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2Rowdy - 05 Dec 2003 19:19 GMT
Made a ballot, you can vote and add choices.
http://www.bestandworst.com/pages/vote/vote-7285.html
Have fun
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2Rowdy - 05 Dec 2003 19:23 GMT
Message i.d.:<news:bqqlou$25vh3n$1@ID-126858.news.uni-berlin.de>,
by author 2Rowdy aka <harry131313@deadspam.com> inspired me,
> Made a ballot, you can vote and add choices.
> http://www.bestandworst.com/pages/vote/vote-7285.html
> Have fun
Oh, feel free to copy/paste the link.
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Adrian - 08 Dec 2003 10:12 GMT
> Made a ballot, you can vote and add choices.
> http://www.bestandworst.com/pages/vote/vote-7285.html
> Have fun

Wot's a "CS"? If it's a C5, then where's the CX?
2Rowdy - 08 Dec 2003 16:58 GMT
Message i.d.:<news:Xns944B67DA71CEFadrianachapmanfreeis@130.133.1.4>,
by author Adrian aka <spamtrap@achapman.freeisp.co.uk> inspired me,

>> Made a ballot, you can vote and add choices.
>> http://www.bestandworst.com/pages/vote/vote-7285.html
>> Have fun
>
> Wot's a "CS"? If it's a C5, then where's the CX?

I don't know what a CS is. You are the expert here ;-) But someone
must know what it is, it reveived one vote so far.
You can add choices. Anyone can.
So far the XM appears to be winning with 8 votes, it received my
vote, naturally.
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Adrian - 08 Dec 2003 17:04 GMT
>>> Made a ballot, you can vote and add choices.
>>> http://www.bestandworst.com/pages/vote/vote-7285.html
>>> Have fun

>> Wot's a "CS"? If it's a C5, then where's the CX?

> I don't know what a CS is. You are the expert here ;-) But someone
> must know what it is, it reveived one vote so far.

So did "tea"....

> You can add choices. Anyone can.

I've done that...

> So far the XM appears to be winning with 8 votes, it received my
> vote, naturally.

You're strange... No *way* is an XM the best Citroen. Not in any area,
except perhaps "best compromise" - and I don't think it's even that.

And, yes, I do still have my XM.
2Rowdy - 08 Dec 2003 17:13 GMT
Message i.d.:<news:Xns944BAD948AD07adrianachapmanfreeis@130.133.1.4>,
by author Adrian aka <spamtrap@achapman.freeisp.co.uk> inspired me,

>>>> Made a ballot, you can vote and add choices.
>>>> http://www.bestandworst.com/pages/vote/vote-7285.html
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
> So did "tea"....

Lemon tea?

>> You can add choices. Anyone can.
>
> I've done that...

GS?

>> So far the XM appears to be winning with 8 votes, it received my
>> vote, naturally.
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> And, yes, I do still have my XM.

Rest my case :-)
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Adrian - 08 Dec 2003 18:06 GMT
>>> You can add choices. Anyone can.

>> I've done that...

> GS?

Nope.

>> You're strange... No *way* is an XM the best Citroen. Not in any area,
>> except perhaps "best compromise" - and I don't think it's even that.
>>
>> And, yes, I do still have my XM.

> Rest my case :-)

It's a marginally better car in some ways than the CX was, but in others
it's worse. In some ways, a ZX diesel is a far better can than the XM. In
others, a 2cv is far better. Less has gone wrong than the CX, but what has
gone wrong has been a *right* pain in the arse, and in some cases,
effectively unsolvable.

There's nothing exceptional about an XM. It's better than the alternatives,
but it's not "the best".
2Rowdy - 08 Dec 2003 19:06 GMT
Message i.d.:<news:Xns944BB82C17EF8adrianachapmanfreeis@130.133.1.4>,
by author Adrian aka <spamtrap@achapman.freeisp.co.uk> inspired me,

>>>> You can add choices. Anyone can.
>
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> Nope.

ZX?

>>> You're strange... No *way* is an XM the best Citroen. Not in any
>>> area, except perhaps "best compromise" - and I don't think it's
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> It's a marginally better car in some ways than the CX was, but in
> others it's worse. In some ways, a ZX diesel is a far better can
than
> the XM. In others, a 2cv is far better. Less has gone wrong than
the
> CX, but what has gone wrong has been a *right* pain in the arse,
and
> in some cases, effectively unsolvable.
>
> There's nothing exceptional about an XM. It's better than the
> alternatives, but it's not "the best".

The XM (written in capital Times) has something the DS has. Looks. I
think the XM has an exeptional design and it also drives great.
It costs be an arm and a leg to keep it like that so it must be good.
Capital wise.
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Adrian - 08 Dec 2003 21:07 GMT

> ZX?

I might be warped, but - please!

