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Slick Willy - 24 Mar 2005 16:10 GMT
Well, I finally was able to check out the voltage on my battery ...  Sorry
for not having exact numbers, it's not a digital multimeter.

Engine off, no accessories - ~12.5
Engine running - ~13

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TBone - 24 Mar 2005 18:15 GMT
13 seems a bit low, especially for a DC product.  What RPM was the engine
running at when you tested it?

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> Well, I finally was able to check out the voltage on my battery ...  Sorry
> for not having exact numbers, it's not a digital multimeter.
>
> Engine off, no accessories - ~12.5
> Engine running - ~13
Slick Willy - 24 Mar 2005 20:14 GMT
"TBone" <t-bonenospam@nc.rr.com> wrote in news:iBC0e.47003$nZ.1958456
@twister.southeast.rr.com:

> 13 seems a bit low, especially for a DC product.  What RPM was the engine
> running at when you tested it?

Truck was just started after sitting for an hour or 2 in 20 degree
weathers, so in effect, it was a cold engine... so it was around 900 RPM's
... I ran the test for 2 straight minutes, and doing so, the RPM's drop to
around 750 which is normal *for me*.  Multimeter dropped a few times to 2-
3, but bounced right back up in that 2 minutes.

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Lurker - 25 Mar 2005 01:53 GMT
Running at 900 to 1000 RPM the alternator/regulator should put out 14.2 to
14.5 volts.
I would check your meter with known good vehicle charging it's battery (you
can mark the face of the meter with a grease pencil if you want).  Or check
against known good battery not charging (about 12.5 volts).

If your output is still low I would check that the alternator belt is
properly taut and not glazed (this would cause slipping - you did mention
that the meter dropped 2 to 3 volts).

If that is OK I would then check the regulator - it's probably integral to
the alternator.  Someone more knowledgeable about specifics should answer
that procedure.

> "TBone" <t-bonenospam@nc.rr.com> wrote in news:iBC0e.47003$nZ.1958456
> @twister.southeast.rr.com:
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> around 750 which is normal *for me*.  Multimeter dropped a few times to 2-
> 3, but bounced right back up in that 2 minutes.
Fred Shaffer - 25 Mar 2005 03:56 GMT
> Running at 900 to 1000 RPM the alternator/regulator should put out 14.2 to
> 14.5 volts.
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>>around 750 which is normal *for me*.  Multimeter dropped a few times to 2-
>>3, but bounced right back up in that 2 minutes.

Regulator function provided by engine controller (PCM ?).  Twelve volts
to alternator field from shutdown relay.  Field switched to ground by
voltage regulator within PCM.
Slick Willy - 25 Mar 2005 15:56 GMT
> Running at 900 to 1000 RPM the alternator/regulator should put out
> 14.2 to 14.5 volts.
> I would check your meter with known good vehicle charging it's battery
> (you can mark the face of the meter with a grease pencil if you want).
>  Or check against known good battery not charging (about 12.5 volts).

Did that on my friends car.  It had a proper reading there, so I don't
think it's the multimeter showing incorrectly.

> If your output is still low I would check that the alternator belt is
> properly taut and not glazed (this would cause slipping - you did
> mention that the meter dropped 2 to 3 volts).

I just changed my belt about 3 months ago as I had this very problem.  No
problems to report on that repair.  It's still possible, but unlikely.

>  If that is OK I would then check the regulator - it's probably
>  integral to
> the alternator.  Someone more knowledgeable about specifics should
> answer that procedure.

Yuk.  That this point, it over my head.

Thanks for the help.  I appreciate it.

>> "TBone" <t-bonenospam@nc.rr.com> wrote in news:iBC0e.47003$nZ.1958456
>> @twister.southeast.rr.com:
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>> dropped a few times to 2- 3, but bounced right back up in that 2
>> minutes.

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Kurt - 25 Mar 2005 09:16 GMT
Seems a tad on the low side.

Now you have me thinking that if you had some sort of high current draw on
your battery & your charging system is not charging the battery correctly, the
high amp draw on the battery would deplete the electrolyte in the battery
also.

But!  If that were to be the case, at some point you wouldn't have enough of a
charge left in the battery to start your vehicle.  So!  I think that shoots
that down.

Look forward to bringing it in for service, (can you qualify for a home equity
loan?)  you may need it to facilitate total repair of this problem.  ;-)

>Well, I finally was able to check out the voltage on my battery ...  Sorry
>for not having exact numbers, it's not a digital multimeter.
>
>Engine off, no accessories - ~12.5
>Engine running - ~13

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Slick Willy - 25 Mar 2005 16:00 GMT
> Seems a tad on the low side.
>
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> home equity loan?)  you may need it to facilitate total repair of this
> problem.  ;-)

Dammit.  That's my worst fear.  I hate my dealer.  I think I only get 2
of the "5 star service award" when I go there.  <g>.

Probably time to find a new place to take my truk.

Anyway, thanks to all for assisting in my issue.  You're replies are much
appreciated.

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partsmore - 29 Mar 2005 03:28 GMT
1) check and CLEAN both ends of the battery cables
2) check the voltage at the alternator battery terminal (truck running)
3) check the voltage at the battery (running)
4) IF  you ahve a battery tester, load test the battery - free at most
parts stores - IN the vehicle - unhooked.
5) Report these figures back to board, they can help THEN.....

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