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OT: Thrill of a lifetime!!!

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Budd Cochran - 21 Nov 2004 14:36 GMT
Got back in last night from Phoenix and the return trip was the thrill of a
lifetime.

We hit light snow as we got closer to Monticello UT  going north on US 191,
which became heavy snow / slush / ice as we hit the town proper.

The thrill came when I discovered that a nighttime snowstorm, down a hill,
in a sporty front wheel drive with performance type tires, with a 700 pound
trailer on back, driving on wet snow and ice, is not the time to discover
the combined vehicle's handling characteristics.

But we somehow managed to miss everything, kept it fairly straight, then we
all checked our undies at the next stop. . . . .

Budd
Greg Surratt - 21 Nov 2004 17:59 GMT
Budd, net nanny told me you could have made this "on Topic" since it
provides justification to drive a 4x4 RAM in snowstorms!  :-)

Greg

>Got back in last night from Phoenix and the return trip was the thrill of a
>lifetime.
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>
>Budd
Budd Cochran - 21 Nov 2004 18:38 GMT
To tell the truth, I would have rather have had my old D-150. With the load
I had in the trailer, it would have been great in the snow.

Budd

> Budd, net nanny told me you could have made this "on Topic" since it
> provides justification to drive a 4x4 RAM in snowstorms!  :-)
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> >
> >Budd
theguy - 21 Nov 2004 18:08 GMT
>Got back in last night from Phoenix and the return trip was the thrill of a
>lifetime.
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>
>Budd

done that!  feel for you.  i drove through the northern cal mountains
this year, in february, thinking i'd missed the snows, towing a 10k
trailer.  decided to make up a little time and drive throught he
night.  murphys law of course, sent in a sneak snow storm.  top of the
mountain range the snow was a couple of inches and coming down so hard
i could hardley see.  my wife and kids slept through it!  when we got
off that mountain, i had to pry my hands off of the steering wheel.
Budd Cochran - 21 Nov 2004 18:41 GMT
Ya oughta try it with a LeBaron . . . .no, I can't think of anyone I'd wish
that on. Not even Bin Ladin.

Budd

> >Got back in last night from Phoenix and the return trip was the thrill of a
> >lifetime.
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> i could hardley see.  my wife and kids slept through it!  when we got
> off that mountain, i had to pry my hands off of the steering wheel.
miles - 22 Nov 2004 00:53 GMT
Good to hear you guys made it ok!

I just got back from Flagstaff.  Was up there most of sunday afternoon.
 Very wet slushy snow.  Heading north on I-17 from 20 miles south of
Flagstaff we counted 9 vehicles spun off in the median.  On the way back
heading south we counted 8.  The highway was not snowpacked, just light
slush.  I have never seen this many off the road in all the years I've
driven that route.  When snowpacked people seem to slow down but on
slush they drive 65mph+ in sports cars.  The tow truck drivers were
having a field day.

On highway 180 from Flagstaff to the Grand Canyon much of it was very
snowpacked.  Not a bit of blacktop showing.  We only saw a couple cars
spun off.  Funniest one was a TransAm that got stuck on the roadway up a
slight hill.  A bunch of college kids piled out and proceeded to push it
into a parking lot and then drove it down a slight hill in over 1 foot
deep snow.  They're gonna have a heck of a time pushing it back up out
of the lot.

> Got back in last night from Phoenix and the return trip was the thrill of a
> lifetime.
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> But we somehow managed to miss everything, kept it fairly straight, then we
> all checked our undies at the next stop. . . . .
Budd Cochran - 22 Nov 2004 14:01 GMT
> Good to hear you guys made it ok!

Well, there was some damage to some underwear . . . .

> I just got back from Flagstaff.  Was up there most of sunday afternoon.
>   Very wet slushy snow.  Heading north on I-17 from 20 miles south of
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> slush they drive 65mph+ in sports cars.  The tow truck drivers were
> having a field day.

You guys have still got some tourist caught down there from warm climates,
I'll bet. I've seen it before in the CO mountains.

> On highway 180 from Flagstaff to the Grand Canyon much of it was very
> snowpacked.  Not a bit of blacktop showing.  We only saw a couple cars
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> deep snow.  They're gonna have a heck of a time pushing it back up out
> of the lot.

89 and 160 were fine in AZ, but we ran into the stuff on 191 up by
Monticello UT. Btw, my last winter in Indiana before I moved to CO in 77 , I
spent a day helping people get unstuck . One was a black 70's TransAm that,
even with N50-15 tires couldn't get enough traction on the ice to roll over
a chunk of ice the size of a hen's egg.

And with the performance style tires I have on the LeBaron, I'm still
wondering how I made it home.

I think I'm going to find a set of plain rims that fit and mount mud / snows
on them for the front at least.

Budd
Greg Surratt - 22 Nov 2004 19:17 GMT
>> Good to hear you guys made it ok!
>
>Well, there was some damage to some underwear . . . .

