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THE website belonging to alt.autos.citroen is back on-line. The website was hosted by a cheap hoster in Belgium (nuke Belgium! Nuke Canada!) but I guess it went bankrupt. It took me a lot of work to get it back on-line with a new host. Despite -=Hawk=- his suggestion I opted not for a cheap host this time (thanks anyway for the suggestion). This website is costing me an arm and a leg. Some URL's http://www.aacity.net to get new internet users into alt.autos.citroen. http://nntp.aacity.net the famous stolen links from -=Hawk=- with some minor additions. http://nntp.aacity.net/srf.htm for SRF calculation. http://nntp.aacity.net/tf.htm for the Troll FAQ. http://johan.aacity.net for some of my poor pictures. Wonder how long this host lasts (can't nuke The Netherlands). Could use some help though. If you have a Citroen related website I would appreciate a link to the website. The reward, everlasting thanks. Any suggestions regarding webcontent are always welcomed. I have a few days left to make a webpresentation of my poor and broken XM. I'll drive a Xantia soon. Could buy another brand but than I would be expelled form the newsgroup I helped to create. Adrian and Whiskers are quite strict on those things. x-post  Signatured:Johan; Certifiable me Newsgroups Are used to spread virusses. Did your newsreader post that virus? > Could buy another brand but than I would be expelled form the > newsgroup I helped to create. Adrian and Whiskers are quite strict on > those things. Blimey, don't you go blaming me. I owned an Alfa once, y'know. And a Hillman wImp. Message i.d.:<news:Xns96D1E81948164adrianachapmanfreeis@204.153.244.170>, by author Adrian aka <toomany2cvs@gmail.com> inspired me, >> Could buy another brand but than I would be expelled form the >> newsgroup I helped to create. Adrian and Whiskers are quite strict >> on those things. > > Blimey, don't you go blaming me. Blimey. I didn't blame you. Perhaps I could have if I didn't, buy me another Cit. But I didn't so I can't. But I could have if I did but I can't be sure. > I owned an Alfa once, y'know. And a Hillman wImp. :-D Now you shouldn't have said that. How can I ever take you seriously from now on? Would you take me seriously if I would tell you ever had two Diahasu Cuore's? Signatured:Johan; Certifiable me Random sigs should be banned from Usenet >> I owned an Alfa once, y'know. And a Hillman wImp. > >Now you shouldn't have said that. How can I ever take you seriously >from now on? >Would you take me seriously if I would tell you ever had two Diahasu >Cuore's? Well, if it's confession time... I own a <gulp> Volkswagen... :-) SignatureIan Message i.d.:<news:bkkji1dclpf1qmir9ptomdehconaoi9mgu@4ax.com>, by author Ian Dalziel aka <iandalziel@lineone.net> inspired me, >>> I owned an Alfa once, y'know. And a Hillman wImp. >> [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Well, if it's confession time... I own a <gulp> Volkswagen... > :-) Of all cars possible, a Volkswagen. I'm in shock. Signatured:Johan; Certifiable me http://www.aacity.net Citroen Newsgroup Sig is being randomised, pls wait . . . . >Message i.d.:<news:bkkji1dclpf1qmir9ptomdehconaoi9mgu@4ax.com>, >by author Ian Dalziel aka <iandalziel@lineone.net> inspired me, [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > >Of all cars possible, a Volkswagen. I'm in shock. http://makeashorterlink.com/?V20552ECB SignatureIan Message i.d.:<news:1soji1do9dah7ftegbktve8kiukfjfuc81@4ax.com>, by author Ian Dalziel aka <iandalziel@lineone.net> inspired me, >> Message i.d.:<news:bkkji1dclpf1qmir9ptomdehconaoi9mgu@4ax.com>, >> by author Ian Dalziel aka <iandalziel@lineone.net> inspired me, [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > http://makeashorterlink.com/?V20552ECB Sorry Ian. The link doesn't work on this end. Just hope it's a real ugly vw. (or is that a double?) Signatured:Johan; Certifiable me http://www.aacity.net Citroen Newsgroup Click -[ HERE ]- to continue..... Ian Dalziel <iandalziel@lineone.net> haute in die Tasten: > Well, if it's confession time... I own a <gulp> Volkswagen... >:-) Okay, I am a friend of contrasts. My other car is a BMW: No FWD, no suspension (at least not noticeable), no french electro gremlins (it has got bavarian gremlins instead) and - what a pity - no A/C;-) Frank Signatureplease replace