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citroen Ax overcharging

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Mindwipe - 19 Feb 2006 22:06 GMT
have checked connections to alternator and have changed them anyway
its kicking out 17 volts at idle and 19 volts at 2500 rpm
suspect the volage regulator is at fault
local factors want £60 for an exchange alternator and cant find anyone who
stocks voltage regulators
any one found a stockist for volatage regulators
Paul Halliday - 19 Feb 2006 23:31 GMT
> have checked connections to alternator and have changed them anyway
> its kicking out 17 volts at idle and 19 volts at 2500 rpm
> suspect the volage regulator is at fault
> local factors want £60 for an exchange alternator and cant find anyone who
> stocks voltage regulators
> any one found a stockist for volatage regulators

Hi Jeff - Have you tried GSF?
<http://www.gsfcarparts.com/>

There's one on Cutler Heights Lane between Leeds & Bradford, close to the
top of Wakefield Road in Bradford.
Mindwipe - 20 Feb 2006 18:50 GMT
> in article hsKdnV3EB5h6dmXeRVnyvA@pipex.net, Mindwipe at
> jeffinleeds@nospam
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
> There's one on Cutler Heights Lane between Leeds & Bradford, close to the
> top of Wakefield Road in Bradford.

yes i have tried them and also euro carparts
cheapest so far however is andrew page at £55
Brian - 20 Feb 2006 18:36 GMT
> have checked connections to alternator and have changed them anyway
> its kicking out 17 volts at idle and 19 volts at 2500 rpm
> suspect the volage regulator is at fault
> local factors want £60 for an exchange alternator and cant find anyone who
> stocks voltage regulators
> any one found a stockist for volatage regulators

You don't say which make alternator, but I have found that several
auto-electrical specialists will stock regulators, though I must admit I
have not looked recently. Last time all I wanted was a pair of brushes, but
I had to buy the regulator as well as it was all one part. As you can get
exchange units, the parts must be available.
Certainly the fault you describe points to the regulator, but it "could"
just be a broken wire in the sensing feed to the reg. which would possibly
be inside the unit.
Mindwipe - 20 Feb 2006 18:45 GMT
>> have checked connections to alternator and have changed them anyway
>> its kicking out 17 volts at idle and 19 volts at 2500 rpm
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
> just be a broken wire in the sensing feed to the reg. which would possibly
> be inside the unit.

its a valeo
Mindwipe - 20 Feb 2006 18:48 GMT
>> have checked connections to alternator and have changed them anyway
>> its kicking out 17 volts at idle and 19 volts at 2500 rpm
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
> just be a broken wire in the sensing feed to the reg. which would possibly
> be inside the unit.

looks to me like you describe it
the unit comes off the side with the brushes attached
problem i have is finding a dealer for the regulator
Brian - 20 Feb 2006 23:45 GMT
> looks to me like you describe it
> the unit comes off the side with the brushes attached
> problem i have is finding a dealer for the regulator

Don't know where you are, but have you looked in your local Yellow Pages
under Car Electrics.
Just done a search,
http://www.btinternet.com/~volkzpartz/starters.htm
http://www.2cvcity.co.uk/parts.html
And on the GSF forum, I found this.
Valeo Alternator reg. GSF # 91035 £19.00 + vat
URL http://www.gsfcarparts.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=1088
I think this might be the VW section, but Valeo parts are most likely
interchangable
Adrian - 21 Feb 2006 14:59 GMT
> http://www.2cvcity.co.uk/parts.html
> And on the GSF forum, I found this.
> Valeo Alternator reg. GSF # 91035 £19.00 + vat
> URL http://www.gsfcarparts.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=1088
> I think this might be the VW section, but Valeo parts are most likely
> interchangable

I dunno about the GSF one, but a 2cv one certainly won't fit - 2cvs use an
external VR, whereas the AX uses one built in to the alternator.
Mindwipe - 21 Feb 2006 20:21 GMT
>> http://www.2cvcity.co.uk/parts.html
>> And on the GSF forum, I found this.
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> I dunno about the GSF one, but a 2cv one certainly won't fit - 2cvs use an
> external VR, whereas the AX uses one built in to the alternator.

thanks for the advice guys
so looks like the best avenue for me now is to get the I.D numbers off my
alternator and get in touch with gsf
guy on that forum said £19 for a reg/brush assy which is less than my local
scrappy wants for a bosch one off a 106 1.1 (he wants £30 btw)
Mindwipe - 23 Feb 2006 21:16 GMT
>> http://www.2cvcity.co.uk/parts.html
>> And on the GSF forum, I found this.
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> I dunno about the GSF one, but a 2cv one certainly won't fit - 2cvs use an
> external VR, whereas the AX uses one built in to the alternator.

rang Gsf today they dont do one for mine just an alternator for £60
Mindwipe - 23 Feb 2006 21:17 GMT
>> http://www.2cvcity.co.uk/parts.html
>> And on the GSF forum, I found this.
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> I dunno about the GSF one, but a 2cv one certainly won't fit - 2cvs use an
> external VR, whereas the AX uses one built in to the alternator.
very much tempted to go to maplins and buy parts to make an external one
Brian - 22 Feb 2006 11:15 GMT
> have checked connections to alternator and have changed them anyway
> its kicking out 17 volts at idle and 19 volts at 2500 rpm
> suspect the volage regulator is at fault
> local factors want £60 for an exchange alternator and cant find anyone who
> stocks voltage regulators
> any one found a stockist for volatage regulators

This is the definitive place, stocks everything.
http://www.woodauto.com/

Wood Auto Supplies Ltd
Cromwell Works
Colne Road
Huddersfield
HD1 3ES
United Kingdom

Head Office:
Telephone: 01484 428261
Fax: 01484 434933
Email: sales@woodauto.co.uk

UK Sales:
Telephone: 01484 439000
Freefax: 0800 137012

Knew I had seen it somewhere.
Mindwipe - 23 Feb 2006 21:16 GMT
>> have checked connections to alternator and have changed them anyway
>> its kicking out 17 volts at idle and 19 volts at 2500 rpm
[quoted text clipped - 24 lines]
>
> Knew I had seen it somewhere.

have emailed them to see if they deal without a trade account
Mindwipe - 24 Feb 2006 22:35 GMT
>> have checked connections to alternator and have changed them anyway
>> its kicking out 17 volts at idle and 19 volts at 2500 rpm
[quoted text clipped - 24 lines]
>
> Knew I had seen it somewhere.

it at first seemed to be account only so i emailed them
got a reply today about it and have emailed graham with my needs
fingers crossed
btw i did ring GSF but they dont do one for my model only citroen reg they
do is for the deux cheveux

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