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C6 on BBC TV "Top Gear"
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Whiskers - 04 Jun 2006 23:31 GMT .-----<http://www.topgear.com/content/tgonbbc2/>
| [...] | Odds-on favourite | For years, the BBC used an old Citroen CX to film all its horse racing | coverage. To find out if the new C6 is as soft riding, Jeremy took it to a | race meeting and strapped a camera to the roof. Let's hope the punters | aren't put out by this French thoroughbred. | | Style counsel | The Citroen C6, Porsche's 911 Turbo, Aston's V8 and the new Peugeot 207 | all make an appearance on the Cool Wall this week. All French superminis | are cool, says Jeremy, but will the new Pug make the grade? | [...] '-----
Although the C6 failed to meet all of Jeremy Clarkson's expectations of 'French madness', he was suitably impressed by the smoothness and road-holding. It performed well as a substitute for the ageing CX used to carry the TV camera (on it's roof) alongside the horses - for comparison a BMW 5-Series shook the camera about so much that it was useless.
The car also found it's way into the 'very cool' band on the 'cool wall'. (The Peugeot didn't).
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2Rowdy - 05 Jun 2006 00:05 GMT I was reading <news:ij3cl3-fvu.ln1@ID-107770.user.individual.net>, made by the entity known as Whiskers, that requests spam to be sent to <catwheezel@operamail.com> and I became inspired,
> .-----<http://www.topgear.com/content/tgonbbc2/> [C6]
> The car also found it's way into the 'very cool' band on the 'cool > wall'. (The Peugeot didn't). I'm clicking like mad but I can't find the link. Where is the 'very cool' band located. I want to see the C6 on it.
I've seen the C6 a week ago. Life and real. I touched it, then saw the price tag, e76,000. I'll dream on.
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Rodney Wakefield - 05 Jun 2006 08:00 GMT The message <c4ff5224bf63db550b89e4816593152c@nntp.aacity.net> from "2Rowdy" <Harry131313@gmail.com> contains these words:
> I'm clicking like mad but I can't find the link. Where is the 'very > cool' band located It's in the Studio! You need to watch the prog to appreciate it...
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Whiskers - 05 Jun 2006 13:20 GMT > The message <c4ff5224bf63db550b89e4816593152c@nntp.aacity.net> > from "2Rowdy" <Harry131313@gmail.com> contains these words: [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > It's in the Studio! You need to watch the prog to appreciate it... sorry :((
There is <http://www.bbc.co.uk/topgear/coolwall.shtml> but that seems to be slightly out of date at present - the C6 is not shown there yet. <http://www.bbc.co.uk/topgear/thisweek.shtml> is an up-to-date summary of the latest show, including a brief bit on the C6.
You can even get the whole show piped to you if you can get the multimedia streaming thing working for you (I can't).
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2Rowdy - 07 Jun 2006 10:38 GMT I was reading <news:96kdl3-7ik.ln1@ID-107770.user.individual.net>, made by the entity known as Whiskers, that requests spam to be sent to <catwheezel@operamail.com> and I became inspired,
>> The message <c4ff5224bf63db550b89e4816593152c@nntp.aacity.net> >> from "2Rowdy" <Harry131313@gmail.com> contains these words: [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > sorry :(( Pitty
> <http://www.bbc.co.uk/topgear/thisweek.shtml> is an > up-to-date summary of the latest show, including a brief bit on the > C6. Extremely brief.
> You can even get the whole show piped to you if you can get the > multimedia streaming thing working for you (I can't). It rarely works out here.
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Eduardo K. - 09 Jun 2006 13:31 GMT >> You can even get the whole show piped to you if you can get the >> multimedia streaming thing working for you (I can't). > >It rarely works out here. Here it is in youtube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mpuPGkikm2I&search=c6%20top%20gear
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2Rowdy - 12 Jun 2006 12:47 GMT I was reading <news:e6bpmp$la0$1@puff.nn.cl>, made by the entity known as Eduardo K., that requests spam to be sent to <e-arroba-nn-punto-cl@no.spam.cl> and I became inspired,
>>> You can even get the whole show piped to you if you can get the >>> multimedia streaming thing working for you (I can't). [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mpuPGkikm2I&search=c6%20top%20gear Great ! It worked.