spam-muelleimer with fk-newsgroups for e-mail contact Citroen - Made in Trance >> I owned an Alfa once, y'know. And a Hillman wImp. >:-D > Now you shouldn't have said that. How can I ever take you seriously > from now on? I presume you're meaning the LImp? What can I say? I was young, I needed to get to work on the Monday after wrapping the 2cv round a stone wall on the Friday evening... > Would you take me seriously if I would tell you ever had two Diahasu > Cuore's? No. That's just inexcusable. Message i.d.:<news:Xns96D34F42C7EF3adrianachapmanfreeis@204.153.244.170>, by author Adrian aka <toomany2cvs@gmail.com> inspired me, >>> I owned an Alfa once, y'know. And a Hillman wImp. > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > What can I say? I was young, I needed to get to work on the Monday > after wrapping the 2cv round a stone wall on the Friday evening... I forgive you. Tiny cars have a special type of appeal to them. They just should equip them with a handle for easy carriage. >> Would you take me seriously if I would tell you ever had two >> Diahasu Cuore's? > > No. That's just inexcusable. o.k. I won't tell you I ever had two of those tiny things. Does it help if I would tell you I drowned one? Could have been suicide of the car though, but at least I know for sure, they don't float. Signatured:Johan; Certifiable me http://www.aacity.net Citroen Newsgroup This posting is optimised for reading with Microsoft Outlook Express >>>> I owned an Alfa once, y'know. And a Hillman wImp. >>> :-D >>> Now you shouldn't have said that. How can I ever take you seriously >>> from now on? >> I presume you're meaning the LImp? >> >> What can I say? I was young, I needed to get to work on the Monday >> after wrapping the 2cv round a stone wall on the Friday evening... > I forgive you. Tiny cars have a special type of appeal to them. They > just should equip them with a handle for easy carriage. Not the wImp. It was unforgivable. It was *horrible*. >>> Would you take me seriously if I would tell you ever had two >>> Diahasu Cuore's? >> No. That's just inexcusable. > o.k. I won't tell you I ever had two of those tiny things. > Does it help if I would tell you I drowned one? Yes. It helps a lot. Message i.d.:<news:Xns96D3B9FEDA94Cadrianachapmanfreeis@204.153.244.170>, by author Adrian aka <toomany2cvs@gmail.com> inspired me, >>>>> I owned an Alfa once, y'know. And a Hillman wImp. > [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Not the wImp. It was unforgivable. It was *horrible*. Admit it. You still love it. >>>> Would you take me seriously if I would tell you ever had two >>>> Diahasu Cuore's? [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Yes. It helps a lot. Sadist. I still love it. Signatured:Johan; Certifiable me http://www.aacity.net Citroen Newsgroup By replying to this message you agree to the regulations written on the back of this posting. >> Could buy another brand but than I would be expelled form the >> newsgroup I helped to create. Adrian and Whiskers are quite strict on [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > I owned an Alfa once, y'know. Oh, an Alfa 155, an undetermined number of CXs, and now you want a Jaguar: why didn't you think of being beaten by a mistress dressed in leather, like everyone else? >> I owned an Alfa once, y'know. > Oh, an Alfa 155 And a 75. Don't forget the 75. V6, it was. > an undetermined number of CXs <counts on fingers> Four so far. But no Turbo. Yet. > and now you want a Jaguar: I've always liked Jags. Mk 7/8/9, please. > why didn't you think of being beaten by a mistress dressed in leather, > like everyone else? Again? So soon? Message i.d.:<news:Xns96D6E0F2BA714adrianachapmanfreeis@204.153.244.170>, by author Adrian aka <toomany2cvs@gmail.com> inspired me, >>> I owned an Alfa once, y'know. > >> Oh, an Alfa 155 > > And a 75. Don't forget the 75. V6, it was. Terrible this off-topic chat. >> an undetermined number of CXs > > <counts on fingers> Four so far. But no Turbo. Yet. This is better. >> and now you want a Jaguar: > > I've always liked Jags. Mk 7/8/9, please. Aaargh! >> why didn't you think of being beaten by a mistress dressed in >> leather, like everyone else? > > Again? So soon? Whot? How do you English propagate? Signatured:Johan; Certifiable me http://www.aacity.net Citroen Newsgroup This posting is optimised for