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Car Forum / Dodge / Dodge Trucks / March 2005WAY OT: Internet Explorer question
I have spent the last two days removing a dialer from my computer. All seems quiet and it hasn't reappeared. I believe that I picked it up at a web site. That web site is set as my home page in IE. I change it but it keeps coming back. Does anyone have an idea as to what keeps changing it back? The only way that I dare use IE is to open it through a link in an email in Outlook Express. beekeep >I have spent the last two days removing a dialer from my computer. >All seems quiet and it hasn't reappeared. I believe that I picked it [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > >beekeep Your Browser has been Hijacked. A good source for info is alt dot privacy dot spyware. Here's just a few tips on some free utilities. These utilities should be run in Safe Mode and Normal Mode. They also need to be updated regularly. Install them, update them then use them. Get Ad-Aware SE Personal Edition, here: http://www.lavasoftusa.com/support/download/ Another excellent program is SpyBot Search and Destroy available here: http://security.kolla.de/ Also Spyware Blaster http://www.javacoolsoftware.com/spywareblaster.html HiJackThis is a utility that scans your system and shows all startup processes and Browser add-ons. It enables you to delete unwanted entries. This is not a tool for a novice. It has a feature that enables you to save a log file which you can paste into a utility on a web site that will advise you on what entries are suspect. Download HijackThis, free, here: http://209.133.47.200/~merijn/files/HijackThis.exe Have your log file checked here: http://hjt.iamnotageek.com/ Microsoft has also come out with an anti-spyware utility. Check their site too. > >I have spent the last two days removing a dialer from my computer. > >All seems quiet and it hasn't reappeared. I believe that I picked it [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] > Microsoft has also come out with an anti-spyware utility. Check their > site too. Spybot search and destroy is another good freeware program >> Your Browser has been Hijacked. >> [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] >> http://www.javacoolsoftware.com/spywareblaster.html >Spybot search and destroy is another good freeware program Then go to http://www.mozilla.org/products/firefox/releases/1.0.html and dump the micro$oft trash_ > > Then go to http://www.mozilla.org/products/firefox/releases/1.0.html and dump > the micro$oft trash_ I'm presently using FireFox and find it works very well. Small, clean and not cluttered with useless bells and whistles. Actually It is a toss up as to which one I like best, FireFox or Netscape 7.0 which I also like. I have always hated IE and avoid it at all times. FireFox recommends a program called "Thunderbird" as a mail and news reader which I'm using now and again it is a good program except for it's inability to let you click on a link when the reader is open and go directly to that location. Instead you have to copy the link location and then paste it into FireFox to get there. Very annoying but doable. Firefox had no problems with links itself. BTW, both of these programs are free from Mozilla. Jerry Suddenly, without warning, Jerry exclaimed (3/5/2005 3:59 PM): > > FireFox > recommends a program called "Thunderbird" as a mail and news reader > which I'm using now and again it is a good program except for it's [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Jerry Jerry: Check the Thunderbird extensions, there's one (called linky, I think) that does allow you to click on links, which will then open your browser. jmc > > > [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > Jerry I have been using firefox as my newsgroup reader for the last 4 months, been working well dale >> > >> [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > been working well > dale try again, it's thunderbird Only real problem is that with a lot of folks switching to FireFox / Mozilla is that now the hackers are starting to write viri to attack them. There have already been a few released that are as bad as anything that attacked MS stuff.  SignatureSteve Williams > > > > > [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > been working well > dale >Only real problem is that with a lot of folks switching to FireFox / >Mozilla is that now the hackers are starting to write viri to attack >them. There have already been a few released that are as bad as anything >that attacked MS stuff. absolutely. firefox was great only because too few people used it for it to be wrth the hackers time. that isn't true any longer. before anyone jusmps all over me, yes i know there are other differences. firefox is smaller, a little faster as a result and uses less overhead. norton is a very very good anti virus program but no program will catch everything. i have tried most of them out there, including the currently popular avg, but they can all be fooled. you should also have spyware on your computer. spybot is good, spyguard is good, ad aware is good. those are all free and they all do a good job. > norton is a very very good anti virus program but no program will > catch everything. i have tried most