Couldn't have been too bad if you didn't pinch holes in the seat
cushions.  ;-(
Budd Cochran - 22 Nov 2004 20:53 GMT
> >> Good to hear you guys made it ok!
> >
> >Well, there was some damage to some underwear . . . .
>
> Couldn't have been too bad if you didn't pinch holes in the seat
> cushions.  ;-(

Ok, I cheated and had bought the higher quality Genuine J.C. Whitney
simulated leather vinyl seat covers before the trip . . .they got the holes
ad not the original cloth covers.

The pucker factor was darn near bad enough to make hemorrhoids on a persons
tonsils.

Budd
RamMan@dodgecity.cc - 22 Nov 2004 23:59 GMT
>Ok, I cheated and had bought the higher quality Genuine J.C. Whitney
>simulated leather vinyl seat covers before the trip . . .they got the holes
>ad not the original cloth covers.

"Higher Quality Genuine J.C. Whitney Simulated Leather Vinyl"

Jeeeeeeesus!!!! All that was lacking was "Naugahyde"

That's as bad as a genuine realistic plastic replica!

Positively frickin' amazing the S%#! people will buy.
Budd Cochran - 23 Nov 2004 00:13 GMT
If you would be willing to buy me some better seat covers then fine, do it,
otherwise, shut up. It's my car and my money, what little is left over after
buying my medications out of my disability check.

Budd

> >Ok, I cheated and had bought the higher quality Genuine J.C. Whitney
> >simulated leather vinyl seat covers before the trip . . .they got the holes
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>
> Positively frickin' amazing the S%#! people will buy.
Nosey - 22 Nov 2004 00:57 GMT
> Got back in last night from Phoenix and the return trip was the
> thrill of a lifetime.
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>
> Budd

LeBaron?
Budd Cochran - 22 Nov 2004 14:05 GMT
I forgot, not everyone has heard the news . . .my eldest son took his
discharge from the Navy last February so he could go to Wyoming Tech to
learn to customize vehicles. A year before, he decided to buy his dear sweet
wonderful dad ( me, of course) a car for the next Christmas. He found a low
mileage 95 LeBaron GTC convertible in great shape in Jacksonville FL for a
great price. He missed coming home for Christmas, but brought it in Feb for
my birthday.

So . . .I got the convert and he got the 79 D-150.

Budd

> > Got back in last night from Phoenix and the return trip was the
> > thrill of a lifetime.
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>
> LeBaron?
Jeff Mayner - 22 Nov 2004 07:03 GMT
> Got back in last night from Phoenix and the return trip was the
> thrill of a lifetime.
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>
> Budd

:-)

Jeff

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"Every time I hear the news
That old feeling comes back on;
We're waist deep in the Big Muddy
And the Big Fool says to push on."

- Pete Seeger, 1967
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Budd Cochran - 22 Nov 2004 14:07 GMT
<LOL> I can laugh at it now, Jeff, but, trust me, for 75 miles at an average
of 40 miles an hour I was far too busy to laugh.

Budd

> > Got back in last night from Phoenix and the return trip was the
> > thrill of a lifetime.
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> - Pete Seeger, 1967
> ---
bk49 - 26 Nov 2004 07:08 GMT
> <LOL> I can laugh at it now, Jeff, but, trust me, for 75 miles at an
> average
> of 40 miles an hour I was far too busy to laugh.

I'll bet. My Pops and I had an experience much the same driving across
Arizona and New Mexico, 2 days after Christmas, in '96. Driving in a '92
Nissan Pathfinder, at least it was 4X4, in blizzard conditions. We saw maybe
10 cars/trucks the whole way across from the border of  AZ to Albequerque.

I had just had major shoulder surgery less than a week before the trip. My
Dad's brother had fallen gravely ill and had only a couple of days to live,
it was his time, and we could not get a seat on any airlines on such short
notice. I had never done anything like that before and I hope to never do
anything like it again.

We laugh about it now but it was a very serious situation we had gotten
ourselves into and at the time we were not laughing at all. I began to think
the whole thing was a stupid idea when we couldn't get the wipers to work
any longer because the windshield was covered by  ice and they became
embedded in it. Ever stood outside the car, in sub-zero temps with 40 mile
an hour winds blowing snow and sleet, trying to flick a bic lighter?  ;-)

Never again.

Jeff

> Budd
>
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>> - Pete Seeger, 1967
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Budd Cochran - 26 Nov 2004 13:44 GMT
> > <LOL> I can laugh at it now, Jeff, but, trust me, for 75 miles at an
> > average
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>
> Jeff

Too many think a 4X4 can go anywhere. No special skills or anything else
required. Too many think they don't need to slow down ( Had a guy pass us at
close to 60 mph on that slick road but I think he got the message when his
Silverado 4X4 starting trying to swap ends . . .) and too many think the are
invincible. And some just simply leave their brains at home.

Those temperatures remind me of central Indiana . . .BRRR!!! I was seriously
debating on trying to find a room for the night, but decided to try and get
home anyway. It was good we did because the next day the road was impassable
for the whole day.

Budd
 
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