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Car Forum / Dodge / Dodge Trucks / May 2005

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1990 Dakota dogs out, nearly dies - HELP!!!

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Newsreader - 27 Apr 2005 17:19 GMT
We own a 1990 DODGE TRUCK DAKOTA 4WD
6 Cylinders 239 X 3.9L FI

Several years ago, it started running rough and dogging out on acceleration.
It was like it was only firing a few cylinders.  At first it only happened
in the winter or when it was cold and rainy.  During the summer, the truck
ran totally fine.  Come cold weather -- we didn't run because it ran so bad.

Then last fall, it started running rough, and dogging out on acceleration
all the time.  It got to the point, we couldn't drive it because we couldn't
safely depend on the accelerator to go when we pushed it -- through lights
and stop signs.  The vehicle herked and jerked too much for a sane ride.

The power on the vehicle starts to drain when this happens.  The lights dim,
and it feels like the engine is going to die though it rarely does.

This happens to us at low or high speed.  Speed doesn't matter.

It starts up like a champ -- every time. There are no issues with startup.

We're going nuts.  We've had it hooked up to diagnostics. It doesn't find
anything.

We've replaced the O2 sensor, the ingition coil, spark plugs and wires --
and insulated them with extra corregated pipe, we got a new cat coverter and
muffler system as well -- and it is still happening.

My poor husband is going nuts!!  Tonight he is thinking of replacing the EGR
value, and potentially buying new fuel injectors for the truck!!!

We don't believe it is a vacuum leak because our idle while it does get
high -- it goes back down -- which they say won't happen with a vacuum leak.

Last, we realize it could be a leak in the intake manifold, and it could be
the coolant sensor.

ANY HELP WOULD BE APPRECIATED.  We need this truck desparately.  We have
upholstered furniture waiting to be picked up. The guy is getting mad at
us!!!!

I'd like to be able to help my husband.
MANY THANKS!!!!
Newsreader - 27 Apr 2005 17:33 GMT
Oh -- after we replaced the O2 sensor, the muffler and cat converter -- the
beast ran great for two weeks without a hitch -- approximately 100 miles --
then it started up again as bad as ever!!

That's when we replaced the ignition coil, replaced the 02 sensor again and
it didn't fix it.
Tom108@webtv.net - 27 Apr 2005 18:49 GMT
Read the codes in the computer, turn the ignition keyswitch on and off
three times(without
starting the engine) and count the number of times the (check engine
light) in the dash flashes.  These are your diagnostic codes, they
should help you find the problem.  You can find the code chart on line
or in any repair book for chrysler products.  Good Luck.
Newsreader - 28 Apr 2005 00:37 GMT
I guess our model year didn't have the diagnostic code feature.  The Dodge
book we bought clearly states it.

Damn!
Thanks anyway though.
Ed M - 28 Apr 2005 03:12 GMT
What book might that be?

>I guess our model year didn't have the diagnostic code feature.  The Dodge
> book we bought clearly states it.
>
> Damn!
> Thanks anyway though.
Newsreader - 28 Apr 2005 03:18 GMT
Haynes Repair Manual
Dodge Dakota Pick-ups 1987-1996
TBone - 28 Apr 2005 07:14 GMT
That is because they are not ODBII compliant but if the check engine light
is on, they can be read with an older style reader.

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> Haynes Repair Manual
> Dodge Dakota Pick-ups 1987-1996
Dale Yonz - 28 Apr 2005 09:04 GMT
> Haynes Repair Manual
> Dodge Dakota Pick-ups 1987-1996

so, you got one for sale?
Newsreader - 28 Apr 2005 16:58 GMT
Damn near thinking about it, I tell you!!!

We've just put in nearly $1000 into this old beast.
Old_Timer - 27 Apr 2005 22:24 GMT
>We own a 1990 DODGE TRUCK DAKOTA 4WD
>6 Cylinders 239 X 3.9L FI
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>I'd like to be able to help my husband.
>MANY THANKS!!!!

Have you checked the inside of the disributor cap for carbon tracks?

Old_Timer
Newsreader - 27 Apr 2005 22:39 GMT
No...if we found them, what would that mean?
Steve@carolinabreezehvac.com - 30 Apr 2005 15:34 GMT
> No...if we found them, what would that mean?

It would mean to replace the cap...
scott and barb - 06 May 2005 12:58 GMT
Check distributor cam position sensor, change this part out with a donor
part either new or used.Read technical bulleton on how to index the
distributor.(Google Alpar)

> >We own a 1990 DODGE TRUCK DAKOTA 4WD
> >6 Cylinders 239 X 3.9L FI
[quoted text clipped - 42 lines]
>
> Old_Timer
Newsreader - 28 Apr 2005 02:20 GMT
We replaced the EGR value -- and one injector.

IT SEEMS TO BE RUNNING WORSE THAN EVER!!
Bigtexasshadetree - 28 Apr 2005 15:23 GMT
Change you fuel filters and might want to think about the fuel pump
Steve@carolinabreezehvac.com - 28 Apr 2005 16:28 GMT
> We replaced the EGR value -- and one injector.
>
> IT SEEMS TO BE RUNNING WORSE THAN EVER!!

Sounds like Im being an a.s...but...

Stop throwing parts at it....and at this point, it sounds like you could
have been fixed, and for less, by simply taking it to a dealer, and allowing
them to make the repairs..plus, you have their warranty behind the repairs.
Newsreader - 28 Apr 2005 17:00 GMT
We do think it might be the fuel pump.  We changed the filter.  Most of the
parts we replaced were due.  The truck has 130,000 miles on it.

Today we've scheduled a diagnostic at the dealer.

Watch, they'll tell us it was the fuel pump!  Would make sense.

Thanks...  I'll keep you posted.
 
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