of them out there, including the > currently popular avg, but they can all be fooled. you should also > have spyware on your computer. spybot is good, spyguard is good, ad > aware is good. those are all free and they all do a good job. Be careful now, little Moparboy boy will accuse you of slandering his favorite product and of being a $30 dollar el cheap-o. Jerry >> norton is a very very good anti virus program but no program will >> catch everything. i have tried most of them out there, including the [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Jerry B-U-R-P, WHAT!! SignatureMoParMaN---Remove Clothes To Reply! --SCUD Coordinates 32.61204 North: 96.92993 West-- > > > [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > Jerry I'm using Thunderbird as my email and NG reader. Also using Firefox as my default browser. I have no problem clicking on links in email or NG. I have no Firefox extensions/plugins installed. > > >> Then go to http://www.mozilla.org/products/firefox/releases/1.0.html and dump [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > >Jerry =========================== Add me as another FIREFOX user....very satisfied... I did try Thunderbird ....but reverted back to Eudora for e-mail within a day or two... Never tried it for reading Newsgroups since I am happy as hell using Forte Agent... That said...I am not one to switch programs just for the hell of it... My "financial" program is Managing Your Money which is a DOS Program... been working for me for years... Bob Griffiths snip > Then go to http://www.mozilla.org/products/firefox/releases/1.0.html and dump > the micro$oft trash_ What he said. But It's release 1.0.1 now. >I have spent the last two days removing a dialer from my computer. > All seems quiet and it hasn't reappeared. I believe that I picked it [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > beekeep You probably have some sort of spy ware that is hi jacking the page. Run "spy bot" or "ad-aware" and see if that does the trick. Or "hi jack this" a bit more work but get's it done. They are mostly freebies at: www.download.com Roy >I have spent the last two days removing a dialer from my computer. > All seems quiet and it hasn't reappeared. I believe that I picked it [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > beekeep I could tell you the proper way to do it if your familar with registry hacks, but if your not, you better try these other options first. Is it porn? SignatureMoParMaN---Remove Clothes To Reply! --SCUD Coordinates 32.61204 North: 96.92993 West-- >>I have spent the last two days removing a dialer from my computer. >> All seems quiet and it hasn't reappeared. I believe that I picked it [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > hacks, but if your not, you better try these other options first. Is it > porn? We are talkin' beekeep, it is barnyard animals.<G> Eoy > MoParMaN---Remove Clothes To Reply! > --SCUD Coordinates 32.61204 North: 96.92993 West-- >>>I have spent the last two days removing a dialer from my computer. >>> All seems quiet and it hasn't reappeared. I believe that I picked it [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Eoy Okay, he should hire a pro. SignatureMoParMaN---Remove Clothes To Reply! --SCUD Coordinates 32.61204 North: 96.92993 West-- Suddenly, without warning, beekeep exclaimed (3/5/2005 9:53 AM): > I have spent the last two days removing a dialer from my computer. > All seems quiet and it hasn't reappeared. I believe that I picked it [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > beekeep Install AdAware *and* SpyBot, links have been provided by others. You should run both - each catches spyware the other does not. Also, you should run a firewall (ZoneAlarm is free, 's what I use) and keep your virus scanner up to date as well. These days, spyware protection, firewall, and virus scanner are all necessary basic protections. Scary and annoying, but there you are. Then, as mentioned, stop using IE and use Firefox (http://www.getfirefox.com). Much more secure... jmc >Suddenly, without warning, beekeep exclaimed (3/5/2005 9:53 AM): >> I have spent the last two days removing a dialer from my computer. [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] >Then, as mentioned, stop using IE and use Firefox >(http://www.getfirefox.com). Much more secure... Once you get it good and clean, go here, get this: http://www1.prevx.com/ A bit of a hassle in that it prompts you every time it senses a potentially dangerous change to your system, but it seems to do it's job very well... >jmc DJ >I have spent the last two days removing a dialer from my computer. > All seems quiet and it hasn't reappeared. I believe that I picked it [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > beekeep This is my standard answer to people that ask me what to do about an infected computer, they don't have to be done in this order but I've found it works best. TR I would download and run Ad-Aware, (free) be sure to update it after you install it. http://www.lavasoftusa.com/software/adaware/ You should also run Spybot Search and Destroy, (free) http://www.safer-networking.org I ran this new Microsoft program and it found 3 things that the other programs I use didn't. http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/spyware/software/default.mspx