reading with Microsoft Outlook Express >>> and now you want a Jaguar: >> I've always liked Jags. Mk 7/8/9, please. > Aaargh! Why? >>> why didn't you think of being beaten by a mistress dressed in >>> leather, like everyone else? >> Again? So soon? > Whot? How do you English propagate? I have *no* intention of inflicting my spawn on the world. Message i.d.:<news:Xns96D7C4EA6D272adrianachapmanfreeis@204.153.244.170>, by author Adrian aka <toomany2cvs@gmail.com> inspired me, >>>> and now you want a Jaguar: > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Why? I swallowed a fly. Sorry. >>>> why didn't you think of being beaten by a mistress dressed in >>>> leather, like everyone else? [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > I have *no* intention of inflicting my spawn on the world. But than you'll miss the first time they walk into the doorway and ask for the keys to the car. Signatured:Johan; Certifiable me http://www.aacity.net Citroen Newsgroup I drank of the purifying Nirang, the sterile urine of the spotless white bull of which there is but one in ten thousand. I am the wearer of The Secret Girdle that once belonged to DE. >>>>> why didn't you think of being beaten by a mistress dressed in >>>>> leather, like everyone else? >>>> Again? So soon? >>> Whot? How do you English propagate? >> I have *no* intention of inflicting my spawn on the world. > But than you'll miss the first time they walk into the doorway and ask > for the keys to the car. I won't miss it one bit. Besides, I seem to have the reverse problem - I keep my father in cars. He's had three of my CXs off me, and I sourced him a Xant. That's still going, but two CXs were stolen (one of 'em was only about half-complete when it went) and the last was scrapped. Message i.d.:<news:Xns96D7CB4FCFF01adrianachapmanfreeis@204.153.244.170>, by author Adrian aka <toomany2cvs@gmail.com> inspired me, >>> I have *no* intention of inflicting my spawn on the world. > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Besides, I seem to have the reverse problem - I keep my father in > cars. Funny. :-) > He's had three of my CXs off me, and I sourced him a Xant. That's > still going, but two CXs were stolen (one of 'em was only about > half-complete when it went) and the last was scrapped. Pitty about those two CXs. Oh. BTW. I'll collect my Xantia tomorrow. It's a 1997 TD sx with 300.000km. It's red. Don't ask what I am going to pay for it. It's probably way to much but I had some support from the insurance company. Made pictures of my XM today. Won't have time this week to make a webpresentation. I'll drop the XM, he'll probably scrap it. That hurts. Signatured:Johan; Certifiable me http://www.aacity.net Citroen Newsgroup [rest of sig scrapped due to foul language] >> Besides, I seem to have the reverse problem - I keep my father in >> cars. > Funny. :-) I'll give him your email address, alright? >> He's had three of my CXs off me, and I sourced him a Xant. That's >> still going, but two CXs were stolen (one of 'em was only about >> half-complete when it went) and the last was scrapped. > Pitty about those two CXs. '82 Athena - 40k miles from new. I got it for £40, with a hole in the side of the engine and a couple in the rear subframe, and nearly got evicted by my landlord because of the swearing doing the engine swap. My dad parked it, no tax, round the corner from his flat. And left it. And left it. And left it. And didn't return the phone calls when the plod rang him to say it was in their compound... (Or was that the 604GTi? I forget...) '82 Athena - My first CX. Needed front arm bushes and door bottoms and a respray. Then it cracked a cylinder liner, shortly after the rattly bottom end (from a leaking oil filter mount that really needed the engine to come out to sort) got a lot worse. He stripped a lot of it out, to benefit other CXs, then it disappeared one afternoon from the car park behind his new flat. Neighbours reported the 7.5ton scrap wagon that took it wheelspinning away... This was, of course, before scrap car prices fell... '83 20 Pallas. I got it free, with a bent front end. Sorted that (cut the front off a scrap CX, across the two suspension turrets, put it in the boot of the Dyane and the bonnet on the roof). Turned out the A-pillars were *rotten*. > Oh. BTW. I'll collect my Xantia tomorrow. > It's a 1997 