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Trey - 28 Oct 2004 07:42 GMT

I have a '99 Dak sport 4x4 5.2 auto with the OEM fog lights. I found the
PIAA 4" HID fog lights that would fit in the stock hole in the bumper and
still look OEM.

Looked up in the shop manual, the Fogs run on a single, 20A circuit. (20A
at 12v is ~ 240watts right?)
so running the two 35 watt HIDs would not be a problem. but how do I wire
the Fogs so they stay on when I flip on the high-beams?
I am assuming the Fog relay is tied into the lowbeam circuit so when the low
beams are cut off then the high beams come on, the fogs turn off too. Would
I be able to move the relay trigger wire for the fogs over the running
lights instead? the relay should be pretty low current. where might I do
this in the wiring?

thanks in advance for any help!

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Steve W. - 29 Oct 2004 06:18 GMT

I just have to ask, WHY do you want FOG lights on with the high beams.
They will just screw up your long distance vision with the high beams
on. The light closer to the vehicle
will cause more reflected light up close and that will cause your eyes
to close the pupils some. That will mean you now cannot
see as far or as well as you could without them on. If you think I'm FOS
try driving at night with the dome light on. It will do the same thing.
Fog lights are meant for FOG and limited visibility where you need to
light up the road under the fog, snow.

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> I have a '99 Dak sport 4x4 5.2 auto with the OEM fog lights. I found the
> PIAA 4" HID fog lights that would fit in the stock hole in the bumper and
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>
> thanks in advance for any help!

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Trey - 29 Oct 2004 06:46 GMT

> I just have to ask, WHY do you want FOG lights on with the high beams.
> They will just screw up your long distance vision with the high beams
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> Fog lights are meant for FOG and limited visibility where you need to
> light up the road under the fog, snow.

For off road applicationsI need the highbeams on to luminate a wider area,
as well as in front of the truck, and I need the fog lights to luminate up
close and around the truck so I can see directly in front of the truck.
For extended driving in the dark with the brights on, if its not foggy out,
I would not have the fogs on, and if it WAS foggy out, I would not have the
brights on anyways.

FOS? no, and actually, I usually have my dash lit on the lowest setting
while driving at night since I am usually more interested in the road in
front of me instead of the pretty colors on the dash.

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Scott Ruby - 30 Oct 2004 02:30 GMT

> I just have to ask, WHY do you want FOG lights on with the high beams.
> They will just screw up your long distance vision with the high beams
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> Fog lights are meant for FOG and limited visibility where you need to
> light up the road under the fog, snow.

I have the same situation as the original poster. Purchased a used truck
where a auxilary set of driving lights was added, but they used the wiring
from the standard fog lights. Would like to use then on high beam only to
help illuminate along side the road in teh winter (to avoid hitting moose).
But the way they are wired is they go off when the brights are used.

scott

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Hp - 30 Oct 2004 03:27 GMT

Why doesn't Dodge offer the lights in amber colored lenses? Tys ago I had a
set of H3's in amber and they worked great.

>> I just have to ask, WHY do you want FOG lights on with the high beams.
>> They will just screw up your long distance vision with the high beams
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> scott

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Van - 30 Oct 2004 06:18 GMT

The fog kit from dodge has the relay coil hot side connected to the low beam
12 volt wire. I just pulled the headlight and connected it to the parking
light 12 volt line instead. Fogs work anytime parking light is on,
including high beam. But like the first reply said, they have limited use
with the high beam. Turn them on and the area close to the truck is so
bright that the high beam seems dimmer in the distance. High beam by itself
works better to see the bambi's eyes.

> I have the same situation as the original poster. Purchased a used truck
> where a auxilary set of driving lights was added, but they used the wiring
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>
> scott

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Scott Ruby - 30 Oct 2004 21:21 GMT

> The fog kit from dodge has the relay coil hot side connected to the low beam
> 12 volt wire. I just pulled the headlight and connected it to the parking
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> bright that the high beam seems dimmer in the distance. High beam by itself
> works better to see the bambi's eyes.

Thanks for the info.
800-1200 lb moose don't quite qualify as bambi (maybe bam). While the high
beams do work ok, the more light you have out there on the sides of the
roads, the easier it is is to see the moose and slow down. Moose aren't
usually looking your way so you can't see thier eyes, and thier coats really
absorb light. It is especially nice to see them as far out as possible
since I'm mostly pullling a trailer load of snowmobile on a two lane road.
.

Scott

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