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Car Forum / Citroen Cars / June 2007

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How do you jack up a non-running SM?

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James - 11 Jan 2007 22:40 GMT
It sits so low that you can't even get a jack under it.  The engine
does not work.
Ian Dalziel - 11 Jan 2007 23:02 GMT
>It sits so low that you can't even get a jack under it.  The engine
>does not work.

Jack it up with a litle jack until you can get a big jack - with a
l-o-n-g lift - under it.

In theory.

Personally, I think you're doomed.

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Adrian - 12 Jan 2007 09:12 GMT
> Personally, I think you're doomed.

I agree with Ian.

However, he's already got an SM, so you'll have to give yours to me.

On a more serious note, try one of these :-
http://www.4x4winches.com/airbagjack.htm
(I know nothing of that supplier)

I've got one, and it really does do what it says on the tin. It'll squeeze
absolutely flat then inflate. Be wary, though, of positioning - it WILL
bend floorpan steel if you just shove it under carelessly, and it will
topple over quite easily if the vehicle isn't chocked securely.

For this purpose, though, it's *perfect*.
James - 12 Jan 2007 15:17 GMT
> > Personally, I think you're doomed.
>
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> For this purpose, though, it's *perfect*.

I saw an air bag jack at an accident.  Quite useful on wrecks and on
soft ground.
naked_draughtsman - 12 Jan 2007 16:28 GMT
> I saw an air bag jack at an accident.  Quite useful on wrecks and on
> soft ground.

The local zoo used to have an elderly elephant with arthritis who would
sit down and not be able to get back up again.  Every time the fire
brigade would come out with such an airbag and use it to lift the
elephant back up onto its feet!

peter
2Rowdy - 13 Jan 2007 00:04 GMT
I was reading
<news:1168619337.882890.107280@11g2000cwr.googlegroups.com>, made by
the entity known as naked_draughtsman, that requests spam to be sent
to <googleaddy@petereverett.co.uk> and I became inspired,

>> I saw an air bag jack at an accident.  Quite useful on wrecks and
>> on soft ground.
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> the fire brigade would come out with such an airbag and use it to
> lift the elephant back up onto its feet!

A bit harsh to compare a SM with an elephant.
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Ian Dalziel - 13 Jan 2007 10:01 GMT
>I was reading
><news:1168619337.882890.107280@11g2000cwr.googlegroups.com>, made by
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>A bit harsh to compare a SM with an elephant.

Perhaps a white SM?

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2Rowdy - 13 Jan 2007 17:36 GMT
I was reading <news:tebhq2lq8fu6nq5fgpcib1ms0a0o9bo2b7@4ax.com>, made
by the entity known as Ian Dalziel, that requests spam to be sent to
<iandalziel@lineone.net> and I became inspired,

>> I was reading
>> <news:1168619337.882890.107280@11g2000cwr.googlegroups.com>, made
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
>
> Perhaps a white SM?

With tusks? Or a rollbar?
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Adrian - 13 Jan 2007 10:07 GMT
>> The local zoo used to have an elderly elephant with arthritis who
>> would sit down and not be able to get back up again.  Every time
>> the fire brigade would come out with such an airbag and use it to
>> lift the elephant back up onto its feet!

> A bit harsh to compare a SM with an elephant.

Indeed. The elephant'd be FAR cheaper to keep.
2Rowdy - 13 Jan 2007 17:41 GMT
I was reading
<news:Xns98B766F86A751adrianachapmanfreeis@204.153.244.170>, made by
the entity known as Adrian, that requests spam to be sent to
<toomany2cvs@gmail.com> and I became inspired,

>>> The local zoo used to have an elderly elephant with arthritis who
>>> would sit down and not be able to get back up again.  Every time
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> Indeed. The elephant'd be FAR cheaper to keep.

Heretic!
An SM doesn't have to drive to be admired.
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Adrian - 13 Jan 2007 19:09 GMT
>>> A bit harsh to compare a SM with an elephant.

>> Indeed. The elephant'd be FAR cheaper to keep.

> Heretic!
> An SM doesn't have to drive to be expensive

True.
Ian Dalziel - 13 Jan 2007 23:06 GMT
>>>> A bit harsh to compare a SM with an elephant.
>
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>
>True.

<sob>
True, true, all true.

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Whiskers - 11 Jan 2007 23:05 GMT
> It sits so low that you can't even get a jack under it.  The engine
> does not work.

Can it be rolled onto a low ramp?  That might get enough space underneath
to insert a jack.

I've seen deflated BXs beeing lifted by the sort of crane used to 'tow
away' illegally parked cars - using clamps that fit over each wheel.  
(I've also seen a long crow-bar being used - but I don't recommend that if
you want to avoid damage to the car!)

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Tony Fisk - 12 Jan 2007 08:13 GMT
> It sits so low that you can't even get a jack under it.  The engine
> does not work.

Find a recovery firm with a front-wheel platform towing truck.  You can roll
the car forward over the plates, then lift it, at the front at least.

Mind, you haven't said what you are going to do with it once it's up - that
could be important!

TF
bozo - 02 Jun 2007 18:09 GMT
The standard methodology, at least among the ID/DS folks and pending a
functional hydraulic system, has been to use a 90 degree adapter to mount a
pulley on an electric drill (cordless, if need be) and then a short belt
between the drill and the pulley (sans engine belt) of the non-runner's
hydraulic pump - spin it, and up she comes.  Supposedly this works just
fine, though I haven't tried it myself, yet.  For the SM, given the location
of the hydraulic pump, if you were close enough to power - i.e. parked
outside and just wanting to get it rolled into the garage - you might be
able to dismount the AC compressor and in its place mount a 2nd hand washing
machine motor with pulley and a long enough extension cord to reach the
mains - for a more permanent, temporary solution.

> It sits so low that you can't even get a jack under it.  The engine
> does not work.
Adrian - 02 Jun 2007 18:14 GMT
> It sits so low that you can't even get a jack under it.  The engine
> does not work.

Try an airbag jack.

http://www.justoffbase.co.uk/3-Tonne-Air-Jack-61432-Draper-AJ3
(Not a recommendation of that specific vendor, never heard of 'em before)

I've got one, and I love it... It's absolutely flat uninflated, but goes
high enough to get the back wheels of an Acadiane off the ground. I
wouldn't trust it to be solid enough for anything other than a quick tyre
change, but it'll do fine for getting a dead SM/DS/whatever high enough for
a trolley jack or axle stand to go in.
 
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