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Nathan W. Collier - 07 Jun 2005 19:46 GMT
my 7x18 enclosed trailer came in and i was really surprised to see that
while dodge rates my '01.5 2500 cummins to pull nearly 13,000 pounds they
put a hitch on it rated for only 5000 pounds.  this makes no sense to
me....is this a liability thing or is it _really_ only capable of pulling
5000 pounds on a standard (non-distributing) hitch?

also, please see http://utilityoffroad.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=4364 and
take a look at the adjustable hitch i bought.  i was a bit reluctant because
its made of aluminum but i was assured by the shop owner that although he
sold more expensive hitches, that this was the strongest one he carried.
anybody have any experience with these?

my sticker from my '04.5 cummins says class IV hitch so im not concerned
about that one.  i just dont know why they would put such a light receiver
on the '01.5.
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.boB - 07 Jun 2005 22:42 GMT
> my 7x18 enclosed trailer came in and i was really surprised to see that
> while dodge rates my '01.5 2500 cummins to pull nearly 13,000 pounds they
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> about that one.  i just dont know why they would put such a light receiver
> on the '01.5.

   The receiver hitch on mine is rated at 5,000#, but also 10,000# with a weight
distributing hitch.  If you read the fine print in your owners manual, you may find
the same thing.

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azwiley1 - 08 Jun 2005 00:17 GMT
Nate can't read!  LOL

>> my 7x18 enclosed trailer came in and i was really surprised to see that
>> while dodge rates my '01.5 2500 cummins to pull nearly 13,000 pounds they
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> weight distributing hitch.  If you read the fine print in your owners
> manual, you may find the same thing.
Nathan W. Collier - 08 Jun 2005 07:58 GMT
>    The receiver hitch on mine is rated at 5,000#, but also 10,000# with a
> weight distributing hitch.  If you read the fine print in your owners
> manual, you may find the same thing.

hi bob,
now isnt that what i said in my original post?  :-)

any idea if its really only capable of 5,000 pounds on a standard hitch like
in the picture from the link in my original thread?

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.boB - 09 Jun 2005 03:51 GMT
>>   The receiver hitch on mine is rated at 5,000#, but also 10,000# with a
>>weight distributing hitch.  If you read the fine print in your owners
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> any idea if its really only capable of 5,000 pounds on a standard hitch like
> in the picture from the link in my original thread?

    I didn't see the part about the weight distributing hitch.  I don't knnow if
yours is the same as mine, but I suspect it is.

    Generally speaking, your truck is capable of towing 13K#, but only when
"properly equipped".  I've never seen a simple recieiver hitch rated that high.  Of
course, I've never needed to tow more than 10K#, either.   I believe you need a 5th
wheel hitch to pull max load.

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Nathan W. Collier - 09 Jun 2005 04:05 GMT
>     Generally speaking, your truck is capable of towing 13K#, but only
> when "properly equipped".  I've never seen a simple recieiver hitch rated
> that high.  Of course, I've never needed to tow more than 10K#, either.
> I believe you need a 5th wheel hitch to pull max load.

10,000 would be the maximum since that is my trailer gvwr.  i know i can tow
this fine with my '04.5 cummins since it has a class IV hitch.  again, i
just dont see why they would put such a light receiver on a truck rated for
much more.

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Bryan - 08 Jun 2005 07:05 GMT
The rating on the hitch is tongue weight.  Example: loaded w/ my racecar, my
car trailer weighs about 4500# but the tongue weight is only about 700#.
Bryan

> my 7x18 enclosed trailer came in and i was really surprised to see that
> while dodge rates my '01.5 2500 cummins to pull nearly 13,000 pounds they
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> about that one.  i just dont know why they would put such a light receiver
> on the '01.5.
Nathan W. Collier - 08 Jun 2005 07:57 GMT
> The rating on the hitch is tongue weight.

i understand how it all works.  what i dont understand is why they would put
such a weak hitch on a truck rated to more than 2 times that much.

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mac davis - 08 Jun 2005 17:20 GMT
>my 7x18 enclosed trailer came in and i was really surprised to see that
>while dodge rates my '01.5 2500 cummins to pull nearly 13,000 pounds they
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>about that one.  i just dont know why they would put such a light receiver
>on the '01.5.

Nate.. "assuming" that the 5,000 pounds is tongue weight, (that sounds like a
LOT of tongue weight), you're very safe... considering that average tongue
weight is10 to 15% of the trailer weight...

Like the bumper of my old Mazda pickup said "do not exceed 200 pounds towing
weight".. they sure didn't mean total trailer weight.. lol

mac

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Nathan W. Collier - 08 Jun 2005 19:11 GMT
> Nate.. "assuming" that the 5,000 pounds is tongue weight, (that sounds
> like a
> LOT of tongue weight), you're very safe

its not.  500/5000 is the rating on a standard hitch.

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Tom Lawrence - 08 Jun 2005 21:41 GMT
> Nate.. "assuming" that the 5,000 pounds is tongue weight,

Heh...  5K of tongue weight would leave you staring at the sky while the
truck wheelied down the road, digging a trench in the road from the hitch.
It would certainly be impressive  :)
Trey - 09 Jun 2005 19:48 GMT
>> Nate.. "assuming" that the 5,000 pounds is tongue weight,
>
> Heh...  5K of tongue weight would leave you staring at the sky while the
> truck wheelied down the road, digging a trench in the road from the hitch.
> It would certainly be impressive  :)

with the toung weight being 10% of the load... and the toung weight being
5,000 pounds.. that would mean its a 50,000 pound load?? That would be 25
tons right?
Lorne - 11 Jun 2005 18:34 GMT
Now would this be a  "REDNECK"  thing to do???

>>> Nate.. "assuming" that the 5,000 pounds is tongue weight,
>>
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> 5,000 pounds.. that would mean its a 50,000 pound load?? That would be 25
> tons right?
 
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