Then run at least two of these free online virus scan programs, RAV http://www.ravantivirus.com/scan/ Panda: http://www.pandasoftware.com/activescan/ BitDefender http://www.bitdefender.com/scan/license.php After you are sure the machine is clean download and install SpywareBlaster(free) to help keep it that way http://www.javacoolsoftware.com/spywareblaster.html Good Luck, Tom >>I have spent the last two days removing a dialer from my computer. >> All seems quiet and it hasn't reappeared. I believe that I picked it [quoted text clipped - 36 lines] > Good Luck, > Tom I love this. I Norton everything and never even have to update it, it's smart and does it itself. Course, I'm in this business and it's the best product out there, if ya'll weren't so cheap, you wouldn't need 5 damn programs to take care of this issue. Also note, we don't allow Adware on any domain we service, reason being, it also installs its out spybot.....The cycle never ends. 30 bucks is cheap for something that provides firewall, email scans, web scans, worm protection, system scans, and automatic live updates, daily if you so desire. If you run with the Auto-Protect always on, you never have to worry about nothing.... But what the hell, we make millions a year fixing contaminated PC's. I guess I shouldn't complain. SignatureMoParMaN---Remove Clothes To Reply! --SCUD Coordinates 32.61204 North: 96.92993 West-- >>>I have spent the last two days removing a dialer from my computer. >>> All seems quiet and it hasn't reappeared. I believe that I picked it [quoted text clipped - 48 lines] > But what the hell, we make millions a year fixing contaminated PC's. I > guess I shouldn't complain. Gotta ask. I run Norton Systemworks. It has it all. But I still run the freebies and they every so often come up with something. Usually a miner or some such. Why is that? roy > Gotta ask. I run Norton Systemworks. It has it all. But I still run the > freebies and they every so often come up with something. Usually a miner or > some such. Why is that? Ditto here..... I also run Norton but contrary to what some would claim, Norton doesn't catch everything so I also have zonealarm and spybot installed.. Jerry >> Gotta ask. I run Norton Systemworks. It has it all. But I still run the >> freebies and they every so often come up with something. Usually a miner [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Jerry Norton should be installed on a new system, before you ever connect the nic cable. Failing to do this with any virus program is bad news. Never connect a cable to your PC before you install a firewall. Install these programs as you as suppose to and you'll only need one program. SignatureMoParMaN---Remove Clothes To Reply! --SCUD Coordinates 32.61204 North: 96.92993 West-- Suddenly, without warning, MoParMaN exclaimed (3/6/2005 9:47 PM): > Norton should be installed on a new system, before you ever connect the nic > cable. Failing to do this with any virus program is bad news. Never connect > a cable to your PC before you install a firewall. > > Install these programs as you as suppose to and you'll only need one > program. I hear ya there. I once - once! - started up my broadband connection without ensuring ZoneAlarm was running first (I was troubleshooting), and in the 30 seconds before I got ZA active, I managed to get a virus that Norton's didn't detect (yes, it was updated). Forget which one, now. ALWAYS have a firewall running. Email isn't the only way for your 'puter to get infected. >>>Gotta ask. I run Norton Systemworks. It has it all. But I still run the >>>freebies and they every so often come up with something. Usually a miner [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > Install these programs as you as suppose to and you'll only need one > program. Sounds nice but unfortunately it doesn't work that way. Got the Wife a new computer year before last and Norton was already installed as part of the software package. Signed on to the net just to establish her email account, couldn't have been on longer than 2 minutes. Withing that time got the Blaster worm, Norton never saw it coming. A lot of these programs are free and they work ............. why limit yourself when you don't have to. Jerry Jerry >>>>Gotta ask. I run Norton Systemworks. It has it all. But I still run the >>>>freebies and they every so often come up with something. Usually a miner [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > > Jerry Deer Jerry, Blaster was written to avoid all firewall programs, it circumvented all virus protection known on this earth. It infested ever major corporate computer on earth. It had nothing to do with Norton, please refrain from slandering products you know nothing about. SignatureMoParMaN---Remove Clothes To Reply! --SCUD Coordinates 32.61204 North: 96.92993 West-- On 3/7/05 5:55 AM, in article fjXWd.1689$WK2.83@newssvr30.news.prodigy.com, >>>>> Gotta ask. I run Norton Systemworks. It has it all. But I still run the >>>>> freebies and they every so often come up with something. Usually a miner [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > > Deer Jerry, Still got deer (dear) on his mind :)))) > On 3/7/05 5:55 AM, in article > fjXWd.1689$WK2.83@newssvr30.news.prodigy.com, [quoted