> The XM (written in capital Times)

I prefer mine in italic swoopy font.
Whiskers - 10 Dec 2003 02:56 GMT
>  
>> ZX?
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> I prefer mine in italic swoopy font.

I quite like my ZX :))

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Adrian - 10 Dec 2003 16:15 GMT
>>> ZX?

>> I might be warped, but - please!

> I quite like my ZX :))

There's no helping some people.

If you want a comfortable mid-size car, to use like you would a ZX D, try a
decent Ami 8. Now *that's* a good car. Or if Sir fancies a bit more welly,
an Ami Super - the ZX Volcane of it's time.

And why have an XM or a Xantia when there's still some nice CXs about?

Out of all of my cars, though, if I had to keep *just one*, for all
purposes, it'd be the Acadiane. No question. Comfortable, quick enough,
economical, spacious, and I don't care if somebody nudges it in a car park.
Andy Dingley - 10 Dec 2003 16:53 GMT
>And why have an XM or a Xantia when there's still some nice CXs about?

Because an XM doesn't look quite so woebegone when you've parked it a
couple of days ?

Guy near me came out to find "abandoned car" stickers all over his CX
one day. Seems a neighbour had reported it as abandoned, "because all
the tyres were flat". It was just doing the usual CX flatfish
impression.
Adrian - 10 Dec 2003 22:17 GMT
>>And why have an XM or a Xantia when there's still some nice CXs about?
> Because an XM doesn't look quite so woebegone when you've parked it a
> couple of days ?

An early XM, or one with a flat anti-sink sphere, will - same with Xants.

> Guy near me came out to find "abandoned car" stickers all over his CX
> one day. Seems a neighbour had reported it as abandoned, "because all
> the tyres were flat". It was just doing the usual CX flatfish
> impression.

Some people just have no taste. I used to park my CX on flat, then have a
good long stare at it, even after having my fourth CX for three years. I've
*never* done that with the XM, not even when I first bought it.
Whiskers - 10 Dec 2003 23:27 GMT
>>>> ZX?
>  
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> economical, spacious, and I don't care if somebody nudges it in a car
> park.

I used a 2CV6 for many years, and would still if they weren't getting
scarce and 'precious'.  The Ami 8 is even scarcer and more precious.

The ZX 1.9D is a lot more economical than the 2CV6, and about as
comfortable overall (you feel the bumps a little more in a ZX, but your
passengers don't get seasick or terrified on roundabouts).  The ZX is also a
lot better on the motorway - my 2CV was always getting 'sucked' into the
slipstream of passing lorries, even on the odd occasion when the 2CV was
doing the overtaking.

I'm not claiming the ZX is the 'best' Citroen, or even a 'real' Citroen; I
can afford it though, just, and it is pretty reliable.

If money was not a limiting factor, I would want several Citroens,
including at least one original DS and a Light 15.  I would also want a
Humber Pullman and a 'knife edge' Triumph 2000, and a pre-WWI Vauxhall,
and ...

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Steinar Svin? - 12 Dec 2003 00:58 GMT
>>>> ZX?
>
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>
> And why have an XM or a Xantia when there's still some nice CXs about?

Agree !
I have a 1989 CX gti and a 1988 TRI :-)

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Ian Dalziel - 21 Dec 2003 18:02 GMT
>>> You can add choices. Anyone can.
>>
>> I've done that...
>
>GS?

That was me, I think. Mind you, it was late, so I could have added
"CS".
Linea Recta - 15 Dec 2003 17:44 GMT
Where is the C15?? No "experts" seem to have heard about it... Even ANWB.

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> Made a ballot, you can vote and add choices.
> http://www.bestandworst.com/pages/vote/vote-7285.html
> Have fun
2Rowdy - 15 Dec 2003 19:10 GMT
Message i.d.:<news:brks9i$4ij8n$1@ID-54604.news.uni-berlin.de>,
by author Linea Recta aka <mccm.vos-spamtrap-@hccnet.nl> inspired me,
> Where is the C15?? No "experts" seem to have heard about it... Even
> ANWB.

If the ANWB (AA , ADAC) doesn't know it, that is a good sign.
You can vote for it if you want to. (complete below where it says Add
Your Choice)
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Linea Recta - 15 Dec 2003 19:50 GMT
I see... done so. Nice option! :-))

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> Message i.d.:<news:brks9i$4ij8n$1@ID-54604.news.uni-berlin.de>,
> by author Linea Recta aka <mccm.vos-spamtrap-@hccnet.nl> inspired me,
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> You can vote for it if you want to. (complete below where it says Add
> Your Choice)
2Rowdy - 15 Dec 2003 21:02 GMT
Message i.d.:<news:brl39n$4ki07$1@ID-54604.news.uni-berlin.de>,
by author Linea Recta aka <mccm.vos-spamtrap-@hccnet.nl> inspired me,
> I see... done so. Nice option! :-))

Cool huh? Anyone can make such a poll.
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