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2Rowdy - 08 Aug 2006 17:29 GMT

In another newsgroup someone (-=Hawk=-) made this for me.
http://s90011794.onlinehome.us/stuff/citroen.jpg
Nice :-)

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Henrietta K Thomas - 09 Aug 2006 03:10 GMT

>In another newsgroup someone (-=Hawk=-) made this for me.
>http://s90011794.onlinehome.us/stuff/citroen.jpg
>Nice :-)

Yes, very nice.....

I'll bet you wear it all the time.

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2Rowdy - 09 Aug 2006 08:39 GMT

I was reading <news:n1hid21tekjqfgf40r0oft5e5b4u1jipi9@4ax.com>, made
by the entity known as Henrietta K Thomas, that requests spam to be
sent to <hkt@xnet.com> and I became inspired,

>> In another newsgroup someone (-=Hawk=-) made this for me.
>> http://s90011794.onlinehome.us/stuff/citroen.jpg
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> I'll bet you wear it all the time.

Naturally. Together with my Citroen baseball cap.

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2Rowdy - 09 Aug 2006 14:42 GMT

All I need is a 2CV but what should I do with my Xantia?

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Whiskers - 09 Aug 2006 14:59 GMT

> All I need is a 2CV but what should I do with my Xantia?

Trade it?

Are you now encouraging the use of talkabout web forums to interact with
newsgroups? <G>

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2Rowdy - 09 Aug 2006 16:44 GMT

I was reading <news:nb6pq3-kib.ln1@ID-107770.user.individual.net>,
made by the entity known as Whiskers, that requests spam to be sent to
<catwheezel@operamail.com> and I became inspired,

>> All I need is a 2CV but what should I do with my Xantia?
>
> Trade it?

For your beaten up ZX. I think not.
Are you going for the bullbar 2CV?

> Are you now encouraging the use of talkabout web forums to interact
> with newsgroups? <G>

No. There is a discussion going on in news.groups and some think
web2news is something new. That's why I tested talkabout remembering
one poster in here. Horrible quote (none) but free, terrible slow.
I thought I would be able to log into their server but I can't. It
appears they have no server, they appear to post using supernews (and
I couldn't log in there either).

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Whiskers - 09 Aug 2006 20:56 GMT

> I was reading <news:nb6pq3-kib.ln1@ID-107770.user.individual.net>,
> made by the entity known as Whiskers, that requests spam to be sent to
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
> For your beaten up ZX. I think not.

Mine's right-hand drive anyway. I probably will get the dents seen to
properly, eventually.

> Are you going for the bullbar 2CV?

Probably not this year. Replacing the rotting window-frames in the flat
will have to take priority. I'd also want to make room in the garage for
any car with a soft roof - I wouldn't trust the vandals to keep away from
it. (The 2CV I had in the 70s had the roof slashed a few times).

>> Are you now encouraging the use of talkabout web forums to interact
>> with newsgroups? <G>
>
> No. There is a discussion going on in news.groups and some think
> web2news is something new. That's why I tested talkabout remembering
> one poster in here. Horrible quote (none) but free, terrible slow.

I suspect their intention is to generate income from adverts on the web
pages; currently, they seem to be only 'Google' ads which can be zapped
simply by disabling 'javascript' in your browser.

If you click on 'About' at the foot of the 'web forum' page, there is an
image of very small print which says "Developed and Powered by
MediaGlitch.com ..."; <http://www.mediaglitch.com/> is just a few lines of
text with a link to <http://www.talkaboutnetwork.com/> which my browser
can't get a response from.

A little digging reveals:-

.-----[ dig talkaboutnetwork.com ]

| ; <<>> DiG 9.3.1 <<>> talkaboutnetwork.com
| ;; global options: printcmd
[quoted text clipped - 24 lines]
| ;; WHEN: Wed Aug 9 20:22:05 2006
| ;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 229

'-----

"Information related to '217.160.240.0 - 217.160.255.255'" leads to
<http://www.schlund.de/>, a web-hosting firm.