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. - 05 Jun 2006 09:12 GMT > I was reading <news:ij3cl3-fvu.ln1@ID-107770.user.individual.net>, > made by the entity known as Whiskers, that requests spam to be sent to [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > price tag, e76,000. > I'll dream on. one day, I'll have a C6.
Whiskers - 05 Jun 2006 13:28 GMT >> I was reading <news:ij3cl3-fvu.ln1@ID-107770.user.individual.net>, >> made by the entity known as Whiskers, that requests spam to be sent to [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > one day, I'll have a C6. Yes, me too. Well, who can tell ...
I've been lusting after a DS for almost as long as I can remember. The first sight of that, in a world filled with Austin 7s and Standard 10s and Morris Minors, was like seeing a space ship from a galaxy far far away.
Meanwhile, If I'm very lucky I might get a C1 to replace my battered ZX. One day.
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Dave Ryman - 07 Jun 2006 00:54 GMT >>> I was reading <news:ij3cl3-fvu.ln1@ID-107770.user.individual.net>, >>> made by the entity known as Whiskers, that requests spam to be sent [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > Meanwhile, If I'm very lucky I might get a C1 to replace my battered > ZX. One day. Forget the C1. Get a C2/C3.
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Whiskers - 07 Jun 2006 16:10 GMT snip
>> Meanwhile, If I'm very lucky I might get a C1 to replace my battered >> ZX. One day. > > Forget the C1. Get a C2/C3. Price and availability will probably be the prime consideration. I'm 'on benefits' so if I don't choose my timing well, I may end up with something not even a Citroen - if I manage to continue car ownership at all.
The attractions of the C1 are that it's not expensive even brand new, and that it's small enough for convenient urban use and offers excellent fuel economy. I might even manage a newish 5-door, which would be more popular with my occasional passengers than the current 3-door ZX. But I could end up with a Xantia or Berlingo ... or indeed a C3.
My annual mileage is very low, so fuel economy isn't an over-riding factor; maintenance costs and insurance are. Long-term, investing in a new(ish) C1 5-door diesel could work out well for me though, as a low-mileage one-or-two-owner economical small car should be a good starting point next time I want to trade. Of course, I haven't yet ridden in a C1, so if it's horrible it will get moved well down my list. Down around the Mercedes A-Class (yuck! Actually /painful/ in the back!).
If only the 2CV were still made.
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2Rowdy - 07 Jun 2006 16:59 GMT I was reading <news:vr6jl3-0ii.ln1@ID-107770.user.individual.net>, made by the entity known as Whiskers, that requests spam to be sent to <catwheezel@operamail.com> and I became inspired,
> If only the 2CV were still made. Adrian! Sale!
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Whiskers - 07 Jun 2006 18:26 GMT > I was reading <news:vr6jl3-0ii.ln1@ID-107770.user.individual.net>, > made by the entity known as Whiskers, that requests spam to be sent to [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Adrian! Sale! I'm sad to say I wouldn't buy one for serious use now; they are all too old and precious to be thrashed along motorways, squeezed through gridlock, and parked on the street 24/7/365. I wouldn't be so worried if they were still easily replaced. If I had spare cash I might have one as a 'plaything' to be cossetted (along with the Morris Minor I can't afford to run either).
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Gene S. Park - 07 Jun 2006 19:42 GMT There are several 2CVs on Ebay.
Try this link:
http://motors.listings.ebay.com/_Passenger-Vehicles_Citroen_W0QQa39Z1939QQa41ZQ2 d24QQalistZa39Q2ca41QQcurcatZtrueQQfromZR42QQgcsZ13QQpfidZ2473QQsacatZ6001QQsati tleZQQsocmdZListingItemListQQsofocusZpf
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>> I was reading <news:vr6jl3-0ii.ln1@ID-107770.user.individual.net>, >> made by the entity known as Whiskers, that requests spam to be sent to [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > a 'plaything' to be cossetted (along with the Morris Minor I can't afford > to run either). Gerald L R Stubbs - 08 Jun 2006 00:23 GMT The message <eqejl3-2ig.ln1@ID-107770.user.individual.net> from Whiskers <catwheezel@operamail.com> contains these words:
> I'm sad to say I wouldn't buy one for serious use now; they are all too > old and precious to be thrashed along motorways, squeezed through > gridlock, and parked on the street 24/7/365. I can't let you get away with that ! I use one on a regular basis whenever I do not need to use the big car (for towing my digger around). It keeps up with traffic and even does a fair bit of overtaking when it gets the bit between the teeth. Mine has a galvanized chassis, so is a bit like Tesco's bag for life...
