I just bought a 2005 POWER WAGON (2500). I have only driven it 200 KM on the
highway now since I got it a few days ago and the computer says I am getting
11.8 MPG. This sounds REALLY BAD. My window sticker did not show an EPA
rating and when I called the dealer they just said that it will get the same
as the 1500 with Hemi with to me sounds like a quit bullshit answer.
Anybody else out there driving a 2500 Ram with Hemi that can tell me what
kind of City/Hwy gas mileage I can expect? I imagine that the gas mileage
will increase after break in period of the truck right?
I am also planning on towing a 5500 lb (dry) Travel Trailer across country
with it and was hoping for 10 MPG with that but if it is 11.8 MPG with no
load I am concerned !
TBone - 22 Jun 2005 06:49 GMT
How hard are you driving it?

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> I just bought a 2005 POWER WAGON (2500). I have only driven it 200 KM on the
> highway now since I got it a few days ago and the computer says I am getting
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> with it and was hoping for 10 MPG with that but if it is 11.8 MPG with no
> load I am concerned !
NewRVguy - 22 Jun 2005 19:36 GMT
nice and easy, not out to race with it
> How hard are you driving it?
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> > with it and was hoping for 10 MPG with that but if it is 11.8 MPG with no
> > load I am concerned !
NerdRevenge - 22 Jun 2005 06:51 GMT
>I just bought a 2005 POWER WAGON (2500). I have only driven it 200 KM on
>the
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> with it and was hoping for 10 MPG with that but if it is 11.8 MPG with no
> load I am concerned !
That sounds correct. Hemi is a gas guzzling performance engine,
I knew a guy that bouhght one then a few days later took it back in exhange
for a diesel
NewRVguy - 22 Jun 2005 12:53 GMT
11.8 MPG>
That sounds correct. Hemi is a gas guzzling performance engine
> I knew a guy that bouhght one then a few days later took it back in exhange
> for a diesel
I thought of doing that but I always thought that once you bought a new
truck it was YOURS. With it being "driven off the lot" and registered with
my plate on it wouldn't it have to be sold back to them for like a $5000
loss ?
miles - 22 Jun 2005 14:19 GMT
> 11.8 MPG>
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> my plate on it wouldn't it have to be sold back to them for like a $5000
> loss ?
Yep! Some people don't care. You'll lose a bit less if you sell it on
your own. I have a Hemi Durango 4x4 with 3.55 gears. When it was new I
only got about 12mpg highway at 75mph. I get about 17mpg now with 16K
on it. Around town I get 14.5mpg. Towing I get about 10mpg at 65mph
pulling a 5000lb trailer.
NewRVguy - 22 Jun 2005 19:38 GMT
I talked with a guy today with a 2500/Hemi and he recommended I wait it out
because he got 12 HWY when new but now with 25K on it he is getting 17 HWY
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> on it. Around town I get 14.5mpg. Towing I get about 10mpg at 65mph
> pulling a 5000lb trailer.
Badger - 23 Jun 2005 00:01 GMT
> I talked with a guy today with a 2500/Hemi and he recommended I wait it out
> because he got 12 HWY when new but now with 25K on it he is getting 17 HWY
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>>on it. Around town I get 14.5mpg. Towing I get about 10mpg at 65mph
>>pulling a 5000lb trailer.
What is ironic, is I have a 93 D250 Cummins 5sp, 3:55 axle and 24 MPG
empty, 16 pulling an 8800 pound trailer hard!
Maybe ironic is the wrong term, but I wouldn't trade mine for a new one
that's for sure.
Clay
SnoMan - 23 Jun 2005 02:35 GMT
>What is ironic, is I have a 93 D250 Cummins 5sp, 3:55 axle and 24 MPG
>empty, 16 pulling an 8800 pound trailer hard!
>Maybe ironic is the wrong term, but I wouldn’t trade mine for a
>new one
>that’s for sure.
>Clay
In my opinion those early Cummins Dodge were some of the most
economical and reliable models ever built. When I lived in Montana in
the mid 90’s those old models (though pretty new then) were very
popular with the hunters and fishermman that would travel long
distances on weekends with the camper AND boat in tow while still
getting 14 to 15 MPG doing it.
SnoMan - 22 Jun 2005 16:36 GMT
>11.8 MPG>
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If it did not have enough miles on it and you fussed about it they
might. Tell them they misrepresented the MPG to you. A friend recently
bought a Dmax crew cab truck and was looking at Dodge Cummins trucks
but the price (chevy was 2 grand cheaper from rebates) and the lack of
disengaging front axle moved him to a chevy. Also the reason I brought
it up, He was having some issues with getting few dealer installed
option installed on it and he finailly got it worked out okay for all
parties involved but just before they did the dealer offered to give
him his money back on truck even though it had 2000 miles on it
because they wanted him happy and it was a reputable dealer. You could
try talking to them and see what they say but you will never be happy
with that hemi towing a big trailer power of MPG and I would be ready
for 8 to 9 MPG towing a big trailer at best. ALso for what it is worth
my friend tried out a 6.0 gas powered crew cab for several days and he
got around 15 mpg with it on the road and he is not a slow driver and
the power was good too. With the Dmax he has now he is getting 18.5
mpg with same driving and in both cases the trip MPG monitor was clos
to actuall MPG when it was filled up. If max MPG is your goal in a
Dodge towing go for a Cummins with a 6 speed and skip the automatic.
