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Car Forum / Citroen Cars / March 2006C5 Indicators
Hello, I have a 52 plate C5. It's a 1.8 LX Petrol. I have had it for 2 years now, and have had very few problems with it, until now ! The problem I have is that the Left indicator only works intermittently. There seems to be no pattern to it, just that sometimes it comes on and other times it doesn't. I've had it in to the garage, but they can find nothing wrong with it. (although I believe they simply checked the bulb / connector etc) If I put the hazards on, it works everytime, so I know the bulb etc is fine. Also the Right indicator is always fine, so I doubt it is something major on the electrical side of things. I have no clue about cars really, but I can only assume it's something at the indicator end of the car (i.e. inside the steering unit) as opposed to where the bulbs are. Can anyone shed any light on what might me causing this, and whether it is an easy fix please ? Thank you. J. > Hello, > [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] > > J. that would have me looking at the contacts on the indicator stalk. intermittent inidcator faults are a known issue on citroens, ime.  SignatureStop The Badger Cull - Respond by the 10th March http://www.stopthecull.info/emaildefra.php > that would have me looking at the contacts on the indicator stalk. Agreed > intermittent inidcator faults are a known issue on citroens, ime. Are they? Not on my last four over 300K miles...... :o) Alan SignatureWarning! - This newsgroup may contain nuts.... Mail sent to this address might get read....Eventually >> that would have me looking at the contacts on the indicator stalk. > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Alan lucky you ! the last 2 x ZX's and one BX all had the clicky indicator issue. luckily my xantia hasn't. yet. even in midwinter. fingers crossed :-( SignatureStop The Badger Cull - Respond by the 10th March http://www.stopthecull.info/emaildefra.php >>>that would have me looking at the contacts on the indicator stalk. >> [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > lucky you ! the last 2 x ZX's and one BX all had the clicky indicator issue. > luckily my xantia hasn't. yet. even in midwinter. fingers crossed :-( Maybe I am. I've had 2 BXs and 2 Xantias and they've been the most reliable cars I've ever had (That's torn it - Ed). Current Xant (SX TD) has done 122K miles and has only been off the road once, when the dreaded clutch cable clip broke. On a Sunday afternoon. The day before a bank-holiday Monday...... Alan Apologies to the OP for thread hijack :o) SignatureWarning! - This newsgroup may contain nuts.... Mail sent to this address might get read....Eventually >>>> that would have me looking at the contacts on the indicator stalk. >>> [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > dreaded clutch cable clip broke. On a Sunday afternoon. The day > before a bank-holiday Monday...... nightmare ! my xantia has just passed 95k, I bought it at 77k and the clutch was done at 60 ish so I'm hoping that the cable clip was done. haven't checked - "(That's torn it - Ed)" yup ... :D saw a Xantia taxi in my local citroen specialists with 300k on it. > Alan > > Apologies to the OP for thread hijack :o) SignatureStop The Badger Cull - Respond by the 10th March http://www.stopthecull.info/emaildefra.php > nightmare ! my xantia has just passed 95k, Barely run-in :o) > I bought it at 77k and the clutch was done at 60 ish Had mine from new, clip went at 78k. Still on original clutch and cable.... > so I'm hoping that the cable clip was done. > haven't checked - "(That's torn it - Ed)" yup ... :D The original clips are black, replacements are white (and much stronger). One trick if you have to replace the clip is remove the 'spring' canister from the back of the *brake* pedal. It can be a tight fit, but will pull out (It's the bit that pushes on the brake doseur valve). With it removed, the brake pedal drops to the floor and usually gives enough clearance to get the clutch pedal pivot bolt out without resorting to the hacksaw :o) > saw a Xantia taxi in my local citroen specialists with 300k on it. TDs last a long time if you don't let the radiator silt up and overheat..... Alan SignatureWarning! - This newsgroup may contain nuts.... Mail sent to this address might get read....Eventually >> nightmare ! my xantia has just passed 95k, > > Barely run-in :o) yup. still giving high 40's on the mpg >> I bought it at 77k and the clutch was done at 60 ish > [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > resorting to > the hacksaw :o) I'll