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Car Forum / Dodge / Dodge Trucks / June 2005

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M_Lukachie - 21 Jun 2005 06:32 GMT
I just bought a used 94 Dakota V-8 4x4 with low milage.  The gas guage is
moving all over the place.  I mean it jumps from empty to full no matter
how much fuel is in the tank.  How can I fix this problem.  Is this
something that I can do myself or do I have to take it in to get this
fixed.  Can anyone tell me what kind of gas milage I can expect since I do
not have an accurate gass level reading?
John - 21 Jun 2005 12:07 GMT
I have a 94 Dakota v6 3.9 that is developing the same prob.The fuel pump
is a modual on mine (prob same on yours)so the pump,strainer,and gauge
sending unit are all in one unit.Part from dodge dealer is $450 +$200
labor that was an estimate from my local mech.I am ging to do it my
self.I looked up after market prices $175 at NAPA parts store am going
to call around today to others (dont want to buy a junk unit) .Do a
google search for dodge truck by amsol they  have a great site with lots
of info  
TBone - 21 Jun 2005 14:42 GMT
Are you sure that the sending unit is not sold separately?

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> I have a 94 Dakota v6 3.9 that is developing the same prob.The fuel pump
> is a modual on mine (prob same on yours)so the pump,strainer,and gauge
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> google search for dodge truck by amsol they  have a great site with lots
> of info
SnoMan - 21 Jun 2005 19:35 GMT
>Are you sure that the sending unit is not sold separately?

Yes I am thinking 50 to 75 bucks at a parts store for a sending unit
but some new trucks have fuel pumps and sending unit as one unit.
beekeep - 22 Jun 2005 00:37 GMT
>Are you sure that the sending unit is not sold separately?

Even if they did you would be better off changing the fuel pump while
you have it all apart.  They don't last forever.

beekeep
TBone - 22 Jun 2005 01:54 GMT
> >Are you sure that the sending unit is not sold separately?
> >
> Even if they did you would be better off changing the fuel pump while
> you have it all apart.  They don't last forever.

While very true, it should depend on how many miles and how old the vehicle
is.  My 89 Nissan is still running on its original pump and so is my 97 Ram.

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beekeep - 22 Jun 2005 12:48 GMT
>> >Are you sure that the sending unit is not sold separately?
>> >
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>While very true, it should depend on how many miles and how old the vehicle
>is.  My 89 Nissan is still running on its original pump and so is my 97 Ram.

The Nissan is a pump only replacement.  Did the wifes mini van not
because it failed but because it was making a buzzing sound.  My dodge
van has had one replacement.  I had an old chrysler k car that the
fuel pump failed in as well.  The after market pumps seem to last
forever.

beekeep


TBone - 23 Jun 2005 01:32 GMT
> >> >Are you sure that the sending unit is not sold separately?
> >> >
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> beekeep

The Nissans pump is easy to get too, you don't even have to jack up the car.
The Dodge is a bit more of a PITA.  What I should get is a fuel pressure
gauge kit since now all of my cars have FI and check them out every now and
then.  While there is still the chance of a burn out getting me stuck, I
should be able to detect a failing pump and replace it before it gives up
completely.  These damn pumps are just too expensive to replace as a general
maintenance item.

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SnoMan - 22 Jun 2005 03:35 GMT
>On Tue, 21 Jun 2005 13:42:02 GMT, "TBone"
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>beekeep

I have one 16 plus years old and still going strong and with a 172K on
it too.
John - 22 Jun 2005 12:06 GMT
If yours is 16 years old its not in the tank as is the case with fuel
injection .A lot of info on the subject is at dakota.com a site
sponsered by Amsol Co.NAPA parts store sells a complete module by Carter
for my 9 3.9 V6 for $175 I havent dropped the tank yet (hate the thought
of doing it) but $500 saved is going to make me do it LOL
          JW
SnoMan - 23 Jun 2005 05:35 GMT
>If yours is 16 years old its not in the tank as is the case with fuel
>injection .A lot of info on the subject is at dakota.com a site
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>of doing it) but 0 saved is going to make me do it LOL
>           JW

Actually my GM 89 suburbans fuel pump is in the tank and you can here
it too. It still sounds about the same too 16 years later. I do have a
theory on pump life though in tank mounted pumps. The pump is cooled
and lubed by the fuel in the tank and if you run you tank low a lot it
stand to reason that pump life could be shortened. My tank never
really gets much below 1/2 unless I am on a trip and then I run it
pretty low before I refill it. Beside these days you do not like
filling up a 40 gallon tank when it is empty either though it is great
on cross country trips.
 
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