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Car Forum / Dodge / Dodge Trucks / February 2005

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cummins engine "miss"

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Brian - 23 Feb 2005 02:02 GMT
Today, driving at a steady highway speed (99 dodge pickup), I experienced a
problem with my Cummins diesel engine which if it had of been a gas engine I
would have called it a high speed "miss" . The truck seemed to loose a bit
of power when going up a slight incline. The problem seemed to disappear but
again, on an incline, the "miss" was somewhat evident. I will take the truck
in to the dealer as soon as possible.  I did open the water collection valve
and the problem is still there. About 60,000 miles on the engine now. Any
ideas?
Tom Lawrence - 23 Feb 2005 02:50 GMT
> and the problem is still there. About 60,000 miles on the engine now. Any
> ideas?

Could be a lift pump just beginning to fail....  very common (unfortunately)
on those engines.  If it's a good shop, they'll do a pressure/flow check on
the lift pump.  If it's a mediocre shop, they'll hand the keys back saying
they couldn't replicate the problem.

Fuel pressure gauges should be mandatory additions to any 24V engine.  It
doesn't take very long for a failing $150 lift pump to trash a $2,000+
injection pump.
Brent D - 23 Feb 2005 05:06 GMT
    I agree with Tom.  Lift pump is probably producing insufficient
flow, which will result in an injection pump soon enough.  A pressure
gauge should come standard on the dash next to the fuel level.

    Brent
Nosey - 23 Feb 2005 08:07 GMT
> Today, driving at a steady highway speed (99 dodge pickup), I
> experienced a problem with my Cummins diesel engine which if it had
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> as possible.  I did open the water collection valve and the problem
> is still there. About 60,000 miles on the engine now. Any ideas?

The crankshaft position sensor may be bad.
Brian - 23 Feb 2005 16:19 GMT
>> Today, driving at a steady highway speed (99 dodge pickup), I
>> experienced a problem with my Cummins diesel engine which if it had
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>
> The crankshaft position sensor may be bad.

interesting thought, as the crankshaft positioning sensor  was replaced a
couple of months ago. The warning then was a "check engine " light.
The fact that the "miss" is not consistent concerns me that they will not be
able to determine the exact problem. I will respond once I get the truck
fixed. Thanks to all who offered ideas
Brian - 24 Feb 2005 20:04 GMT
It was the lift pump (expensive little devil!)

>>> Today, driving at a steady highway speed (99 dodge pickup), I
>>> experienced a problem with my Cummins diesel engine which if it had
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> be able to determine the exact problem. I will respond once I get the
> truck fixed. Thanks to all who offered ideas
Roy - 24 Feb 2005 21:10 GMT
> It was the lift pump (expensive little devil!)

Are they still around $140.00?? At 60,000 miles you are ahead of the game.
It would probably a good idea to get a fuel pressure gauge

Roy
Brian - 25 Feb 2005 00:18 GMT
Well this is Canada eh! Was quoted $600 to remove and replace with part
included, so did not know what was actual part price. When I picked up the
truck was surprised with the fact my warrantee covered the job with $100
deductible.  So cannot tell you the part price after all.

>> It was the lift pump (expensive little devil!)
>>
> Are they still around $140.00?? At 60,000 miles you are ahead of the game.
> It would probably a good idea to get a fuel pressure gauge
>
> Roy
Frank - 25 Feb 2005 21:17 GMT
Your injection pump may not be too far behind.  Hopefully it will fail while
still under warranty.

> Well this is Canada eh! Was quoted $600 to remove and replace with part
> included, so did not know what was actual part price. When I picked up the
> truck was surprised with the fact my warrantee covered the job with $100
> deductible.  So cannot tell you the part price after all.
 
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