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Car Forum / Citroen Cars / July 2006xantia pitches ubder braking
Hi everybody I have an N-reg xantia 1.9td and when I brake it pitches (the nose dives up and down) a lot. The suspension also seems to be very soft. Is this a funciton of the 'dreaded spheres' that I have just been reading about or is there something else? I also have the clicking sound and vibration on the brake pedal: from my understanding I can leave it as it is only an irritation and has no mechanical implications? Thanks Hi Duncan. It sounds as though your car may have the wrong spheres fitted, as when the spheres loose pressure this will make the ride a lot harder, but this will not cause the pitching up and down. How does it perform when pulling away fast ? Do the rear mudflaps hit the deck ? If so this could lead to the same assumption. As for the vibration under the brake pedal, does it fell like you have trodden on a bee ? ie buzzing slightly from under your foot, if so you probabaly have cheap LHM. Get it out and refill the system with either Castrol or Total LHM. In my past experience all other LHM is pants and too thin, it works ok but the buzzing is the spool in the brake valve, this is damped out if you use decent LHM. Regards Slim. "Slim" <martin.taz@tesco.net> wrote in news:1151071047.898874.113460 @r2g2000cwb.googlegroups.com: > Hi Duncan. > It sounds as though your car may have the wrong spheres fitted, as when [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > Regards > Slim. I used to own a BX, which needed a darn good suspension service. pitching, rolling, yawing, bouncing, you name it. It also failed to run on three wheels after I had a blow-out. In this case, poor pressure/spheres made the ride anything but hard.  SignatureRegards, Dave dave_ryman@hotmailNOSPAM.com http://welcome.to/daves.website http://travel.to/formula.one Dave, you have convinced me it the spheres. New ones will go on soon! Thanks Duncan > "Slim" <martin.taz@tesco.net> wrote in news:1151071047.898874.113460 > @r2g2000cwb.googlegroups.com: [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > http://welcome.to/daves.website > http://travel.to/formula.one > Dave, you have convinced me it the spheres. New ones will go on soon! > [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] >> http://welcome.to/daves.website >> http://travel.to/formula.one What about the pump and the hydraulic lines? Does it have to be the actual spheres? SignatureRegards, Dave dave_ryman@hotmailNOSPAM.com http://welcome.to/daves.website http://travel.to/formula.one I did replace the LHM a few weeks ago, with cheap no-name stuff! AAAHHHH, it is so expensive... Why can't they have suspension like every other normal car, this system is uber high mantainance. The mudflaps don't hit the ground when pulling away. I will replace the front spheres first, see what happens and then then do the back ones if it is not better Thanks for the advice Duncan > Hi Duncan. > It sounds as though your car may have the wrong spheres fitted, as when [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > Regards > Slim. > I did replace the LHM a few weeks ago, with cheap no-name stuff! > AAAHHHH, it is so expensive... A fiver per litre, and four litres every year or two? > Why can't they have suspension like every other normal car, this system > is uber high mantainance. Not really, no. Between 5 and 8 £20 spheres to replace every three or four years. £20 of genuine Total LHM every year or two. About an hour or two labour to replace all those. And what does that get you...? No need to replace worn dampers - not that anybody ever does until they're *utterly* f.cked. No need to replace damp hygroscopic brake fluid (which doubles as a very effective paint stripper) - not that anybody ever does until it's ruined the brake wheel cylinders. No dragging the arse of the car on the ground when you put a couple of people in the back seat and some stuff in the boot. Of course, if you don't do the basic maintenance in the first place, the system's going to give problems. It was ever thus. >> I did replace the LHM a few weeks ago, with cheap no-name stuff! >> AAAHHHH, it is so expensive... [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > £20 of genuine Total LHM every year or two. > About an hour or two labour to replace all those. I agree. I've had 3 Citroens and the suspension was no real hassle. GSF version of LHM seems to work fine and isn't too dear. Of course as you say, if you leave it unmaintained then it will give hassle and at that point it may be dearer than normal suspension especially if the regulator or pump decide to leak. SignatureMalc Cheap, but not as cheap as your girlfriend |
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