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Car Forum / Citroen Cars / September 2006

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Crwni - 11 Sep 2006 01:31 GMT
i have a problem with overheating

the car after a 5 mile or so run will overheat the radiator is cold
if i open the bleed valve (top left on the head) loads of air comes out and
the rad gets hot

but i have to keep doing this
any ideas what to do

Gareth
Malc - 11 Sep 2006 08:48 GMT
> i have a problem with overheating
>
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> but i have to keep doing this
> any ideas what to do

If you have refilled and bled the radiator properly then it is probably
a blown head gasket. You have filled it up with a header bottle haven't
you?
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J.M.Dijksterhuis - 11 Sep 2006 15:41 GMT
is the water in de radiator on level?? No water no kooling.

Open all bleed valve's on top of the enigine, radiator and bring the water
on level. Start the engine and check the water level. Close the bleed
valve's one after one on till water is running out of it.

if this not working, check the thermostat valve on the left in the engine
room above de gearbox. It is possible that de valve can be stuck.
Then the water only circulate in the engine and not through radiator.

Otherwise it is possible that the waterpump is not working. The distribution
(valve) belt drives the waterpump. This is not cheap.

> i have a problem with overheating
>
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
> Gareth
Crwni - 11 Sep 2006 19:56 GMT
i have replaced the heater matrix (well not me but a friend) and had the
head gasket replaced and was hoping that would be the end of the woes.

Gareth

> is the water in de radiator on level?? No water no kooling.
>
[quoted text clipped - 20 lines]
>>
>> Gareth
Malc - 11 Sep 2006 21:24 GMT
> i have replaced the heater matrix (well not me but a friend) and had
> the head gasket replaced and was hoping that would be the end of the
> woes.
> Gareth

I hope you haven't popped a second head gasket. These engines have an alloy
head which can be a bit fragile. Did you fill the radiator with a header
bottle and properly bleed it before driving?

Which diesel is it, what year?

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Cheap, but not as cheap as your girlfriend

Crwni - 11 Sep 2006 22:04 GMT
as far as i know it was done according to the book so i cant understand what
the bloody problem is - the was sent away to be skimmed etc etc only genuine
citroen parts used

it is the 1.9 turbo diesel and its on an s plate (70k on clock)

Gareth

>> i have replaced the heater matrix (well not me but a friend) and had
>> the head gasket replaced and was hoping that would be the end of the
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
> Which diesel is it, what year?
Brian - 12 Sep 2006 18:10 GMT
> as far as i know it was done according to the book so i cant understand what
> the bloody problem is - the was sent away to be skimmed etc etc only genuine
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> Gareth

To expand on what Malc said, you need to raise the level of the water above
the filler cap to get rid of all the air. This can easily be done using an
old plastic bottle with a widish top, about the same dia. as the inside of
the filler. Cut bottom off bottle, and use it like a long funnel to raise
the water level. With this filled, open all the vents and only close them
when water comes out.
Then run it at fast idle for 5 minutes and check if the top of the rad is
warming up. If it is not, then chances are that you have a faulty
thermostat.
Pete M - 12 Sep 2006 18:08 GMT
In news:LVBNg.318$2g5.118@newsfe7-win.ntli.net,
Brian <blecnospam@tesco.net> wittered on forthwith;
>> as far as i know it was done according to the book so i cant
>> understand what the bloody problem is - the was sent away to be
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
> rad is warming up. If it is not, then chances are that you have a
> faulty thermostat.

and don't forget that *something* caused the head gasket to go in the first
place. You've fixed the gasket, but the thermostat could well be what caused
the gasket to go..

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Crwni - 12 Sep 2006 18:59 GMT
thanks to you all for the help and advice
im told it was the temperature overheating when the heater matrix went (thus
the replacement of heater matrix and head geasket followed)

ill try the high water level and see

when you say all the vents how many and where abouts are they

Gareth

> In news:LVBNg.318$2g5.118@newsfe7-win.ntli.net,
> Brian <blecnospam@tesco.net> wittered on forthwith;
[quoted text clipped - 19 lines]
> first place. You've fixed the gasket, but the thermostat could well be
> what caused the gasket to go..
Malc - 12 Sep 2006 21:34 GMT
> thanks to you all for the help and advice
> im told it was the temperature overheating when the heater matrix
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
> Gareth

To quote the Haynes BoL

"To assist draining open the heater bleed screw. These are located in the
heater matrix outlet connector and/or hose (to improve access it may be
located in and extension hose) on the engine compartment bulkhead, on top of
the thermostat housing and in the coolant bypass hose depending on model."

IIRC mine was on a hose at the top right hand side of the engine (prolly
going to the heater). I don't recall one on the thermostat housing but then
again...

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Malc

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Crwni - 14 Sep 2006 21:59 GMT
further to all the help and advice
it seems 1 of the inlet hoses to the heater matrix was perished (didnt think
it was that cold yet)
this was bringing air into the system (but not losing water)
been running 2+ hours and heater is nice n hot and no overheating.

be nice to get the xantia running along side my c5 and picasso again

Gareth

>> thanks to you all for the help and advice
>> im told it was the temperature overheating when the heater matrix
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
> going to the heater). I don't recall one on the thermostat housing but
> then again...
 
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