text clipped - 35 lines] >> Deer Jerry, > Still got deer (dear) on his mind :)))) I'm addicted to deer hunting, bow, rifle, or spear. It doesn't matter to me. SignatureMoParMaN---Remove Clothes To Reply! --SCUD Coordinates 32.61204 North: 96.92993 West-- > > Deer Jerry, Blaster was written to avoid all firewall programs, it > circumvented all virus protection known on this earth. It infested ever > major corporate computer on earth. It had nothing to do with Norton, please > refrain from slandering products you know nothing about. Deer Mo,I don't give a damn what it was written for, Norton did not detect it and I don't believe it was written to avoid all programs. if that were the case it would still be raising hell, which it is not. You are the one that said If you have Norton and a firewall you are all set to go with complete safety. Now you are back tracking and saying but, but, but....... Norton is ok but it is not the God send you think it is. Besides why should I know anything other than what your Norton friends advertise and that is buy me and you are safe. If it didn't do it's advertised job then I have a right to complain about it......... Jerry > > >> Deer Jerry, Blaster was written to avoid all firewall programs, it [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Deer Mo,I don't give a damn what it was written for, Norton did not detect > it and I don't believe it was written to avoid all programs. NO PROBLEM CAUGHT THE BLASTER, maybe you can here that. Are you sure you don't really drive an F150. > that were the case it would still be raising hell, which it is not. You > are the one that said If you have Norton and a firewall you are all set [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > advertise and that is buy me and you are safe. If it didn't do it's > advertised job then I have a right to complain about it......... Here's how this works. Every major company in the world runs a Norton. There might be a reason for this. I'm thinking you can't afford the 30 bucks a year for the subscriptions myself. I don't care if you buy it or not. It's people like you that keep me in business, so run whatever you think works. SignatureMoParMaN---Remove Clothes To Reply! --SCUD Coordinates 32.61204 North: 96.92993 West-- >> > >>> Deer Jerry, Blaster was written to avoid all firewall programs, it [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > not. It's people like you that keep me in business, so run whatever you > think works. Oops, I meant NO PROGRAM CAUGHT THE BLASTER....Could you hear it that time? SignatureMoParMaN---Remove Clothes To Reply! --SCUD Coordinates 32.61204 North: 96.92993 West-- > Here's how this works. Every major company in the world runs a Norton. There > might be a reason for this. I'm thinking you can't afford the 30 bucks a > year for the subscriptions myself. I don't care if you buy it or not. It's > people like you that keep me in business, so run whatever you think works. Awww..... poor baby ....... did your panties get knotted up. I'm thinking you don't have the brains to comprehend what you read or you simply can't read. Did you miss the part where I said I USE NORTON. So, I don't care if your care or not. Now stop trying to think for yourself, apparently it is very painful for you. Jerry >> Here's how this works. Every major company in the world runs a Norton. >> There might be a reason for this. I'm thinking you can't afford the 30 [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Jerry I think your an a.shole, but that's just my opinion. But, so am I, Touche' SignatureMoParMaN---Remove Clothes To Reply! --SCUD Coordinates 32.61204 North: 96.92993 West-- Suddenly, without warning, MoParMaN exclaimed (3/7/2005 11:05 PM): > Here's how this works. Every major company in the world runs a Norton. There > might be a reason for this. I'm thinking you can't afford the 30 bucks a > year for the subscriptions myself. I don't care if you buy it or not. It's > people like you that keep me in business, so run whatever you think works. Um. Not! One of the biggest employers in the US, one that is often specifically targeted for all sorts of attacks, uses McAfee. I use Nortons and AVG at home, but could change at a moment's notice, if Norton's starts misbehaving again. Bounced back and forth between the Big 2 a few times over the last 10 years (both have had their problems), and have tried a few of the "other" av products as well. AVG is my current favorite. jmc > Suddenly, without warning, MoParMaN exclaimed (3/7/2005 11:05 PM): > [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > jmc There's several other client anti-virus and really total protection solutions, other than these two. They happen to be priced where corporate America can afford them. Serious users run Cheyenne Servers and other products that far out perform Norton and Mca. Norton comes in at about 20 bucks a user and for the company I work for, there are 250,000 employees, so you can do the math. Running Cheyenne Apache servers and services the cost is around 2 to 3 hundred a user... Norton and McAfee provide the best, cheapest solution. Most people don't realize that adware and the ad-buster programs are actually viruses/worms too. Once you install them, you can never get rid of the, they