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Car Forum / Dodge / Dodge Trucks / March 2005

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1999 RAM 4x4 rear noise

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Joe - 06 Mar 2005 16:45 GMT
She's got 108k on her. The noise starts low pitch with acceleration she gets
much higher. I put her on stands to see where it is coming from. It is the
rear end for sure, but which ever side i'm on, it sounds like the other. I
got in the center and still had a hard time telling. Being this is my only
vehicle, I was just going to swap out the rear end. Is there any other tests
I may do that would point in a better direction. Any places in particular to
get a rear other than a junk yard. How do I know what my factory rear end
is?
.boB - 07 Mar 2005 02:06 GMT
> She's got 108k on her. The noise starts low pitch with acceleration she gets
> much higher. I put her on stands to see where it is coming from. It is the
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> get a rear other than a junk yard. How do I know what my factory rear end
> is?

   Why don't you just have yours rebuilt?  It only
takes 2-3  hours for a good shop to do it.  A lot less
time than swapping the entire rear, and you get all new
parts.

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joe - 09 Mar 2005 01:43 GMT
I don't have the money. They wanted 800 to 1000 to do it.
> > She's got 108k on her. The noise starts low pitch with acceleration she gets
> > much higher. I put her on stands to see where it is coming from. It is the
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> time than swapping the entire rear, and you get all new
> parts.
nevermore2005@myway.com - 08 Mar 2005 07:53 GMT
Did you check your diff. oil level? That might be a good place to
start. After that, break out the service manual. But swapping the rear
end might not solve the problem, if it's *not* the problem.
joe - 09 Mar 2005 01:42 GMT
That I did. I put my finger in it and it was just a little shy. I filled it
up and probably a 1/4 of a quart the fluid started to come out. It was/is
full of shiney metal stuff. I then flooded it with the rest. There is metal
in there for sure. I was told it's the bearings, the u-joints, the pinion or
whatever the other are. My prob is this is the only vehicle I got. So, if
its the bearings I can do it. If it's not, I don't think I can in a weekend.
I can't afford to do exploritory surgery. I am dearly affraid what ever it
is will not last two weekends. I turned the wheels and I hear it when I had
it on jack stands. I just cant tell where the dam noise is. I was quoted
from two places 900 to 1000 to rebuild. I can get a used for 400 locally. Im
using it up (I feel like its my gas tank that's now on the 1/8 ding ding)and
being an only vehicle and single parent, im scared to wait much longer or
lose a weekend. Any ideas a cheaper route to get one? I found a cool web
page that has phone support if you buy the parts from them to rebuild. I
just don't think I have the time. Except to shot gun the shabang. I go to
work and take care of my three year old after so I cant even open the
pumpkin during the week to check it out.
> Did you check your diff. oil level? That might be a good place to
> start. After that, break out the service manual. But swapping the rear
> end might not solve the problem, if it's *not* the problem.
nevermore2005@myway.com - 09 Mar 2005 02:14 GMT
> That I did. I put my finger in it and it was just a little shy. I filled it
> up and probably a 1/4 of a quart the fluid started to come out. It was/is
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> work and take care of my three year old after so I cant even open the
> pumpkin during the week to check it out.

Pull the cover off the diff and have a close look. If you have metal in
there, like you said, you've got troubles. I had a pinion gear go bad
in a Ford 3/4 ton and I had "chunks" of metal in the diff housing. 1/2
of the pinion gear was shot. But it was just a work vehicle and I
cleaned out the metal and reinstalled it and it lasted another six
months, with no further troubles, before I got rid of the truck.

Go with the used one for now, for cost sake. But ask for a guarantee on
it. The wreckers should be able to find you a good used one for about
the price you mentioned, or even cheaper. Inspect it closely before you
take it home. Any signs of visual wear, stay away from it. But I think
you should be OK, based on my own past experience in dealing with most
auto wreckers in my area, at least.

You may want to take it in to your dealer and have them do the
installation. What the book time on that job, 2.5 hours tops? Plus
gaskets, etc...

BTW, you may get lucky too when/if you do your inspection. On the Ford
I mentioned, the crown gear survived with no damage. If that's the case
with yours too, then you might just be able to get away with replacing
the pinion gear and be done with. All that happened with mine is for
some reason the nut on the input shaft came loose and the seal was also
shot. That caused the rear end to "howl" and caused premature failure
of the pinion gear. I put a "speedy sleeve" on the input shaft and a
new seal and away I went.

Either way, I think your going to be fine. If you do the tear down and
replacement, get a service manual for sure. A "Haynes" manual is about
$20.00. No biggy.

Best of luck! :-)

>> Did you check your diff. oil level? That might be a good place to
>> start. After that, break out the service manual. But swapping the rear
>> end might not solve the problem, if it's *not* the problem.
Murf FLSTC - 13 Mar 2005 19:17 GMT
I had a pinion bearing go out on my 99.  $800 to repair.

Steve

> She's got 108k on her. The noise starts low pitch with acceleration she
> gets
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> get a rear other than a junk yard. How do I know what my factory rear end
> is?
 
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