TD sx with 300.000km. It's red. Don't ask what I am going > to pay for it. Here in the UK, that's going to be about £750 *at most*, with that mileage. > It's probably way to much but I had some support from the insurance > company. Who are, of course, a charity. Not. You'll pay for it, sooner or later, you'll pay. Message i.d.:<news:Xns96D7D72597722adrianachapmanfreeis@204.153.244.170>, by author Adrian aka <toomany2cvs@gmail.com> inspired me, >>> Besides, I seem to have the reverse problem - I keep my father in >>> cars. > >> Funny. :-) > > I'll give him your email address, alright? I'll get invited for tea and he will share your baby pictures and stories with me? Noooooo! >> Oh. BTW. I'll collect my Xantia tomorrow. >> It's a 1997 TD sx with 300.000km. It's red. Don't ask what I am >> going to pay for it. > > Here in the UK, that's going to be about £750 *at most*, with that > mileage. See. I won't tell but the prices out here range between 2000 and 4000 euro's for that kilometerage. >> It's probably way to much but I had some support from the insurance >> company. > > Who are, of course, a charity. Not. > You'll pay for it, sooner or later, you'll pay. Not this time I won't. The other guy gets to pay this time. I'll just give my annual donation, , , Darn, you *are* right. I'll pay it anyways. Signatured:Johan; Certifiable me http://www.aacity.net Citroen Newsgroup [18 lines] [Press ENTER to retrieve this message.] [Press M to mark this message for later retrieval.] >>> Oh. BTW. I'll collect my Xantia tomorrow. >>> It's a 1997 TD sx with 300.000km. It's red. Don't ask what I am >>> going to pay for it. >> Here in the UK, that's going to be about £750 *at most*, with that >> mileage. > See. I won't tell but the prices out here range between 2000 and 4000 > euro's for that kilometerage. HFM?!? >>> It's probably way to much but I had some support from the insurance >>> company. >> Who are, of course, a charity. Not. >> You'll pay for it, sooner or later, you'll pay. > Not this time I won't. The other guy gets to pay this time. Mmm. Right. You think that. You know when they ask "So, Mr Rowdy, any accidents in the last five years?" Message i.d.:<news:Xns96D7DCBFA1BA6adrianachapmanfreeis@204.153.244.170>, by author Adrian aka <toomany2cvs@gmail.com> inspired me, >>>> Oh. BTW. I'll collect my Xantia tomorrow. >>>> It's a 1997 TD sx with 300.000km. It's red. Don't ask what I am [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > HFM?!? Nice long link. Practically all Dutch traders put their offers in this database. http://zoek.autotrader.nl/cgi-bin/search?country=NL¤cy=EUR&locale=atnl.CAR S.1&transmission_GT=&transmission_LT=&make_id_EQI=Citroen&model_EQS=Xantia&keywo rds_LKSPLIT=&specified_price_GT=&specified_price_LT=500000&transmission_sel=0&fu eltype_EQS=Diesel&colour_EQS=0&bodytype_EQS=Hatchback&year_GT=0&year_LT=0&mileag e_GT=0&mileage_LT=0&geolocate=0&postcode=&orderby=neg_price >>>> It's probably way to much but I had some support from the >>>> insurance company. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > You know when they ask "So, Mr Rowdy, any accidents in the last five > years?" Never had that question asked. There is a blacklist though. Signatured:Johan; Certifiable me http://www.aacity.net Citroen Newsgroup IHUMFA >> HFM?!? > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Hatchback&year_GT=0&year_LT=0&mileage_GT=0&mileage_LT=0&geolocate=0&pos > tcode=&orderby=neg_price Try www.autotrader.co.uk You'd like the '98 v6 Exclusive for £990... Or maybe the £750 Activa? '97 2.1TD for £1100? Cheapest HDi seems to be nearly £2k, but that is only within 40miles of me. >> You know when they ask "So, Mr Rowdy, any accidents in the last five >> years?" > Never had that question asked. Absolutely standard question for insurance here. Never mind who was at fault in the accident(s). They need to know. Message i.d.:<news:Xns96D7E5012CFBFadrianachapmanfreeis@204.153.244.170>, by author Adrian aka <toomany2cvs@gmail.com> inspired me, > Try www.autotrader.co.uk Stupid site want's me to register. In the Dutch version I can click on: Diesel, Manual, Airbag, Aircon, 1997, Hatchback, Central door locking, Electric windows, Metallic, Pull thingy for mobile homes and I would end up here, http://zoek.autotrader.nl/cgi-bin/search?country=NL¤cy=EUR&locale=atnl.CAR