Christopher Thompson - 22 Jun 2005 14:08 GMT
11.8 mpg on a 3/4 ton....sounds about right to me but then again i may just
be used to feeding that v10 and my heavy foot!
> I just bought a 2005 POWER WAGON (2500). I have only driven it 200 KM on the
> highway now since I got it a few days ago and the computer says I am getting
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> with it and was hoping for 10 MPG with that but if it is 11.8 MPG with no
> load I am concerned !
Woody - 22 Jun 2005 14:24 GMT
>I just bought a 2005 POWER WAGON (2500). I have only driven it 200 KM on the
>highway now since I got it a few days ago and the computer says I am getting
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>with it and was hoping for 10 MPG with that but if it is 11.8 MPG with no
>load I am concerned !
Here is a repeat of my post on this subject a while ago.
I have a 2004 2500 4x4 reg cab hemi with 5sp standard. In 15K miles
the best ever tank was 14.5 mpg highway with no trailer or load.
Overall average is about 13.5. Towing a 6000 lb trailer I get about 10
mpg and our friends with a Cummins diesel and a heavier trailer leave
us in the dust going up hill while using less fuel.
Woody; 95FXDS
SnoMan - 22 Jun 2005 16:35 GMT
>I just bought a 2005 POWER WAGON (2500). I have only driven it 200 KM
>on the
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>no
>load I am concerned !
I have never talked to anyone with a Hemi in a big truck that did not
get poor MPG and there is a couple of reasons for that. One is the
engines power band, its rating looks impressive on paper and in ads
but a engine that peaks it torque at over 4000 RPM and HP above 5000
RPM is not going to play well in a heavy RV because relative to its
implied HP rating, the avalible torque at lower RPMs and engine
efficency is not great. (A GM 6.0 for example while having a lower HP
rating has a lower RPM HP and torque peak with better low RPM
efficency and does a lot better in a heavy RV) The second problem is
that Dodge in their infinate wisdom left out the ability and
possibility of have a front axle disconnect or lockout hubs to cut
front axle power loss when it 2WD. The front axle and diff is always
turning and that will cost you at least 1 MPG or so on the average and
a bit more when it is colder or speeds are very high. I am sorry to
say there is not magic fix here. I will never understand why Chrysler
did not spend another 100 bucks on 35K truck to enable and include the
installation of lockout hubs to disengage axle in 2wd. It can only be
for saving money and simpling 4wd operation but it is not MPG freindly
on highway. Back 30 years ago when I first started driving 4x4’s you
could tell when the hubs were not disengaged in general performace at
speed and MPG too. If you plan to travel a lot, the Dodge 4x4 is not a
good choice MPG wise with hemi and you would do better with a Ford or
Chevy. Even the old V10 would do about the same MPG wise as the new
Hemi but it would tow like crazy too and badly embrass the higher
rated Hemi in towing performance. It is sad that you have two choices
in your truck, a 5.7 or a Cummins and nothing in the middle.
Gene - 22 Jun 2005 17:03 GMT
you're getting 'average' expect much less pulling.
Roy - 22 Jun 2005 17:50 GMT
>I just bought a 2005 POWER WAGON (2500). I have only driven it 200 KM on
>the
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> with it and was hoping for 10 MPG with that but if it is 11.8 MPG with no
> load I am concerned !
You bought a BIG TRUCK with a advertised hi-performance engine. What the
heck did you expect??? You might pick up a couple mpg when it loosens up a
bit and when you start to drive like you have a egg under the gas pedal.
What you have is pretty much what you are going to get.
I still don't understand why people buy something as large as a full size
truck and with such horrible aerodynamics, a big engine, 3:55 or 4:10's and
then bitch about horrible mileage.
Roy
NewRVguy - 22 Jun 2005 19:35 GMT
15 MPG on the highway and 10 MPG in the city is not much to ask. My father
has a massive class A motorhome that gets 11 MPG on the hwy.
> >I just bought a 2005 POWER WAGON (2500). I have only driven it 200 KM on
> >the
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> Roy
SnoMan - 23 Jun 2005 00:35 GMT
>15 MPG on the highway and 10 MPG in the city is not much to ask. My
>father
>has a massive class A motorhome that gets 11 MPG on the hwy.
Back in the late 80’s I rented a 30 foot Southwind 454 powered motor
home for a bit over 3 weeks and put close to 6000 miles on it. I
pushed that baby hard going cross country to the rockies and then
around in them. I got between 9 and 11 MPG which was not bad for a big
box that weighed about 14K and had the aero dynamics of a somewhat
"steamlined" brick. It would run 75 and 80 to if you asked too. I
do remember talking to guys with Winibagos that were 440 power in the
70’s that complained about getting 5 to 6 MPG though they said power
was good and gas was still cheap.
Roy - 24 Jun 2005 19:35 GMT
> 15 MPG on the highway and 10 MPG in the city is not much to ask.
Apparently it is.