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Car Forum / Citroen Cars / January 2007

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New C5 1.6HDi 16V LX Estate Burning smell

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mrgent@gmail.com - 27 Dec 2005 18:44 GMT
Ive recently purchased a Citroen C5 Diesel Estate, (heavily discounted
managers special !!!!!)
it  now has 250 mile on the clock ive driven only short distances over
the last week.

On a couple of occasions when leaving the car after driving ive noticed
a light burning smell. ive assumed as all is new there must be some oil
or grease say on the exhaust being burnt off.

Today (Tuesday 27th Dec 05) something strange happend. ## a cold day 2
degrees centigrade indicated on the dash##  I drove 5 mile and parked
up to shop, and noticed a roaring sound as i opened the car door, the
main radiator fan was going full belt and there was a VERY VERY strong
electrical burning smell. I lifted the bonnet but could see nothing.
Got back in the car started it, checked the engine temperature the
needle pointing to straight down "6 oclock position" Normal, but still
a strong burning smell. I turned the engine off but the fan was still
going full belt, the burning smell now seems to have gone, I decided to
drive along to the citroen garage 3 mile away, all the time the fan
still running fast, when i got there the garage was closed so returned
back to the car park where i had started, the fan still going. I got
out of the car locked it but the fan was still going strong (bear in
mind it is 2 Deg C outside and i have not been stuck in traffic and the
engine temperature needle indicates the engine is normal, SO WHY IS THE
FAN RUNNING). Worried that with the engine off and the fan running the
battery would flatten i started the car and sat in it, I ran through
the Diagnostic check accessable from the control panel, it showed no
faults and passed whatever checks it does. After say 3 minutes then the
fan stopped.

I have driven the car for short journeys since without problem.

It is possible the smell was brought to my attention because the fan
was running and therefore directing the smell towards me i would have
otherwise not noticed the smell assuming the smell is nothing to worry
about.
But why was the fan running on a very cold day when the car has just
driven continuosly a couple of mile at 30 mph barring one stop a
traffic lights. And continue to run for nearly 15 minutes.

Im looking for advice of similar experiences please

Thank you

micgent
Brian - 28 Dec 2005 09:34 GMT
> Ive recently purchased a Citroen C5 Diesel Estate, (heavily discounted
> managers special !!!!!)
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> micgent

New car, get it back to the dealer as soon as you can. It's their problem.
This cannot be considered normal.
micgent - 31 Dec 2005 17:24 GMT
Took it back to the dealer, the fan problem they are aware of, there is
a software update which prevents the fan from running on when engine
stopped. This update was carried out a couple of days ago now and yes
it has cured the fan problem. The same time they inspected the
underside for anything that may be burning but nothing found. since the
fan upgrade ive not noticed the smell.

Apart from that the car is superb, having said that i am comparing it
with my old Seat Vario 1.9tdi X reg.

THANKS

micgent
tva - 04 Jan 2007 23:10 GMT
Hi all,

I just got to this topic and it caught my attention because I had EXACTLY the
same experience. Details are: C5 1.6HDi Break, ORGA 10763 (manufactured Apr
28, 2006), central European customization, bought Dec 6, 2006 at very good
discount, too.

The thing happend to me twice, engine after (at least) 30km drive, last 5km
before stop driving at steady speed about 50kmh. It had less than 2000km on
the clock. Ambient temperature just little over zero.

First time it started fan at full power and kept running it for about 5
minutes, strong burning smell coming out. Then I opened the hood and the fan
went off within few seconds. Second time it took about two minutes before cut-
off, but smell was too bad, actually I was just going to check for nearest
fire extinguisher...

Now I put another 1000kms on it and so far didn't repeat.

There are two more observations:
- I had set up "A/C off" in the Aircon menu (one-zone automatic conditioner)
in both cases
- after the fan went off I checked radiator, it was freezing cold (of course)
and when I started engine afterwards the temperature needle went slowly from
"6 o'clock position" to about 7 o'clock, just little above blue section.

Technical documentation for C5 says the post-cooling may be run on the 1st
stage (my was running 3rd for sure) during 6 minutes after engine off if
water temperature is over 106 C (it surely wasn't in my case)... When I asked
at my Citroen garage where my good friend is head of service he just told me
it's normal.

Will observe more on this topic.

There's another thing making me worry with this car: when I unlock the car I
can see high brake light lit very mildly (can be only seen in the night). The
light would only go off when car enters economy mode. It's not easy to check
with similar cars because C5 Break is very rare model over here but the two
particular Breaks I had chance to drive behind were doing the same.
 
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