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Car Forum / Citroen Cars / November 2004

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Help! ZX Alarm problem

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ian - 15 Nov 2004 20:37 GMT
My 1994 UK Citroen ZX has developed problems with the alarm. When using the
key fob to lock the car up the car locks itself and then straight away
unlocks itself. There is often a flashing of idicators although the alarm
itself it doesn't sound (I don't think it actually works).

Whilst I am not bothered about having a working alarm I do need to be able
to lock the car. The car won't lock by using the key in the door either.

I have tried various combinations of starting the car with the alarm button
depressed and trying to lock the car from inside but to no avail. Does
anyone know what is causing this? I don't want to take the car to a dealer
as it only cost me ?75!
Jim Mason - 15 Nov 2004 20:40 GMT
> My 1994 UK Citroen ZX has developed problems with the alarm. When using the
> key fob to lock the car up the car locks itself and then straight away
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> anyone know what is causing this? I don't want to take the car to a dealer
> as it only cost me £75!

It sounds like the alarm thinks there is a door open somewhere on the car.
I suggest investigating this first. Certainly on the Pug 306 this is the
symptom of an open door and I believe the electrics involved are more or
less identical.

Jim

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ian - 15 Nov 2004 20:47 GMT
> says...
>> My 1994 UK Citroen ZX has developed problems with the alarm. When using
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>
> Jim

Just been out and opened and closed all of the doors, boot and bonnet and it
is still doing it.
hissing - 15 Nov 2004 22:20 GMT
> Just been out and opened and closed all of the doors, boot and bonnet and it
> is still doing it.

It will most likely be a fault in the central locking not actually the
alarm (although the alarm is obviously connected to the central locking,
but then this is a bit of a guess as i don't know much about the ZX) , can
you try locking all the doors manually with the central locking disabled
(remove a fuse probably) and see if a lock isn't working.
ian - 15 Nov 2004 22:34 GMT
>> Just been out and opened and closed all of the doors, boot and bonnet and
>> it
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> you try locking all the doors manually with the central locking disabled
> (remove a fuse probably) and see if a lock isn't working.

Problem is (and this leads me to thinking you are right with your theory
about it being a central locking problem) that the drivers door does not
lock or unlock with a key. The passenger door will only lock or unlock that
door and not the others.
hissing - 16 Nov 2004 00:17 GMT
> Problem is (and this leads me to thinking you are right with your theory
> about it being a central locking problem) that the drivers door does not
> lock or unlock with a key. The passenger door will only lock or unlock that
> door and not the others.

Hmmn, with the suggestion that your drivers door won't lock with the key
(you mean it just doesn't lock? or do you mean that it locks and then
unlocks?) would be that the lock in that door is broken somehow, does the
barrel turn and just not lock? or does the barrel not move at all?

Sorry, I can't be much more help but I have never played with doors, and
locks and central locking.
ian - 16 Nov 2004 09:31 GMT
> > Problem is (and this leads me to thinking you are right with your theory
> > about it being a central locking problem) that the drivers door does not
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> Sorry, I can't be much more help but I have never played with doors, and
> locks and central locking.

Well, after a 25 mile drive to work the central locking has now starting
working again so whatever it is its tempermental.

Thanks everyone for your advice.
ian - 16 Nov 2004 13:34 GMT
> > > Problem is (and this leads me to thinking you are right with your theory
> > > about it being a central locking problem) that the drivers door does not
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>
> Thanks everyone for your advice.

Damn, spoke too soon!

Car still not locking! Went to the car at lunchtime and all doors unlocked
apart from the driver side which I had to manually open by climbing across
the passenger seat. Now the central locking locks and unlocks itself when
the key fob is pressed and the lock on the drivers door won't move if I try
to open it manually.
hissing - 16 Nov 2004 14:19 GMT
>> Well, after a 25 mile drive to work the central locking has now starting
>> working again so whatever it is its tempermental.
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> the key fob is pressed and the lock on the drivers door won't move if I try
> to open it manually.

Well, it sounds like you will need to take the drivers side door to bits
and try to find out what the problem is :)
Jim Mason - 16 Nov 2004 14:56 GMT
> >> Well, after a 25 mile drive to work the central locking has now starting
> >> working again so whatever it is its tempermental.
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> Well, it sounds like you will need to take the drivers side door to bits
> and try to find out what the problem is :)

Does the ZX suffer from the same wiring problem as the 306 re the loom
which goes through the door pillar? A break in this loom would cause the
random behaviour described.

Jim

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Jim Mason - 16 Nov 2004 06:31 GMT
> > says...
> >> My 1994 UK Citroen ZX has developed problems with the alarm. When using
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> Just been out and opened and closed all of the doors, boot and bonnet and it
> is still doing it.

I was meaning the system `thinks` a door is open. I assume there must be
some sort of limit switch on the doors that when all are met it allows
activation of the alarm, if one is open circuit then you are unable to arm
the alarm. Find the faulty switch/lock and I reckon you will solve the
problem.

Jim

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