tunnel down in the registry and the only way to rid yourself of them is to do delpar and low level format your drive and start over..... But, what the hell do I know.... SignatureMoParMaN---Remove Clothes To Reply! --SCUD Coordinates 32.61204 North: 96.92993 West-- > Once you install them, you can never get rid of the, they tunnel down > in the registry and the only way to rid yourself of them is to do delpar and You can use InCtrl5 http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,4149,9882,00.asp to track registry changes. > low level format your drive and start over..... Low level format? Hahaahaa!!! > But, what the hell do I know.... Not very much. >> Gotta ask. I run Norton Systemworks. It has it all. But I still run the >> freebies and they every so often come up with something. Usually a miner or [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > >Jerry ======================== Gave up on Norton interfering with all my HOME computers a few years agol....NOTHING with the name NORTON will ever be installed on any of my Computers ever again...NO WAY... a Norton MC would be welcome in the garage however.. Bob Griffiths >>> Gotta ask. I run Norton Systemworks. It has it all. But I still run the >>> freebies and they every so often come up with something. Usually a miner [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > Bob Griffiths All those issues where fixed years ago, some people just love burning coal and living with blinders on. SignatureMoParMaN---Remove Clothes To Reply! --SCUD Coordinates 32.61204 North: 96.92993 West-- Suddenly, without warning, Bob G exclaimed (3/6/2005 11:31 PM): >>>Gotta ask. I run Norton Systemworks. It has it all. But I still run the >>>freebies and they every so often come up with something. Usually a miner or [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > Bob Griffiths ha! I said the same thing about McAfee a while back, I could never get the autoupdate to work, and sometimes when it did the system wouldn't be bootable after the upgrade. I'd ditched Norton's even further back, for similar reasons. Now I'm back to Nortons, which works very well on this computer (which is networked), but wouldn't install on my laptop for some reason. So I use AVG on the laptop, and that works very well. May move to AVG on this system too, when my Norton's update subscription expires... Oh, and hubby still uses McAfee, without incident, on his machine. No need for turf wars. Use whatever will install properly, and that keeps your data safe. There's lots of very good products out there. jmc >>>>I have spent the last two days removing a dialer from my computer. >>>> All seems quiet and it hasn't reappeared. I believe that I picked it [quoted text clipped - 54 lines] > > roy Some things some programs pick up as suspect, are treated as viruses/worms. Programs that know what there doing treat them as the file they are. Sometimes virus programs will delete, hide, or suspend these files from use. At some point one of the programs you use will call for this one file, prolly rarely used and your program will hang up or blue screen or whatever it's doing now a days. We see it all the time, were some of these free virus programs will kill a file that lets say Microsoft just installed as a security file on your computer......Crap happens... I only run stuff that works together. Microsoft and Linux and Norton do this. Just because a virus program says it found a virus, doesn't make it so. You have to research the so called virus and determine what it is and then deal with it. If you delete a bunch of system files, haaaaa, your reloading again. My blood sugar is low, I gotta shut up now. SignatureMoParMaN---Remove Clothes To Reply! --SCUD Coordinates 32.61204 North: 96.92993 West-- > I only run stuff that works together. Microsoft and Linux and Norton do > this. Expand on this Linux thing. How does it work with Microsoft and Norton? >> I only run stuff that works together. Microsoft and Linux and Norton do >> this. > > Expand on this Linux thing. How does it work with Microsoft and Norton? Dual Boot Babee... Dual Boot. SignatureMoParMaN---Remove Clothes To Reply! --SCUD Coordinates 32.61204 North: 96.92993 West-- > >> I only run stuff that works together. Microsoft and Linux and Norton do > >> this. > > > > Expand on this Linux thing. How does it work with Microsoft and Norton? > > Dual Boot Babee... Dual Boot. That still doesn't have them working together. SignatureIf at first you don't succeed, you're not cut out for skydiving >> >> I only run stuff that works together. Microsoft and Linux and Norton >> >> do [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > That still doesn't have them working together. What is your question? SignatureMoParMaN---Remove Clothes To Reply! --SCUD Coordinates 32.61204 North: 96.92993 West-- >>> >> I only run stuff that works together. Microsoft and Linux and Norton >>> >> do [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >> > What is your question? http://enterprisesecurity.symantec.com/content/displaypdf.cfm?pdfid=260&EID=0 Maybe this will help for Linux/AIX/AUX/Solaris Users. SignatureMoParMaN---Remove Clothes To Reply! --SCUD Coordinates 32.61204 North: 96.92993 West-- |
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