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Car Forum / Citroen Cars / February 2005

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citroen main dealer price gouging

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[news] - 28 Feb 2005 19:06 GMT
*rant on*

xantia rear spheres

main dealer ?44.00+VAT ea
local factors ?28.80 ea

brake discs (ZX)

main dealer ?65+VAT /pair
local factors ?18.00 /pair

I'm gutted at paying for servicing.  I need that stamp in the book but, ffs,
it makes me mad when they try and gouge another ?280+VAT out of
me on top of the service interval charge.

/end rant

still, I have booked a full days test drive in a fully loaded brand spanking
new 2.0HDi 16v 6 speed C5. I'm currently using auoroute to see just how
many miles I can cover in a day ;-)

RT
Adrian - 28 Feb 2005 19:18 GMT
[news] (x@x.com) gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying :

> *rant on*
>
> xantia rear spheres
>
> main dealer ?44.00+VAT ea
> local factors ?28.80 ea

Andyspares ?19+vat

> brake discs (ZX)
>
> main dealer ?65+VAT /pair
> local factors ?18.00 /pair

Andyspares from ?4 each depending on spec of car...

> I need that stamp in the book

Not having a main dealer stamp is going to make NO difference on any Xant
or ZX now. Hell, I'd rather see decent Citroen specialist or other indie
stamps than a clueless dealer any day of the week.
[news] - 28 Feb 2005 19:35 GMT
> [news] (x@x.com) gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying :
>
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>
> Andyspares from ?4 each depending on spec of car...

thanks for those, I'll have a look. do you know anyone that swaps
ZX front wishbone bushes ? I've no time / place to do it ;-)

> > I need that stamp in the book
>
> Not having a main dealer stamp is going to make NO difference on any Xant
> or ZX now.

a mint 7yo. xantia with a genuine 78K on it ? get a grip, of course it matters.

> Hell, I'd rather see decent Citroen specialist or other indie
> stamps than a clueless dealer any day of the week.

you and I both know that but the car's up for sale and Joe Public wants to see
FCSH, a load of stamps from the same main dealer network in the book and
a reassuring sheaf of receipts for works already done.

it's not about making money on the sale, it's about getting a smooth, quick sale.

RT
Adrian - 28 Feb 2005 20:00 GMT
[news] (x@x.com) gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying :

> thanks for those, I'll have a look. do you know anyone that swaps
> ZX front wishbone bushes ? I've no time / place to do it ;-)

Where are you?

The Citroen Car Club runs a Citroen Specialist garage recommendation scheme
for members - www.citroencarclub.org.uk

>> Not having a main dealer stamp is going to make NO difference on any
>> Xant or ZX now.

> a mint 7yo. xantia with a genuine 78K on it ? get a grip, of course it
> matters.

No, it isn't. I'm not suggesting "no service history" - but it REALLY does
not matter who's serviced it - it is DEFINITELY not worth the premium for a
dealer service.

>> Hell, I'd rather see decent Citroen specialist or other indie
>> stamps than a clueless dealer any day of the week.
>
> you and I both know that but the car's up for sale and Joe Public
> wants to see FCSH, a load of stamps from the same main dealer network
> in the book and a reassuring sheaf of receipts for works already done.

Sorry, but you will have spent FAR more on one dealer service than it will
make difference, pricewise.

> it's not about making money on the sale, it's about getting a smooth,
> quick sale.

It still doesn't matter.
[news] - 28 Feb 2005 20:43 GMT
> [news] (x@x.com) gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying :
>
> > thanks for those, I'll have a look. do you know anyone that swaps
> > ZX front wishbone bushes ? I've no time / place to do it ;-)
>
> Where are you?

midlands. can travel, can't accomodate ;-)

> The Citroen Car Club runs a Citroen Specialist garage recommendation scheme
> for members - www.citroencarclub.org.uk

thanks for the tip.