S.1&transmission_GT=&transmission_LT=1&make_id_EQI=Citroen&model_EQS=Xantia&keyw ords_LKSPLIT=&specified_price_GT=&specified_price_LT=500000&transmission_sel=1&f ueltype_EQS=Diesel&colour_EQS=0&bodytype_EQS=Hatchback&year_GT=199700&year_LT=19 9712&mileage_GT=0&mileage_LT=0&electricwindows_EQI=on&metallicpaint_EQI=on&airba g_EQI=on&powersteering_EQI=on&air_con_EQI=on¢ral_locking_EQI=on&towhook_EQI= on&geolocate=0&postcode=&orderby=neg_price&dealertypeid_EQI=o&dealertypeid_EQI=g &dealertypeid_EQI=f&dealertypeid_EQI=p&dealertypeid_EQI=b That's only one car and it's nearby but there must be something wrong with it. The price ain't right. >>> You know when they ask "So, Mr Rowdy, any accidents in the last >>> five years?" [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Absolutely standard question for insurance here. Never mind who was > at fault in the accident(s). They need to know. Called the insurance today. Transferred insurance from the XM to the Xant. They only asked my zip code and the license plate numbers. The car is a gem. It looks close to new. No scratches and just one tiny dent. The Engine is vivid, much metter than expected. I have had a BX TRD, no turbo, just 1.9cc of raw diesel power with a mind of it's own. "So, you think I am not going fast enough and that's why you push the throttle? Now way, I'll do what I want to do no matter how hard you step on it" Not with this (1.9 turbo) diesel. You push it and it goes faster. You push it harder and it 'll try extra. It acts like a petrol car, unexpected. No clicking diesel sounds in the car. It's close to silent. Less noise as with my XM. The suspension is better as the XM. Less wobbly, just as smooth. The interior is boring (is it a Volkswagen?), the exterior is likable but without the impressive front look of the XM. The XM I had (end '93) looks a lot better. The XM (2.0i) is faster and has more raw power. But the Xant definitely has a smoother ride. Julian was right (in 1998). http://www.citroenet.org.uk/html/x/xanana.htm I like it. Fuel economy should be better and the price of diesel is a lot lower compared with normal petrol. Insurance is lower since new-value is lower (weird) but taxes are higher due to higher weight. I have three months of warranty. The BOTH likes it. Not sure if that is good. Signatured:Johan; Certifiable me http://www.aacity.net Citroen Newsgroup This posting is optimised for reading with Microsoft Outlook Express >> Try www.autotrader.co.uk > Stupid site want's me to register. Only for extended details. You can do a search by make/model/price. You'll need a postcode - try SL1 4BA (Cit UK's head office...) >>>> You know when they ask "So, Mr Rowdy, any accidents in the last >>>> five years?" >>> Never had that question asked. >> Absolutely standard question for insurance here. Never mind who was >> at fault in the accident(s). They need to know. > Called the insurance today. Transferred insurance from the XM to the > Xant. They only asked my zip code and the license plate numbers. Yes, because you've already got a policy with them. But if you were to ring a new insurance company for a quote, thinking of changing to them, would they? They would here. >>> Try www.autotrader.co.uk > [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > a new insurance company for a quote, thinking of changing to them, would > they? They would here. Even if they don't ask, you're meant to tell them; it's a 'material fact' which 'a prudent underwriter would take into consideration'. I used to be a 'prudent underwriter'. Signature-- ^^^^^^^^^^ -- Whiskers -- ~~~~~~~~~~ Message i.d.:<news:r28d03-59f.ln1@ID-107770.user.individual.net>, by author Whiskers aka <catwheezel@operamail.com> inspired me, > I used to be a 'prudent underwriter'. Not sure what a prudent underwriter does but it sounds like a silent job. Signatured:Johan; Certifiable me http://www.aacity.net Citroen Newsgroup I drank of the purifying Nirang, the sterile urine of the spotless white bull of which there is but one in ten thousand. I am the wearer of The Secret Girdle that once belonged to DE. > Message i.d.:<news:r28d03-59f.ln1@ID-107770.user.individual.net>, > by author Whiskers aka <catwheezel@operamail.com> inspired me, [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Not sure what a prudent underwriter does but it sounds like a silent > job. Certainly quiet; backroom of the