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Car Forum / Dodge / Dodge Trucks / April 2005

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Bio-diesel update ... ?

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craig@metronet.com - 08 Apr 2005 19:41 GMT
Hi all,

The last post regarding bio-diesel was back in early February.  Just
wondering if anyone has read/heard/experienced anything about this?

I'm in Dallas and there is a bio-diesel producer here that has two
stations, one in Addison and one in Denton (I think).  Both of which
pump B100 (i.e. 100%, not blended).  And in a small area south of
Dallas (Carls Corner), Willy Nelson supposedly has a filling station
that pumps B20 (20% bio, 80% petroleum).

I read that Cummins endorses up to 5% blend.  The company that has the
two stations here in Dallas pull around a portable tank (filled with
bio-diesel) with a Ram 3500 that runs B100 with no problem.

Craig C.
Alan Petrillo - 09 Apr 2005 05:34 GMT
> Hi all,
>
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> two stations here in Dallas pull around a portable tank (filled with
> bio-diesel) with a Ram 3500 that runs B100 with no problem.

I suspect that the reason Cummins endorses a 5% blend is that Bosch, who
makes the injection systems used on Cummins engines last time I looked,
endorses a 5% blend.

When it comes to fuel I have found Bosch to be EXTREMELY conservative
when it comes to alternative fuels.  When I talked to a Bosch engineer
about possible modifications required for running vegetable oil I was
told I should go look up "envirocrackpots.com".  This is Bosch's
corporate attitude toward alternative fuels.  Basically, it's a case of
"We don't care, we don't have to, we're the largest manufacturer of
diesel injection equipment in the world, we have you by the
short-and-curlies, and we know it."  I have gotten this feeling from
Bosch every time I've dealt with them about anything.

I've been running B100 in my two old trucks with no problems, and the
only thing I've had to do was replace old rubber fuel lines with new
synthetic ones.  And this is on mid 1980's Isuzu engines with V type
rotary pumps.

My feeling on it is that you should be able to run B100 with no
problems, and you'll probably find that your trucks run better on it.
Mine do.

AP
MoParMaN - 09 Apr 2005 12:10 GMT
>> Hi all,
>>
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>
> AP

Interesting, I would be interested in running Bio fuel too, but, it's not a
recommended fuel in my 2005 3500. I think I'll stick with the fossil fuel
main;y because I don't want to void my warranty.

It would be cool driving down the road, stomping on the accelerator, and
watching all the nimrods exit at the nearest McD's cause you just filled the
air with french fry oil....

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craig@metronet.com - 09 Apr 2005 15:08 GMT
> Interesting, I would be interested in running Bio fuel too, but, it's not a
> recommended fuel in my 2005 3500. I think I'll stick with the fossil fuel
> main;y because I don't want to void my warranty.

Supposedly, it only voids the warranty on the fuel system.  However,
what I have read has been "fuzzy".  Truth is, I can't find a single
instance of the *newer* Dodge trucks having any problems.  Quite the
opposite, actually.  The 50 or so cases that I know of that use bio
(either B5, B20 or B100) have all had outstanding success.

Have you thought of trying a blend?  B5 or B20 to start until you feel
comfortable with B100?

That's what I plan to do.  However, the only place that I know of that
pumps B20 is south of Dallas, which isn't convenient.  It would take
1/4 of a tank to get there.

Are you in Dallas?  Perhaps I am confusing you with someone else, but I
thought I had read in some of your posts that you are.  If so and you
are on the north side of the metroplex, the only option is to mix it
yourself.  Then you can mix whatever % you like.  B5 if you don't want
any warranty issues ...

http://www.dfwbiodiesel.com

I'm sure their are other places, as well.

> It would be cool driving down the road, stomping on the accelerator, and
> watching all the nimrods exit at the nearest McD's cause you just filled the
> air with french fry oil....

It's a conspiracy.  The oil companies know they are losing their grip
on the need for petroleum, so they have bought up stock in junk food
joints ...

;)
Craig C.
MoParMaN - 09 Apr 2005 21:31 GMT
>> Interesting, I would be interested in running Bio fuel too, but, it's
> not a
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> http://www.dfwbiodiesel.com

I live in Cedar Hill, but my office is in the Telcom Corridor.

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