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Car Forum / Dodge / Dodge Trucks / March 200501 caravan - wipers keep running
Hello, I have an 01 Dodge Caravan 3.3L and lately once and awhile driving, the wipers come on all by themselves and now i seen them come on from the house while it was sitting in the driveway parked with no key! It is very cold out here and wondering if that might have something to do with it? Does anyone know what this could be, its very weird. Im afraid I will have a drained battery and worn down wipers in the morning. :( Thanks Mike > Hello, > I have an 01 Dodge Caravan 3.3L and lately once and awhile driving, the [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Thanks > Mike The biggest problem was the mulifunction switch on this vehicle. You may want to take the car in and have the dealer check for any fault codes, especially in the BCM Thanks maxpower, but I dont see any fault codes. What is the BCM anyway, thanks Mike >> Hello, >> I have an 01 Dodge Caravan 3.3L and lately once and awhile driving, the [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > want to take the car in and have the dealer check for any fault codes, > especially in the BCM > Thanks maxpower, but I dont see any fault codes. What is the BCM anyway, > thanks [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > want to take the car in and have the dealer check for any fault codes, > > especially in the BCM Im sorry, BCM Body Control Module > > Thanks maxpower, but I dont see any fault codes. What is the BCM > anyway, [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > > > > Im sorry, BCM Body Control Module IOW, yet another useless part that serves no real purpose other than to make the vehicle increasingly more complex and all the more difficult to service outside of the dealership.  SignatureIf at first you don't succeed, you're not cut out for skydiving > > > Thanks maxpower, but I dont see any fault codes. What is the BCM > > anyway, [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > the vehicle increasingly more complex and all the more difficult to service > outside of the dealership. > > > > Thanks maxpower, but I dont see any fault codes. What is the BCM > > > anyway, [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] > service > > outside of the dealership. I understand that but most of what it does is really unnecessary. The dome light, windshield wipers, climate control, head lights, and various other components seemed to work pretty well on their own prior to the introduction of the BCM. The main problem with it is that it tends to put all of the eggs in one basket and can cost big $$$ to the owner to fix even minor problems once out of warranty. SignatureIf at first you don't succeed, you're not cut out for skydiving >> > > > Thanks maxpower, but I dont see any fault codes. What is the >> > > > BCM [quoted text clipped - 47 lines] > eggs in one basket and can cost big $$$ to the owner to fix even minor > problems once out of warranty. If people wouldn't buy it then it wouldn't be built. Folks have to have dome lights that fade to off instead of just shutting off. Folks have to have climate control instead of a cable operated heat lever. How about the speed sensitive delay wipers?? Don't blame the car manufacturer for this crap, blame the people that buy it. And I'm as guilty as the next. I don't think I could survive without the power sliding doors and tailgate on the T&C. <G> Denny > If people wouldn't buy it then it wouldn't be built. Folks have to have dome > lights that fade to off instead of just shutting off. Folks have to have [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > And I'm as guilty as the next. I don't think I could survive without the > power sliding doors and tailgate on the T&C. <G> I wish I could disable the dome light timer after opening the door of my '99 Ram. I hate the fact that the dome light stays on for a long time (or until I turn the key to run) after entering the truck. When I get in the truck after dark at a strange location I get nervous when I can't see out because of the damn glare caused by the dome light. I think I'd prefer to find the ignition switch with my key in the dark. I know if I can't, I could crack the door open to make the dome light come on again. > > > > > Thanks maxpower, but I dont see any fault codes. What is the BCM > > > > anyway, [quoted text clipped - 43 lines] > eggs in one basket and can cost big $$$ to the owner to fix even minor > problems once out of warranty. It was mainly installed to save on wire for production cost >> > Thanks maxpower, but I dont see any fault codes. What is the BCM >> anyway, [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] > service > outside of the dealership. Yup! We design 'em that way! ;^) Mike > >> > Thanks maxpower, but I dont see any fault codes. What is the BCM > >> anyway, [quoted text clipped - 38 lines] > > Mike Mike you gave away our secret > >> > Thanks maxpower, but I dont see any fault codes. What is the BCM > >> anyway, [quoted text clipped - 38 lines] > > Mike Yep, and on purpose too. SignatureIf at first you don't succeed, you're not cut out for skydiving >> >> > Thanks maxpower, but I dont see any fault codes. What is the BCM >> >> anyway, [quoted text clipped - 44 lines] > > Yep, and on purpose too. So what is done in this situation, does the BCM require replacing?? Mike >>> >> > Thanks maxpower, but I dont see any fault codes. What is the >>> >> > BCM [quoted text clipped - 50 lines] > So what is done in this situation, does the BCM require replacing?? > Mike And where is the BCM located? > >>> >> > Thanks maxpower, but I dont see any fault codes. What is the > >>> >> > BCM [quoted text clipped - 50 lines] > > So what is done in this situation, does the BCM require replacing?? > > Mike The symptoms that you are describing makes that sound like a strong possibility. Since your vehicle may still be under warranty, I would have the dealer take a look at it. I would suspect that this is not an inexpensive part. > And where is the BCM located? I have no idea where it could be in your vehicle but there are others in here that may. Picking up a FSM may be a good idea if you intend to do any work on that vehicle. Just looking through it can give you an idea what jobs may be beyond your abilities before you start them and get yourself into trouble. SignatureIf at first you don't succeed, you're not cut out for skydiving > > >>> >> > Thanks maxpower, but I dont see any fault codes. What is the > > >>> >> > BCM [quoted text clipped - 66 lines] > jobs may be beyond your abilities before you start them and get yourself > into trouble. The BCM is located on the left side by the emergency brake assembly, it has to be ordered thru Chrysler only and programmed before installed, most likely your problem is going to be in the multifunction switch.. the BCM is a cost of around 300.00 part only > > > >>> >> > Thanks maxpower, but I dont see any fault codes. What is > the [quoted text clipped - 76 lines] > likely your problem is going to be in the multifunction switch.. the BCM is > a cost of around 300.00 part only How would the multi-function switch be to blame for this? Unless DC made some changes, I'm unaware of the wipers being active when the ignition switch is off and his primary concern is that the wipers are activating on their own with nobody even in the vehicle and the vehicle shut off. It looks more like the BCM itself is acting up and turning them on regardless of input from the ignition or the MFS. SignatureIf at first you don't succeed, you're not cut out for skydiving > > > > >>> >> > Thanks maxpower, but I dont see any fault codes. What is > > the [quoted text clipped - 88 lines] > looks more like the BCM itself is acting up and turning them on regardless > of input from the ignition or the MFS. The grease that is used in the switches cause most of the phantom wipe problems and other related problems, And its not just the Caravans, I had a repair job today on a 2001 PT Cruiser that could not get the fog lamps off, even when the key was in his pocket, He pulled the fuse and bought it in......once again, Mutlifuntion switch cured the problem. Not to say that the BCM is or is not the problem on the OP post, butt most problems are related to that switch. when you start multiplexing you save on weight and wiring, thus keeps the cost down. but problems like these start to creep up.And thats why we need the BCM.....as someone put it....so the customer brings it to the dealer |
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