insurance company. Signature-- ^^^^^^^^^^ -- Whiskers -- ~~~~~~~~~~ Message i.d.:<news:Xns96D9D8A2437C7adrianachapmanfreeis@204.153.244.170>, by author Adrian aka <toomany2cvs@gmail.com> inspired me, >>> Try www.autotrader.co.uk > You'll need a postcode - try SL1 4BA (Cit UK's head office...) Thanks. You are right, prices out here are higher than over there. Does it help if I tell you I have three months of warranty and the car has had service? Oh, and it has the steeringwheel on the right side :-D >> Called the insurance today. Transferred insurance from the XM to >> the Xant. They only asked my zip code and the license plate [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > to ring a new insurance company for a quote, thinking of changing > to them, would they? They would here. Probably. Signatured:Johan; Certifiable me http://www.aacity.net Citroen Newsgroup [18 lines] [Press ENTER to retrieve this message.] [Press M to mark this message for later retrieval.] > Oh, and it has the steeringwheel on the right side :-D Yeh, all the ones here have it on the right side, too. I thought most cars over your way had it on the left, though? Message i.d.:<news:Xns96DAE0514CD59adrianachapmanfreeis@204.153.244.170>, by author Adrian aka <toomany2cvs@gmail.com> inspired me, >> Oh, and it has the steeringwheel on the right side :-D > > Yeh, all the ones here have it on the right side, too. I thought > most cars over your way had it on the left, though? Right, euh, correct. Signatured:Johan; Certifiable me http://www.aacity.net Citroen Newsgroup Newsgroups Are used to spread virusses. Did your newsreader post that virus? >Despite -=Hawk=- his suggestion I opted not for a cheap host this time >(thanks anyway for the suggestion). This website is costing me an arm >and a leg. 1&1's not a cheap host, they're a low cost host. If you're paying an arm and a leg for the same or less features... well, I won't call you a fool... ok, I will. SignatureWant to propose a newsgroup? Browse these links for help: http://www.faqs.org/usenet/alt/ http://www.gweep.ca/~edmonds/usenet/good-newgroup.html http://nylon.net/alt/newgroup.htm For information on moderating a newsgroup: http://www.swcp.com/~dmckeon/mod-faq.html http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/faqs/mod-pitfalls.html http://www.landfield.com/moderators/ Tale discusses control messages: ftp://ftp.isc.org/pub/usenet/CONFIG/README For proposals that belong in the UK hierarchy: http://www.usenet.org.uk/ To locate a newsgroup control message: ftp://ftp.isc.org/pub/usenet/control/[hierarchy]/[group.name].gz Open with WinZip. Newsgroup Propagation Search: http://usenet.klaas.ca/groupsearch/ > THE website belonging to alt.autos.citroen is back on-line. snip I must have another look :)) > I have a few days left to make a webpresentation of my poor and broken > XM. > I'll drive a Xantia soon. > Could buy another brand but than I would be expelled form the > newsgroup I helped to create. Adrian and Whiskers are quite strict on > those things. Models built by defunct makers are probably OK. I'll admit to the Morris Minor 1000 gathering woodworm in the garage; one day my health and inclination will coincide enough for me to get it back on the road. Meanwhile the ZX continues to gather bird-droppings and dents parked in the street, and to reward me with undeserved reliability. If only the neighbours would learn how to park without bouncing off the other cars. I've long felt a mild urge to have a three-wheeler; I did have two Reliant Regals, in the '60s. The Messerschmitt bubble-cars in the '50s looked like fun. I have seen a 'kit car' trike made with the engine etc from a 2CV. I seem to be rambling so I'll stop now ;)) Signature-- ^^^^^^^^^^ -- Whiskers -- ~~~~~~~~~~ >> THE website belonging to alt.autos.citroen is back on-line. <cut> > fun. I have seen a 'kit car' trike made with the engine etc from a 2CV. Dutch built BURTON > I seem to be rambling so I'll stop now ;)) >>> THE website belonging to alt.autos.citroen is back on-line. > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Dutch built BURTON Good-looking cars; I certainly wouldn't mind having one. I think the one I saw was like their 'Lomax' <http://www.burtoncar.com/lomax-uk.asp>. I wish now that I'd thought of something like this when my 2CV was 'written off' in 1981. Signature-- ^^^^^^^^^^ -- Whiskers -- ~~~~~~~~~~ Message i.d.:<news:pk4803-ftg.ln1@ID-107770.user.individual.net>, by author Whiskers aka <catwheezel@operamail.com> inspired me, >> THE website belonging to alt.autos.citroen is back on-line. > > snip > > I must have another look :)) :-) Now where have you been? >> I have a few days left to make a webpresentation of my poor and >> broken XM. [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > > I seem to be rambling so I'll stop now ;)) It's refreshing. Please continue. Signatured:Johan; Certifiable me http://www.aacity.net Citroen Newsgroup Sponsored Message at http://shorterlink.com/?R95GLQ > Message i.d.:<news:pk4803-ftg.ln1@ID-107770.user.individual.net>, > by author Whiskers aka <catwheezel@operamail.com> inspired me, [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > :-) Now where have you been? Lurking in the shadows. Sort of 'film noir' but without the cigarette smoke. >>> I have a few days left to make a webpresentation of my poor and >>> broken XM. [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > > It's refreshing. Please continue. Freedom to roam, eh? I've seen an amusing re-bodied Reliant, with a small motor-launch shell and fore-deck instead of a car body. It looked as if it was a real boat, until it turned right when the car in front turned left. Another one I see sometimes has no body at all, and has been stretched so that the driver sits on a motor-cycle saddle behind the engine, with the gear-lever between the legs and a long horizontal steering-column, and an old bus seat welded onto the back for anyone daft enough to be a passenger. Someone recently announced that they wanted to inmport some Indian 'put-put' three-wheeled taxis to ply for hire in the middle of London (we already have a few pedal-powered rickshaws); I don't know if that will ever come to pass. The 'black cab' drivers won't like it. A TV show in the UK (a series on Channel 5 called "Britain's Worst Celebrity Driver Live!") recently made one of the celebrities drive a 2CV as 'punishment'. I think it was the car they were punishing, although that isn't what they meant. (The show may have been "Road Rage School" on BBC1; I get them mixed up). Bad Driving seems to be the new Cookery on British TV. Some of the driving is really scary; there are some right nutters out there. I, of course, am a faultless paragon of perfection behind the wheel ;)) Signature-- ^^^^^^^^^^ -- Whiskers -- ~~~~~~~~~~ Message i.d.:<news:as7d03-59f.ln1@ID-107770.user.individual.net>, by author Whiskers aka <catwheezel@operamail.com> inspired me, >> :-) Now where have you been? > > Lurking in the shadows. Sort of 'film noir' but without the > cigarette smoke. So you were the man in the black raincoat. I was wondering who that was. > Freedom to roam, eh? Always :-) > I've seen an amusing re-bodied Reliant, with a small motor-launch > shell and fore-deck instead of a car body. It looked as if it was [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > horizontal steering-column, and an old bus seat welded onto the > back for anyone daft enough to be a passenger. I guess those things won't be allowed to drive out here. You aren't even allowed to change the colour of a car, it doesn't match the papers. > Someone recently announced that they wanted to inmport some Indian > 'put-put' three-wheeled taxis to ply for hire in the middle of > London (we already have a few pedal-powered rickshaws); I don't > know if that will ever come to pass. The 'black cab' drivers won't > like it. It's the future in that clogged city. Go Dutch! Drive bikes! > A TV show in the UK (a series on Channel 5 called "Britain's Worst > Celebrity Driver Live!") recently made one of the celebrities drive [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > be the new Cookery on British TV. Some of the driving is really > scary; there are some right nutters out there. We have something similar out here. A so-called hidden camera and the driver doesn't know the recorder is running. Sure, we all believe that. Not. It's a show to attract viewers. I don't believe those shows. > I, of course, am a > faultless paragon of perfection behind the wheel ;)) Just like me ;-) Nut sure about Adrian. Signatured:Johan; Certifiable me http://www.aacity.net Citroen Newsgroup No, I am not demented, just gray haired > Message