All the car's components, with very few exceptions can still be sourced new, and major components such as engine and gearbox can be got exchange-reconditioned. Michelin still make old pattern X tyres for them, and Firestone also make tyres of the correct size and characteristics.
> I wouldn't be so worried if > they were still easily replaced. If I had spare cash I might have one as > a 'plaything' to be cossetted (along with the Morris Minor I can't afford > to run either). But there are still loads of them around. Just buy an MOT test failure and build it into a new galvanized chassis. Car for life - 50 to the gallon - bombproof roadholding - insurance less than £100 - half price tax - 70,000 miles out of the tyres.
No water to worry about, nor distributor, heater motor and other bothersome stuff. One of the best cars ever made. Last year there were 3000 of them together in the same field in Scotland !
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Rodney Wakefield - 08 Jun 2006 09:49 GMT The message <313030303330383344876E1376@zetnet.co.uk> from Gerald L R Stubbs <stubbs@zetnet.co.uk> contains these words:
> Last year there were > 3000 of them together in the same field in Scotland ! I gather that they still "Race" them at certain rallies, BICBW...
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Adrian - 08 Jun 2006 10:43 GMT > I gather that they still "Race" them at certain rallies, BICBW... www.2cvracing.co.uk
Rodney Wakefield - 08 Jun 2006 19:06 GMT The message <Xns97DC6D1615341adrianachapmanfreeis@204.153.244.170> from Adrian <toomany2cvs@gmail.com> contains these words:
> > I gather that they still "Race" them at certain rallies, BICBW...
> www.2cvracing.co.uk Wot! No tripods?
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Adrian - 08 Jun 2006 10:42 GMT > Firestone also make tyres of the correct size and characteristics. Not any more.
Mabor 135s seem to be the current budget tyre of choice, but nothing beats Michs.
Gerald L R Stubbs - 09 Jun 2006 00:36 GMT The message <Xns97DC6CF55D3EBadrianachapmanfreeis@204.153.244.170> from Adrian <toomany2cvs@gmail.com> contains these words:
> > Firestone also make tyres of the correct size and characteristics.
> Not any more. Right. I thought they were still made as ECAS were advertising them in an old catalogue I had.
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Whiskers - 08 Jun 2006 15:16 GMT > The message <eqejl3-2ig.ln1@ID-107770.user.individual.net> > from Whiskers <catwheezel@operamail.com> contains these words: [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > between the teeth. Mine has a galvanized chassis, so is a bit like > Tesco's bag for life... snip
<picks self up from floor, rubbing bruises>
Ouch!
OK, OK, I'll put 're-built 2CV' back up near the top of the list, OK?
There are very few 2CVs on the road around my patch of north London.
I know what the car's merits are, I used one for years and still remember it fondly - even the need to get it push-started in the winter when the ignition got too damp over-night for even the starting-handle to work. (I'm sure there was a way to get that fixed too, but the local Citroen garages weren't really interested in 'old bangers' - they wanted to sell me a new car).
Many's the time I've overtaken Jags and Mercs struggling up the steep passes of the Lake District, with my fully laden 2CV growling eagerly for the next bend.
Here's a true story:-
I'd had the 2CV serviced by the local Citroen garage, preparatory to a long drive from Salford to Cornwall via central London. All went well until I was belting along the M1 on the outskirts of London, when there was a rattle-rattle-BANG from under the bonnet; but the car carried on going at full throttle 60mph+ so I thought I'd thrown up a stone or something.
Then I hit the queue to get off the motorway. Damned car stalled when I changed down, but picked up again when I let the clutch in. But each time I lifted off the throttle, the engine died; it would only run at full throttle. Now, this is not good in heavy traffic, and not good on a Sunday afternoon in a big city one is not familiar with. Particularly when one still has another 200 miles to go and people depending ... this was in the days before 'mobile phones' too.
