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Car Forum / Citroen Cars / April 2005Xantia 96N
My Xantia 96N 1.9TD has seen better days. The other night the drivers side mirror was ripped off (passenger side one was done a while ago). I have a dint in the side that.. may or may not be an easy repair. The alternator (be it the unit the regulator the tensioner or the belt) is not charging. The engine struggles to start when cold (heater plugs?) the cooling fans do not work (this is not a wiring problem its a mechanical problem) The air con needs regassing The car has done 122k. I've not had a quote to get it repaired yet. however. Is it really worth doing? apart from no mirrors and the dint in the side which all being well can be repaired qutie easily (was done outisde my house.....******'s) the car is in good condition visually. the suspension is fine. recently had a new clutch new exhaust. spheres were changes abou 15k ago. (9 months). I'm not sure ona value of this car (repaired) but my main quiestion is. is it worth spending a fair bit on it gto get it back on the road or should i just look around for a new car? MOT is due in march also. Rob > My Xantia 96N 1.9TD has seen better days. > [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > just look around for a new car? > MOT is due in march also. Ignoring the mirrors (scrappies) and the dent (optional for looks only). I paid ?50 for regassing (not vital yet) and ?50 for a glow plug change and I supplied the plugs myself from Halfrauds at ?30. I was intending to change them myself but it's impossible unless you really know what you're doing. The specialist I take my car to said he could have got me better plugs cheaper. So just over ?100 for the regas and replugging and then ?20 for the mirrors say, and you've got a car that you can keep going to 200k miles and you say it's in good nick. No brainer really.  SignatureMalc > So just over £100 for the regas and replugging and then £20 for the > mirrors say, and you've got a car that you can keep going to 200k miles > and you say it's in good nick. No brainer really. I have to agree with your logic here it is a total no brainer, to replace the car will cost hundreds or possibly thousands, and the replacement could have a nasty problem that the buyer doesn't know about that then costs X thousand again to fix. Best to ignore the "actual" value of the car and look at it from the point of view that spending a couple of hundred quid will keep it running nicely for a while probably longer. I would only consider getting rid of it if lots of things were going wrong and it was really tatty and going to cost more than 500 quid to keep on the road for the next year as 500 quid is the starting price of most half-alright 2nd hand cars which will run for a year. > > So just over ?100 for the regas and replugging and then ?20 for the > > mirrors say, and you've got a car that you can keep going to 200k miles [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > the starting price of most half-alright 2nd hand cars which will run for a > year. thanks. the alternator and cooling fan problems were the main 2 issues which i wouldsay would be the expensive bits. you both seemed to overlook them. i would like to keep the car as it drives great. apart from that dent its like new, no scratches etc. thats why id like to fix the dent as it would make it look a million yen. Rob > thanks. the alternator and cooling fan problems were the main 2 issues > which i wouldsay would be the expensive bits. you both seemed to overlook > them. Go and get the bits from a scrappy, or just buy a dead Xantia of a similar age strip the bits you need and then scrap it yourself. >> > So just over ?100 for the regas and replugging and then ?20 for the >> > mirrors say, and you've got a car that you can keep going to 200k miles [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > like new, no scratches etc. thats why id like to fix the dent as it would > make it look a million yen. Ok I missed the alternator bit of the original post. Scrapyard again I think, most places allow you to bring one back if it doesn't work. SignatureMalc 9th level Smellcaster > Ok I missed the alternator bit of the original post. Scrapyard again I > think, most places allow you to bring one back if it doesn't work. > not 100% whether it is the alternator or not. theres a tensioner/pulley there which seems to be rattling alot.... and to me (although its hard to tell with the fast movements) it seems to be catching agasint the side. This to me means somethings worn and it needs replacing. This would probably be easier to buy new. cheaper than an alternator anyway. If it turns out it is the unit. there are 3 types. (ratings in A) will i tell teh difference visually so would i know which to use.? If mine is not the largest.. 110A if i remember. would it benefit me to put a bigger alternator on for the sake of it? i do alot of driving at night. with lights on .heater etc. whilst it clearly wont struggle. would be be better off? Rob >> Ok I missed the alternator bit of the original post. Scrapyard again I >> think, most places allow you to bring one back if it doesn't work. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > This to me means somethings worn and it needs replacing. This would > probably be easier to buy new. cheaper than an alternator anyway. Hmm. I've just had a glance in me Haynes BoL. The belt path for an air con diesel is quite involved. From the top of the engine the belt goes down, round a manual adjuster some where in the middle, up, round the alternator, down, round the compressor, across to the crankshaft pulley, upand forward to the automagically adjusted roller then up and round another pulley. To adjust seems to be a case of adjusting the manual tensioner enough to put a pin into a hole on the automatic tensioner. Without a piccy it's a little hard to explain. > If it turns out it is the unit. there are 3 types. (ratings in A) will i > tell teh difference visually so would i know which to use.? [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > with lights on .heater etc. whilst it clearly wont struggle. would be be > better off? Personally I would have said yes fit a bigger one if you can. But I have to admit that I'm not sure if there are any issues you need to be aware of. SignatureMalc > Personally I would have said yes fit a bigger one if you can. But I have to > admit that I'm not sure if there are any issues you need to be aware of. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > thanks Malc. you'd think with the toxic cloud over derby at the moment it may be a bit warmer to work in. i'm away for a fewdays with the band. so i'll be taking the cit relay anyway so i'll look into the job when i get back around tuesday. From what i've heard it is supposed to be autmatic adjustment. but looking at the book and ur description seems to say there is manual adjustment on it. Ah well. it'll get done at some point. DO you (or anyone) happen to know the citroen relay inside out. Its an 04 1800. 2.8hdi (bloody lovely thing.. prefer it to my car but at 24mpg i think i'll just use it for the rig) remote central locking will lock... but not unlock the passenger door. still a warranty job but rather than mess about i wondered if there was a simple solution? Rob You would know about it if the belt that feeds the alternator had gone, because it also feeds the hydraulic compressor and without hydraulic compression you will have no suspension, difficult steering and NO BRAKES. This happened to us today when our tensioner went and the belt came off. Not good!
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