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Car Forum / Citroen Cars / July 2007Best value for money: Xantia/Xsara/C3?
Hi, Looking for a replacement car, and willing to try out Citroen, I am looking at the following models: 2002 Xsara 1.6i VTR coupe 2000 Xantia 1.8i 2003 C2 1.6I VTR They all have automatic transmission. My questions: which car provides the best value for money? I know the C2 is very advanced technology-wise, but isn't it too small to enjoy the citroen advantages? I read in review, the Xsara lacks the proper handling the ZX has, which the does Xantia offer. Was the Xsara a failure in that regard? Please help me out, as I only ever once drove a C3, and would like some hints before starting to test-drive those cars. Kind regards, Pieter > Looking for a replacement car, and willing to try out Citroen, I am > looking at the following models: > > 2002 Xsara 1.6i VTR coupe > 2000 Xantia 1.8i > 2003 C2 1.6I VTR I don't know about wherever in the world you are, but in the UK, there'd be a VERY VERY big price difference between those three - not really an apples-to-apples comparison here. The Xant wouldn't be much over a quarter of the price of the C2, with the Xsara about half way. For the C2 money, you'd probably be able to get a similar age C5. > My questions: which car provides the best value for money? I know the C2 > is very advanced technology-wise, but isn't it too small to enjoy the > citroen advantages? <shrug> How big's a 2cv? > I read in review, the Xsara lacks the proper handling the ZX has, which > the does Xantia offer. Was the Xsara a failure in that regard? The Xsara _is_ a ZX underneath - the only substantial difference to handling is going to be sheer weight. > Please help me out, as I only ever once drove a C3, and would like some > hints before starting to test-drive those cars. Our experiences and preferences are very unlikely to coincide with yours in any meaningful way. Just go and test drive 'em all and see which you like best. > Pieter Jansen (newsSPAMspamTRAP@pitr.net) gurgled happily, sounding > much [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > I don't know about wherever in the world you are, <snip> Message-ID: <466286b2$0$2893$2e0edba0@news.tweakdsl.nl> My guess, Netherlands... :Jerry: (INVALID@INVALID.INVALID) gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying : >>> Looking for a replacement car, and willing to try out Citroen, I am >>> looking at the following models: >>> >>> 2002 Xsara 1.6i VTR coupe >>> 2000 Xantia 1.8i >>> 2003 C2 1.6I VTR >> I don't know about wherever in the world you are, > <snip> > Message-ID: <466286b2$0$2893$2e0edba0@news.tweakdsl.nl> > My guess, Netherlands... <puts snippage back in> >> but in the UK, there'd be a VERY VERY big price difference between those >> three - not really an apples-to-apples comparison here. The Xant >> wouldn't be much over a quarter of the price of the C2, with the Xsara >> about half way. >> >> For the C2 money, you'd probably be able to get a similar age C5. That doesn't tell us much about the state of the used car market and relative pricing in NL, though... <snip> > That doesn't tell us much about the state of the used car market and > relative pricing in NL, though... No, but it did make my reposting of your (with good intentions) original reply rather irrelevant - hence why I left it out of my reply! Adrian schreef: > That doesn't tell us much about the state of the used car market and > relative pricing in NL, though... The difference between the C2 and C5 is a bit bigger here due to the tax-percentage. I forgot to mention that I test-drove a C5 before buying my current car, but I wasn't impressed with the state of the car (2001 C5 2.0 diesel with 120000 km) The reason for me trying out Citroen is that I'm getting tired of how my M5-undercarriage handles (speed-)bumps. Regards, Pieter > The reason for me trying out Citroen is that I'm getting tired of how my > M5-undercarriage handles (speed-)bumps. Ah. In that case, it's a no-brainer. Get the Xant. It's the only one with proper Citroen suspension. Pieter Jansen <newsSPAMspamTRAP@pitr.net> haute in die Tasten: > The reason for me trying out Citroen is that I'm getting tired > of how my > M5-undercarriage handles (speed-)bumps. Okay, get the Xantia and you're done with that. The 1.8 litre engine is said to be the best in performance vs. fuel ratio. Frank :Jerry: schreef: > Message-ID: <466286b2$0$2893$2e0edba0@news.tweakdsl.nl> > My guess, Netherlands... Affirmative; the country which adds 30% "BPM" tax to all new cars. Regards, Pieter >> My guess, Netherlands... > Affirmative; the country which adds 30% "BPM" tax to all new cars. Well, yes, but none of them are *new* cars, are they? Adrian schreef: > Well, yes, but none of them are *new* cars, are they? The 30% is included in the price you pay at the dealership. That rule has been around for a very long while now, so basically every car is 30% more expensive here in general. Pieter Adrian schreef: > I don't know about wherever in the world you are, but in the UK, there'd be > a VERY VERY big price difference between those three - not really an > apples-to-apples comparison here. The Xant wouldn't be much over a quarter > of the price of the C2, with the Xsara about half way. The Xantia is a bit cheaper indeed. The prices I found: Xantia: 7k C2: 9k Xsara: 9k Add the required accessoires to the Xantia, and you'll be near the C2/Xsara range. Remember that 30% of the newprice of cars here is taxed. > For the C2 money, you'd probably be able to get a similar age C5. The C5 starts at 9k with 90000 km mileage. I think the C5 would be a bit of a risk, maintenance wise (big car with high mileage is usually more expensive). > <shrug> How big's a 2cv? In my expierience, most small cars are the same regarding handling. I do notice differences between a Twingo and a Corsa (the twingo being rock solid on the road). >> Please help me out, as I only ever once drove a C3, and would like some >> hints before starting to test-drive those cars. > > Our experiences and preferences are very unlikely to coincide with yours in > any meaningful way. Just go and test drive 'em all and see which you like > best. I'm not buying a new car in a rush, as I'm first trying to sell my current BMW 530 diesel (hard market), so I thought to ask for some personal opinions first while I'm looking around. Thanks for yours :-) Regards, Pieter In news:4662c8b5$0$10193$2e0edba0@news.tweakdsl.nl, Pieter Jansen <newsSPAMspamTRAP@pitr.net> wittered on forthwith; > Adrian schreef: > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Xantia: 7k 7k????? You'd be lucky getting 2k for one here.  SignaturePete M - Using the Scouse Side of the Force - Golf GTi Mk2 2.0 8v Wood and Pickett Range Rover V8 Turbo Golf GTi Mk1 (For Sale) OMF#9 Currently listening to The White Stripes Pete M schreef: > 7k????? You'd be lucky getting 2k for one here. I want one with < 100000 km (and must be an automatic) :) http://tinyurl.com/3938du (For archive purposes: http://zoek.autotrader.nl/www/cars_search?modelexact=1&make=Citroen&model=Xantia &keywords=&min_pr=&max_pr=&transmissionid=&fuel=&colour=&body=&min_year=&max_yea r=&min_mileage=&max_mileage=&distance=&postcode=&dealertypeid=o&dealertypeid=g&d ealertypeid=f&dealertypeid=m&dealertypeid=p&dealertypeid=b&sort=20) Regards, Pieter Pieter Jansen <newsSPAMspamTRAP@pitr.net> haute in die Tasten: > I want one with < 100000 km (and must be an automatic) :) Okay, I paid 4.3 K for my 2.0i VSX (AC, Power Seats, Power Mirrors) with 84.000 km on the counter and auto trans. I bought it from a Citroen dealer in germany. Frank >> Xantia: 7k > >7k????? You'd be lucky getting 2k for one here. Different realities :) I just sold a 94 for US$4000 and bought a 2002 for US$7000 :) SignatureEduardo K. | Darwin pone las reglas. http://www.carfun.cl | Murphy, la oportunidad. http://ev.nn.cl | | Yo. >>> Xantia: 7k >>7k????? You'd be lucky getting 2k for one here. > Different realities :) I just sold a 94 for US$4000 and bought a 2002 > for US$7000 :) Going rate for a 94 Xantia in the UK is more like £400... The 2k figure Pete gave for a '00 Xant is probably in Euros, not pounds. In the last month or so, I've seen a scrap C5 HDi, because it wasn't worth the cost of repairing the broken cambelt - and I know of a "being-fixed- but-god-knows-why" scrap TD '00 Evasion/Synergie, with a dead engine (one conrod sticking out the side) |
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