i.d.:<news:as7d03-59f.ln1@ID-107770.user.individual.net>, > by author Whiskers aka <catwheezel@operamail.com> inspired me, [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > So you were the man in the black raincoat. I was wondering who that > was. Do you like the wide-brimmed hat? With the beard and dark glasses I should be invisible. >> Freedom to roam, eh? > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > even allowed to change the colour of a car, it doesn't match the > papers. We can change the 'papers'. Perhaps our regulations for 'one-off' vehicles are more flexible than yours. The main thing here seems to be that there should be no sharp edges on the outside, and the brakes should be up to a certain standard. >> Someone recently announced that they wanted to inmport some Indian >> 'put-put' three-wheeled taxis to ply for hire in the middle of [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > It's the future in that clogged city. Go Dutch! Drive bikes! Pedal-cycles have become a lot more popular lately, thanks to the disruption caused by the recent bombs. I don't know how many of those people will continue to cycle to work through the winter - although once you get over the first shiver in the morning, cold weather is better than hot for cycling. >> A TV show in the UK (a series on Channel 5 called "Britain's Worst >> Celebrity Driver Live!") recently made one of the celebrities drive [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > that. Not. It's a show to attract viewers. I don't believe those > shows. Presumably the participants feel sufficiently rewarded for their humiliation. Some people seem to have no shame. >> I, of course, am a >> faultless paragon of perfection behind the wheel ;)) > > Just like me ;-) Nut sure about Adrian. He doesn't drive a Volvo, does he? Signature-- ^^^^^^^^^^ -- Whiskers -- ~~~~~~~~~~ Message i.d.:<news:7t7e03-qcn.ln1@ID-107770.user.individual.net>, by author Whiskers aka <catwheezel@operamail.com> inspired me, >>> I, of course, am a >>> faultless paragon of perfection behind the wheel ;)) >> >> Just like me ;-) Nut sure about Adrian. > > He doesn't drive a Volvo, does he? I thought Volvo drivers are the most boring drivers ever. That doesn't sound like Adam. Signatured:Johan; Certifiable me http://www.aacity.net Citroen Newsgroup Sponsored Message at http://shorterlink.com/?R95GLQ > Message i.d.:<news:7t7e03-qcn.ln1@ID-107770.user.individual.net>, > by author Whiskers aka <catwheezel@operamail.com> inspired me, [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > I thought Volvo drivers are the most boring drivers ever. That doesn't > sound like Adam. Around here, they are stereotyped as being careless of the safety or convenience of anyone else; their cars are big and heavy and and tank-like so they drive without consideration for others. (Citroen drivers are seen as harmless mild eccentrics). Signature-- ^^^^^^^^^^ -- Whiskers -- ~~~~~~~~~~ Message i.d.:<news:e0ji03-hdo.ln1@ID-107770.user.individual.net>, by author Whiskers aka <catwheezel@operamail.com> inspired me, >> Message i.d.:<news:7t7e03-qcn.ln1@ID-107770.user.individual.net>, >> by author Whiskers aka <catwheezel@operamail.com> inspired me, [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > convenience of anyone else; their cars are big and heavy and and > tank-like so they drive without consideration for others. Out here the only reason why people buy a Volvo is they think it's safe. Those are the people that drive slow where they are allowed to drive fast. They are the jam collectors. > (Citroen > drivers are seen as harmless mild eccentrics). That's Adam, and you, and I :-) Signatured:Johan; Certifiable me http://www.aacity.net Citroen Newsgroup [18 lines] [Press ENTER to retrieve this message.] [Press M to mark this message for later retrieval.] Message i.d.:<news:b6579d63e444fa271a8602438a7c26a4@nntp.aacity.net>, by author 2Rowdy aka <harry131313@gmail.com> inspired me, > THE website belonging to alt.autos.citroen is back on-line. Google hates me. It doesn't find me anymore. The (updated) links in the dmoz direcories are also gone. I don't understand. I need a vacation. Signatured:Johan; Certifiable me http://www.aacity.net Citroen Newsgroup Newsgroups Are used to spread virusses. Did your newsreader post that virus?
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