bear that in mind, thanks. saved for future reference. >> saw a Xantia taxi in my local citroen specialists with 300k on it. > > TDs last a long time if you don't let the radiator silt up and > overheat..... > > Alan correct grade antifreeze has been used and sometime this year it will be flushed. the temp rerely goes above 80 even on the hottest day of last year, stuck in traffic for an hour. yesterday it was hovering just above 60 so cooling efficiency seems pretty good. next job is to flush and replace the LHM and return filters, etc. > Maybe I am. I've had 2 BXs and 2 Xantias and they've been the most > reliable cars I've ever had (That's torn it - Ed). Current Xant (SX TD) [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Apologies to the OP for thread hijack :o) I just changed the clutch cable clip on my Xantia, was it just my bad luck or did they put the nut and bolt, in the clutch pedal pivot the wrong way round on all Xantias? The bolt had to come out of the pivot towards the brake pedal which was conveniently in the way, floor it or pull it right up. One hack saw and a strong man to pull on the brake pedal and all was well again:-) Mark. >>Maybe I am. I've had 2 BXs and 2 Xantias and they've been the most >>reliable cars I've ever had (That's torn it - Ed). Current Xant (SX TD) [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > or did they put the nut and bolt, in the clutch pedal pivot the wrong way > round on all Xantias? As far as I know, they're all put in the wrong way. One thing you need to remember is when they built the Xantia, they started with the heater matrix, then the pedal assembly and added the rest later :o) Dashboard out job to replace the heater, say 8-10 hours! > The bolt had to come out of the pivot towards the brake pedal which was > conveniently in the way, floor it or pull it right up. One hack saw and a > strong man to pull on the brake pedal and all was well again:-) See my reply to '.' for my method. Doesn't always work, maybe the carpet/underlay is thicker on some models...... Alan SignatureWarning! - This newsgroup may contain nuts.... Mail sent to this address might get read....Eventually >>>Maybe I am. I've had 2 BXs and 2 Xantias and they've been the most >>>reliable cars I've ever had (That's torn it - Ed). Current Xant (SX TD) [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > > Alan Heh.. Glad it just wasn't me that had to suffer....Bolt is in the right way round now though, so it shouldn't be a problem in the future, even if the new improved black clip does give way again.... Mark... >> that would have me looking at the contacts on the indicator stalk. > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Alan The C5 uses different stalks to the older Citroens and they are multiplexed. I guess you need a new stalk. Not cheap though. >>> that would have me looking at the contacts on the indicator stalk. >> [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > The C5 uses different stalks to the older Citroens and they are > multiplexed. I guess you need a new stalk. Not cheap though. I'd be tempted to strip and bodge / mod / diy with a soldering iron. SignatureStop The Badger Cull - Respond by the 10th March http://www.stopthecull.info/emaildefra.php > Hello, > [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > > J. This is a common problem on the earlier C5 - it's due to a faulty 'com2000' unit - this is the main 'multplex' unit that sits behind the steering wheel and controls all the stalks functions. I've had exaclty the same problem on my 02 plate C5 SX estate, not cheap to replace ~250GBP IRC, but only takes around 20 minutes so can be done while you wait. Another common problem around that area is sticking 'padles' on the cruise control stalk, this is ~25GBP for the parts, if you have cruise control I would be inclined to replace this at the same time. I kept my old 'com2000' and found that with a little fiddling about you can open it up and gain complete access to the insides, the actual switch part for the indicators is just a small metal rectangle with a couple of contacts on, I have not tried this yet but I think that bending the contacts slightly should cure the problem. Knowing what I do now with regard to the 'comm2000' unit, I might have been inclined to try and find an auto electrician that would be willing to take the unit apart and try and fix it, rather that paying 250 + labour. Hope this helps. Regards Ian Thank you very much to you all - this helps me immensely. Cheers. J. > > Hello, > > [quoted text clipped - 57 lines] > > Ian |
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