> > > Not having a main dealer stamp is going to make NO difference on any
> > > Xant or ZX now.
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> not matter who's serviced it - it is DEFINITELY not worth the premium for a
> dealer service.

for a /dealer/ service ? probably not, but it looks nice in the book, a complete
set of main dealer stamps looks a whole lot better *to the average joe* than a
selection of independent garages of indeterminate pedigree.

> > > Hell, I'd rather see decent Citroen specialist or other indie
> > > stamps than a clueless dealer any day of the week.
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> Sorry, but you will have spent FAR more on one dealer service than it will
> make difference, pricewise.

bullshit. don't generalise. you've no idea what I paid for the car, the service
(stamp + the extras) or what the vehicle is worth. not to mention the fact that
there's a whole load of main dealer history I got printed out that I wasn't
aware of when I took a punt on the car.

what price can you put on not having to grub about under a car at -2 in the
snow, in the street ? been there, done that, risen above it ;-)

> > it's not about making money on the sale, it's about getting a smooth,
> > quick sale.
>
> It still doesn't matter.

yeah, ok. whatever you say. I'll just put to one side everything I've learned
over the last 20 years about car, motorbike and van buying/selling

thanks for the www.citroencarclub.org.uk tip

RT
hissing - 28 Feb 2005 21:13 GMT
>> > a mint 7yo. xantia with a genuine 78K on it ? get a grip, of course it
>> > matters.
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> average joe* than a selection of independent garages of indeterminate
> pedigree.

My Xantia Activa is just over 8 years old with 63k on the clock, i think
it has a FSH from main dealers up until I got it. I would be very lucky to
sell it for more than a grand, the most recent service would have cost 250
quid at a Citroen main dealer, my local guy down the road did it for 60
quid inc. parts...

>> > > Hell, I'd rather see decent Citroen specialist or other indie
>> > > stamps than a clueless dealer any day of the week.
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>> > in the book and a reassuring sheaf of receipts for works already
>> > done.

Normal Joe publics don't buy Citroen, they buy Ford of Vauxhaul ;)
[news] - 28 Feb 2005 20:47 GMT
> [news] (x@x.com) gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying :
>
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> The Citroen Car Club runs a Citroen Specialist garage recommendation scheme
> for members - www.citroencarclub.org.uk

/checks/

?35 to join ? offset that against the cost of labour to get the bush pressed out
and any benefit cancels it's self out. if any members can point me towards a
recommended garage in the e.mids I'll be very grateful.

RT
Adrian - 28 Feb 2005 22:18 GMT
[news] (x@x.com) gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying :

>> > ZX front wishbone bushes?

> the cost of labour to get the bush pressed out

Remove the arm and burn 'em out.
[news] - 28 Feb 2005 22:47 GMT
> [news] (x@x.com) gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying :
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>
> Remove the arm and burn 'em out.

oh do f.ck off. have you ever actually done that ?

I gave up grubbing about with 'solutions' like that and
bullshit advice from people like you when I was 18

RT
Adrian - 28 Feb 2005 23:57 GMT
[news] (x@x.com) gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying :

>> > > > ZX front wishbone bushes?

>> > the cost of labour to get the bush pressed out

>> Remove the arm and burn 'em out.

> oh do f.ck off. have you ever actually done that ?

Let's put it this way...

... it's how my local Citroen specialist does several each and every
week...

Get the arm off, put it outside, get the oxy torch on it so it lights, then
leave it to burn itself out. Quick wire brush, and good as new.
[news] - 28 Feb 2005 19:38 GMT
> [news] (x@x.com) gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying :
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>
> Andyspares from ?4 each depending on spec of car...

on second thoughts

+ delivery +aggro if the wrong ones arrive on the van

think I'll stick to my local.

RT
hissing - 28 Feb 2005 21:09 GMT
>> Andyspares £19+vat

> on second thoughts
>
> + delivery +aggro if the wrong ones arrive on the van
>
> think I'll stick to my local.

Check out if you have a local branch of GSF, they charge the same prices
online as in the shop.

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