Happily, I spotted the friendly chevrons down a dingy side-street, and roared my way towards it in 1st gear at rather too much of a lick for the road, slipping the clutch to keep control as I jerked to a stuttering halt outside the mercifully open double-doors of an archetypal back-street bodger's garage.
A greasy-overalled gentleman wandered out, muttering and scowling; I picked up a few words, such as 'merde' and 'sh.t' and 'vache', and many others that were not part of my GCE O-level French, and in a very strange accent. "I say, this car seems to have something wrong with the engine ..." "mutter ... groan ... gesticulate ... execrable Anglais ... dimanche". He opened the bonnet, leaving a huge smear of dark grease on the paintwork, and poked around, and pulled out a loose Bowden cable with a lump of metal on the end. "Who work on carbretta, eh? EEEdioTTa! <spit> ... See? screws here, here, four, gone; not good! Carbretta, choke, merde! <spit> ... "
He vanished into the gloom of his work-shop, and emerged a few minutes later with a wire coat-hanger and a box of bits and some tools including a large hammer, and proceded to curse in some alien tongue while buried head-first in the depths of the sick engine. After about ten minutes, he emerged, wiped the spit off his chin then onto the headlamp rim, and said "OK, go now, feexed". I tried the starter, and she purred into life; the throttle worked smoothly, all seemd well again. I took out my wallet, he grabbed a bank-note seemingly at random, cursed some more, and closed the doors behind him as he retired once more to his lurking place.
The rest of the journey was relatively un-eventful. The engine continued to run perfectly happily for several years ofter that, with the bit of coat-hanger and a hand-made tin substitute for whatever vital part the Citroen garage had failed to bolt down securely. I never used that Citroen dealer again, and no-one who serviced the car ever commented on the non-standard parts - and never replaced them, either.
I could never find the establishment of the grimey saviour again.
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Adrian - 08 Jun 2006 19:32 GMT > There are very few 2CVs on the road around my patch of north London. You're in North London...?
Right, give Louis Barbour a shout - 01494 864112 - not far past Watford - and tell him I sent you.
Whiskers - 08 Jun 2006 22:08 GMT >> There are very few 2CVs on the road around my patch of north London. > > You're in North London...? > > Right, give Louis Barbour a shout - 01494 864112 - not far past Watford - > and tell him I sent you. When I've got money, perhaps!
This seems to be him <http://www.2cvtv.com/Specialist/louisbarbour.htm>. Hmmm; 4x4 2CV, eh?
Interesting that newly-rebuilt 2CVs with new galvanised chassis seem to go for about as many pounds as I paid for my new one in 1976 - and not a lot less than a new C1 <http://www.2cvcity.co.uk/rebuilds.html>.
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Adrian - 08 Jun 2006 22:14 GMT > This seems to be him > <http://www.2cvtv.com/Specialist/louisbarbour.htm>. Hmmm; 4x4 2CV, > eh? www.2cv4x4.com
Wanna buy my 4x4? (Dark grey E-reg one)
> Interesting that newly-rebuilt 2CVs with new galvanised chassis seem > to go for about as many pounds as I paid for my new one in 1976 - and > not a lot less than a new C1 <http://www.2cvcity.co.uk/rebuilds.html>. <cough> Shall we just say "Other suppliers are available"...?
Whiskers - 08 Jun 2006 22:25 GMT >> This seems to be him >> <http://www.2cvtv.com/Specialist/louisbarbour.htm>. Hmmm; 4x4 2CV, [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Wanna buy my 4x4? (Dark grey E-reg one) Sorry, not in the market just now. Intriguing idea though. If I can resist frittering money away on computer stuff, I might manage to get my ZX de-dented enough to make it sellable and then cope with all the stress of selling and buying. Or find a buyer for the non-runner Morris Minor currently occupying the garage, so that the 2CV would at least have some refuge. I'm not good at organising myself or dealing with 'things', though (which is how I come to have a neglected car in the garage in the first place).
>> Interesting that newly-rebuilt 2CVs with new galvanised chassis seem >> to go for about as many pounds as I paid for my new one in 1976 - and >> not a lot less than a new C1 <http://www.2cvcity.co.uk/rebuilds.html>. > > <cough> Shall we just say "Other suppliers are available"...? Yes, I'd gathered that :))
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Adrian - 08 Jun 2006 22:31 GMT >> <cough> Shall we just say "Other suppliers are available"...?
