> TB,
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> Thanks Pal!
Hey, no problem, bring that truck right over, I'll take care of it for you.
You won't recognize it when I'm done. I never said that a TC and
transmission can or does create power but they can and do create torque when
needed. When you convert something, are you not changing it? When you
change something, have you not created something out of something else? And
if you have created something, is that not a form of production? And all of
it can and is done without altering the power going in. You can listen to
the spin masters if you want, that's up to you.

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