked for a price list several times but none came.  (Well, I left him
notes on the doorstep - there was no way of communicating with him except by
a phone that took only messages to which he never replied...)

More recently our big dairies have amalgamated and still support home
delivery.  There is even a fancy website where you can register.  Well, I
tried phoning (speaking to some customer services person) and the web, and
even speaking to a milkman doing commercial rounds (to shops).  All promised
me to start a service... but nothing happens.  Businesses like that are
likely to go under....

So I still have to shlep milk from the supermarket.... The consolation is
that it is cheaper (from the supermarket).

Anyway, electric milk floats (vehicles) are used by the dairies for
commercial deliveries.

Dig this:

http://www.milkfloats.org.uk/

Three and four-wheelers... And no, we don't have any hand-pulled ones
anymore.

Nice one outside parliament in London

http://www.milkfloats.org.uk/random4.html

DAS

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> Ours in the Vancouver, BC area disappeared over 10 years ago.
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>> > By the 90s that was changed to a diesel.
>> > I always wondered why?
Bill Putney - 17 Jul 2009 00:08 GMT
> ...Dig this:
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> http://www.milkfloats.org.uk/random4.html

I would think those would prove to be rather nostalgic for those who
grew up with them running around the neighborhood.

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Some O - 17 Jul 2009 09:02 GMT
> More recently our big dairies have amalgamated and still support home
> delivery.  There is even a fancy website where you can register.  Well, I
> tried phoning (speaking to some customer services person) and the web, and
> even speaking to a milkman doing commercial rounds (to shops).  All promised
> me to start a service... but nothing happens.  Businesses like that are
> likely to go under....

Or they are forced by local Gov to provide that home delivery, but they
really don't want it to grow.
Dori A Schmetterling - 17 Jul 2009 20:06 GMT
Is this a fact?  News to me.

Certainly fresh milk consumption would decline even faster if home
deliveries were abolished.

Relevant article from 2006:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/4850336.stm

And don't ask me why these vehicles are called milk floats.  Apparently lost
in the mists of time, according to that website I posted previously.

DAS

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> Or they are forced by local Gov to provide that home delivery, but they
> really don't want it to grow.
Bill Putney - 17 Jul 2009 22:50 GMT
> ...And don't ask me why these vehicles are called milk floats.  Apparently lost
> in the mists of time, according to that website I posted previously.

Gotta wonder if the source of the term is the same as the things that
are used to haul displays around in parades (at least in the U.S. that's
what the term means).  Maybe derived from some water-bourne vehicles
(small barges, floats) that eventually evolved to wheeled land vehicles?

Dori - my email spell checker wants to change your last name to
'chitterlings'.

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Dori A Schmetterling - 18 Jul 2009 10:05 GMT
Re float: Indeed.  Valid speculation.  Apparently tehre were some references
to coal floats.

Chitterlings - marvellous!  "plural noun the smaller intestines of a pig,
cooked for food."

:-)
DAS

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>> Apparently lost in the mists of time, according to that website I posted
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> Dori - my email spell checker wants to change your last name to
> 'chitterlings'.
Bill Putney - 18 Jul 2009 13:44 GMT
> Re float: Indeed.  Valid speculation.  Apparently tehre were some references
> to coal floats.
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> :-)
> DAS

Hah!  And just so you know, the "correct" pronunciation is "chittlins".
 Didn't want you to embarrass yourself if you're ever over here and go
to use the word to impress the locals with your knowledge of fine
dining. :) They're considered a great southern delicacy.

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Dori A Schmetterling - 18 Jul 2009 17:11 GMT
Thank you for this cultural advice, which I take on board and shall use to
save myself embarassment...

Regrettably haven't been to the South for years.  Unless you call Tombstone
"South"...visited in Dec 06...together with Tucson.

:-))
DAS

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> Hah!  And just so you know, the "correct" pronunciation is "chittlins".
> Didn't want you to embarrass yourself if you're ever over here and go to
> use the word to impress the locals with your knowledge of fine dining. :)
> They're considered a great southern delicacy.
miles - 18 Jul 2009 15:21 GMT
> There is still home delivery of milk in the UK?
> Ours in the Vancouver, BC area disappeared over 10 years ago.

It's been 20 years since they stopped in most areas here.  Prior to that
it was common to have to drive 10-20 miles to go food shopping.  With a
stay at home mom and a few kids to load into the car and going to get
milk several times a week was a bit much.  Now theres a food store or
convenience market mile or less of most peoples homes.  They still
deliver to home on the outskirts of town.
 
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