> Yes, I'd gathered that :)) Ah, but this is in an "Anybody but them" kinda way...
Whiskers - 08 Jun 2006 23:04 GMT >>> <cough> Shall we just say "Other suppliers are available"...? > >> Yes, I'd gathered that :)) > > Ah, but this is in an "Anybody but them" kinda way... Oh dear :((
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>>>> <cough> Shall we just say "Other suppliers are available"...? >> [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Oh dear :(( The suspense.
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Adrian - 08 Jun 2006 10:41 GMT <of 2cvs>
> I'm sad to say I wouldn't buy one for serious use now; they are all > too old and precious to be thrashed along motorways, squeezed through > gridlock, and parked on the street 24/7/365. If you'll excuse the phrase, bollocks. Big fat hairy furry sweaty bollocks.
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> <of 2cvs> > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > If you'll excuse the phrase, bollocks. Big fat hairy furry sweaty > bollocks. But do they come with bullbars?
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Adrian - 08 Jun 2006 11:45 GMT >>> I'm sad to say I wouldn't buy one for serious use now; they are all >>> too old and precious to be thrashed along motorways, squeezed >>> through gridlock, and parked on the street 24/7/365.
>> If you'll excuse the phrase, bollocks. Big fat hairy furry sweaty >> bollocks.
> But do they come with bullbars? They certainly can do... http://www.ecas2cvparts.co.uk/dept.asp?dept%5Fid=23 http://www.owzat-cricket.co.uk/acatalog/Abdo_Guard___Cricket_Box_.html
2Rowdy - 08 Jun 2006 12:33 GMT I was reading <news:Xns97DC77AA96CDDadrianachapmanfreeis@204.153.244.170>, made by the entity known as Adrian, that requests spam to be sent to <toomany2cvs@gmail.com> and I became inspired,
[Whiskers isn't sure about a 2CV]
>> But do they come with bullbars? > > They certainly can do... > http://www.ecas2cvparts.co.uk/dept.asp?dept%5Fid=23 I think it's clear what Whiskers should do to survive the urban gridlock. Buy a 2CV.
> http://www.owzat-cricket.co.uk/acatalog/Abdo_Guard___Cricket_Box_.html ROFLOL
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Adrian - 08 Jun 2006 10:38 GMT > I may end up with something not even a Citroen Like a C1...?
Adrian - 08 Jun 2006 10:40 GMT > My annual mileage is very low, so fuel economy isn't an over-riding > factor; maintenance costs and insurance are. Long-term, investing in > a new(ish) C1 5-door diesel could work out well for me though, as a > low-mileage one-or-two-owner economical small car should be a good > starting point next time I want to trade. No! NO! NOOOOO!
That's MADNESS.
Small budget. Low mileage. Brand new small car is ABSOLUTELY not the way to low overall running costs - unless, of course, you completely forget about the HUGE depreciation it'll suffer.
Yes, it'll be cheap to insure and maintain, and it'll be allergic to fuel.
But the four or five grand you'll lose in depreciation will buy a lot of servicing and fuel in something larger and older.
> If only the 2CV were still made. For the price of a new C1, you can get a bloody *perfect* 2cv. And have plentymuch change left over.
Whiskers - 08 Jun 2006 14:14 GMT >> My annual mileage is very low, so fuel economy isn't an over-riding >> factor; maintenance costs and insurance are. Long-term, investing in [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > For the price of a new C1, you can get a bloody *perfect* 2cv. And have > plentymuch change left over. I'd hesitate long before buying a new car, of any sort, unless I felt rich.
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>>> I've seen the C6 a week ago. Life and real. I touched it, then >>> saw the price tag, e76,000. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Yes, me too. Well, who can tell ... It'll take some time before a second hand becomes affordable for me. I've got time.
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Dave Ryman - 07 Jun 2006 14:06 GMT > I was reading <news:ij3cl3-fvu.ln1@ID-107770.user.individual.net>, > made by the entity known as Whiskers, that requests spam to be sent to [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > price tag, e76,000. > I'll dream on. 76,000 Euros? I went to the Citroen website, and used the configurator. Totally maxed-out, the car costs about £40,000 - which works out at 58,000 Euros - is it actually cheaper in the UK? That'll be a first!