> I thought I would be able to log into their server but I can't. It
> appears they have no server, they appear to post using supernews (and
> I couldn't log in there either).

Correct. I wonder if Supernews are aware of what's going on? The traffic
may not be enough to get close attention from Supernews.

I have encountered other usurpers of newsgroups; from my scorefile:

Score:: -13 %web forum posting
Message-ID: photographytalk\.net
Message-ID: allthenewsgroups\.com
Message-ID: interbbs\.com
Message-ID: talkaboutautos\.com

Articles posted via any of them are rare. There is another, whose URL I
forget, which doesn't generate unique MIDs so I don't try to score it;
24hoursupport.helpdesk has had one or two people turning up from it.

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2Rowdy - 09 Aug 2006 22:34 GMT

I was reading <news:59rpq3-gil.ln1@ID-107770.user.individual.net>,
made by the entity known as Whiskers, that requests spam to be sent to
<catwheezel@operamail.com> and I became inspired,

>> Are you going for the bullbar 2CV?
>
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> to keep away from it. (The 2CV I had in the 70s had the roof
> slashed a few times).

So you are still considering it. If that one breaks down you can blame
Adrian:-)

> I suspect their intention is to generate income from adverts on the
> web pages; currently, they seem to be only 'Google' ads which can
> be zapped simply by disabling 'javascript' in your browser.

I vaguely remember they had a pay service some years ago. Not sure
though.

> .-----[ dig talkaboutnetwork.com ]

[dig, dig, dig]

> "Information related to '217.160.240.0 - 217.160.255.255'" leads to
> <http://www.schlund.de/>, a web-hosting firm.

A big one, from Germany with offices in the US.
Schlund.de and schlund.info are the same. Connections with GMX.net,
1and1.com and ev1.net.
Did a dig yesterday on alcatroll.com (PJR uses that) and also ended up
at schlund.

If you dig into mediaglitch.com you will find a link with
bohemians.org.

I suspect the talkaboutnetwork thing originated from there. It looks
like a hobby grown too big and dying cos of Google.
It has a directory structure that does not follow the hierarchy
structure, i.e. manual labor. I says it also is connected to other
types of forums and it has registered a number of sub-sites.
The site needs maintenance.

> Correct. I wonder if Supernews are aware of what's going on? The
> traffic may not be enough to get close attention from Supernews.

It has had a lot of traffic until Google.groups started. A few years
ago the path also started at Supernews so they must know. The network
has been abused.

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Whiskers - 10 Aug 2006 15:30 GMT

> I was reading <news:59rpq3-gil.ln1@ID-107770.user.individual.net>,
> made by the entity known as Whiskers, that requests spam to be sent to
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> So you are still considering it. If that one breaks down you can blame
> Adrian:-)

A 2CV is one possibility. The one I had was fun, and remarkably versatile
and comfortable. Lack of non-essential complexity is attractive, and I
like 'quirky' and 'eccentric' when the underlying concepts are elegant and
effective.

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[about talkabout network ...]

> If you dig into mediaglitch.com you will find a link with
> bohemians.org.
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> types of forums and it has registered a number of sub-sites.
> The site needs maintenance.

Perhaps it will whither away.

Competition for Google Groups is not a bad thing, but trying to provide a
public web interface for posting to newsgroups is not easy - I have yet to
see it done satisfactorily.

If Talkabout do still maintain a usenet archive, then it might be useful
for them to concentrate on that (and promoting it) without providing a
posting service at all - or perhaps operating a proper news-server for that
aspect. I agree that ignoring the real newgroup heirarchies introduces
both confusion and excessive maintenance.

> It has had a lot of traffic until Google.groups started. A few years
> ago the path also started at Supernews so they must know. The network
> has been abused.

It does look that way, although that may not have been the intention.

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