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Adrian - 07 Jun 2006 14:24 GMT > 76,000 Euros? I went to the Citroen website, and used the > configurator. Totally maxed-out, the car costs about £40,000 Which is a chunk cheaper than an equivalent A6, 5-series, E-class to similar spec.
Gene S. Park - 05 Jun 2006 22:44 GMT I got to the BBC2 site but could not view the program as it is only for the UK
> .-----<http://www.topgear.com/content/tgonbbc2/> > | [...] [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > The car also found it's way into the 'very cool' band on the 'cool wall'. > (The Peugeot didn't). Dave Ryman - 07 Jun 2006 00:54 GMT > .-----<http://www.topgear.com/content/tgonbbc2/> >| [...] [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > The car also found it's way into the 'very cool' band on the 'cool > wall'. (The Peugeot didn't). It's a shame that JC's explanations of the CX controls were so poor: Particularly the brake pedal. No wonder people felt intimidated by the technology in the 70s and 80s if they thought the brake pedal was a simple on/off switch!
I have had two CXs in my time, and would love to own one now (the prices for which actually seem to be climbing!) but I can't commit to something which may cost so much to maintain: a quarter of a century of wear-and- tear is bound to have taken it's toll. These cars need someone willing to (and able to) tend them with TLC... Not to mention a local good Citroen mechanic!
... so it was heart-warming to see the design features in the C6 which harked back to the CX. Back in 1990, I bought a GOOD 1987 CX22TRS for something like 25% of (that's OF not OFF!) the new list price. I would like to think that in 2009 I'll be able to repeat the same trick. However, it might be a bit like dating the daughter of an ex-girlfriend from school!
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Whiskers - 07 Jun 2006 15:30 GMT snip
> It's a shame that JC's explanations of the CX controls were so poor: > Particularly the brake pedal. No wonder people felt intimidated by the > technology in the 70s and 80s if they thought the brake pedal was a > simple on/off switch! My own first experience of Citroen power-assisted brakes was not dissimmilar from his; I was used to un-assisted brakes with long pedal travel and the need for real effort, so the 'don't even think about /pressing/ me' set-up came as something of a surprise.
> I have had two CXs in my time, and would love to own one now (the prices > for which actually seem to be climbing!) but I can't commit to something > which may cost so much to maintain: a quarter of a century of wear-and- > tear is bound to have taken it's toll. These cars need someone willing to > (and able to) tend them with TLC... Not to mention a local good Citroen > mechanic! Running costs are what puts me off an 'affordable' hydraulic Citroen. I've seen too many of them being scraped off the road with crow-bars just to get the cradle under them for lifting onto the back of a lorry - one was brought in to the garage where I was buying my 'used' ZX, and the mechanic and the garage owner were both moaning about the spate of 'grounded' BXs whose owners had tried to stretch the service interval just too far.
> ... so it was heart-warming to see the design features in the C6 which > harked back to the CX. Back in 1990, I bought a GOOD 1987 CX22TRS for > something like 25% of (that's OF not OFF!) the new list price. I would > like to think that in 2009 I'll be able to repeat the same trick. > However, it might be a bit like dating the daughter of an ex-girlfriend > from school! We can dream ...
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Frank Kemper - 24 Jun 2006 22:09 GMT Whiskers <catwheezel@operamail.com> haute in die Tasten:
> My own first experience of Citroen power-assisted brakes was not > dissimmilar from his; I was used to un-assisted brakes with long > pedal travel and the need for real effort, so the 'don't even > think about /pressing/ me' set-up came as something of a > surprise. I had the same encounter: My first car was a '72 VW Type 2 Transporter (like VW Bus but with less cosy interior) The car had drum brakes on all wheels and no power brake assistance. During that time my parents had this brand new Citroen GS Break special with all- wheel HP operated disc brakes. It was more than once that I produced some blue smoke with that.
Frank
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Gene S. Park - 07 Jun 2006 19:40 GMT Try this link for the C6 and click on C6 Website tab.
http://www.citroen.com/CWW/en-US/RANGE/PrivateCars/C6/default/
Gene
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