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Car Forum / Dodge / Dodge Trucks / July 2005

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Front Bumper Replacement 03 Ram

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Randy E Schaben - 13 Jul 2005 17:23 GMT
ARHHGGG!!!!
I scratched up the front bumber on my '03 Ram 1500.  Truck has the Sport
Appearance Package with color matched bumber with driving lights.  Cannot
repair the lower part of the bumber (lower spoiler); due to it's texture the
body shop cannot match it.
Insurance company wants to replace with aftermarket bumper.
Asking for recommendations or advise as to the best aftermarket bumper.
Or should I get one of those bumber covers like the ones I've seen in the
Styling Concepts Catalog?
Any suggestions and/or opinions will be appreciated.

Randy
'03 Dodge Ram 1500 SLT
Reg Cab/Short Box
HEMI
20" Wheels.........
My Sport Truck
miles - 14 Jul 2005 01:38 GMT
> ARHHGGG!!!!
> I scratched up the front bumber on my '03 Ram 1500.  Truck has the Sport
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> Styling Concepts Catalog?
> Any suggestions and/or opinions will be appreciated.

Who is your insurer?  Read your policy.  Generally an insurance company
MUST restore your vehicle to pre-accident condition which means using
factory parts.  In order for them not to your policy must state clearly
that the use of non-factory parts can be done.
TBone - 14 Jul 2005 02:42 GMT
I don't know what insurance company you are using but just about every
policy I have read allows for the use of aftermarket parts provided they
meet or exceed factory specifications.

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> > ARHHGGG!!!!
> > I scratched up the front bumber on my '03 Ram 1500.  Truck has the Sport
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> factory parts.  In order for them not to your policy must state clearly
> that the use of non-factory parts can be done.
miles - 14 Jul 2005 03:57 GMT
> I don't know what insurance company you are using but just about every
> policy I have read allows for the use of aftermarket parts provided they
> meet or exceed factory specifications.

Specifications often have little to do with quality.

I've used Farmers, State Farm, Trans America and Allstate. All can use
aftermarket parts only with owners permission at least on my policies.

State Farm and Allstate were both sued and lost for insisting on generic
parts several years ago.  Insurers must restore a vehicle to
pre-accident condition and generic parts can't do that.

October 1999
An Illinois jury found State Farm liable for $456 million in damages and
an additional $730 million in punitive damages, bringing the total
awards in the case to $1.19 billion. State Farm has suspended
specification of generic parts on estimates. The case involved
policyholders in Illinois who claimed that the insurer calculates auto
repair estimates using the price of generic crash parts, which are
usually less expensive and that these parts do not restore the vehicle
to its original pre-crash condition. Plaintiff's lawyers had argued that
the uniformity of State Farm's claims settlement practices merited the
inclusion of all policyholders whose vehicles were repaired by State
Farm. The decision therefore paved the way for national class action
suit potentially covering 5 million policyholders and involving claims
valued at more than $2 billion.
TBone - 14 Jul 2005 16:15 GMT
> > I don't know what insurance company you are using but just about every
> > policy I have read allows for the use of aftermarket parts provided they
> > meet or exceed factory specifications.
>
> Specifications often have little to do with quality.

As sad as this sounds, it tends to be the truth.

> I've used Farmers, State Farm, Trans America and Allstate. All can use
> aftermarket parts only with owners permission at least on my policies.

The problem is that IIRC, that is only the case when you claim against your
collision.  The other insurance company can use whatever their policy says.
My wife's car was involved is two accidents within three minutes of each
other (yea, that was a fun evening) and since neither was our fault, the
other persons insurance companies made the repairs and both of the other
insurance companies had after market parts to be used provided they met or
exceeded factory specs and the body shop guaranteed their work for life
(whatever that means).  I must say, the car looks great and this body shop
is as busy as hell so I doubt that they will be going out of business
anytime soon.

> State Farm and Allstate were both sued and lost for insisting on generic
> parts several years ago.  Insurers must restore a vehicle to
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> suit potentially covering 5 million policyholders and involving claims
> valued at more than $2 billion.

Damn, I guess that might be why even thought the companies that repaired my
wife's car allowed the use of aftermarket parts, they all seemed to be up to
the job as far as fit and finish.  I guess that I was lucky that the
accident occurred after this decision and the insurance companies are a bit
paranoid.

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Randy E Schaben - 14 Jul 2005 07:34 GMT
Progessive Insurance Policy does have it in the policy that they will only
pay for aftermarket parts if they are available.  The body shop manager told
me this when I wanted an estimate.  He wouldn't do the estimate because
Progessive sends out their own adjuster who writes up an estimate based on
aftermarket parts.

I think I may be looking for a new insurance company.  This will be the
first claim I've made in years and the very first claim with Progessive.  I
guess there is a reason why their insurance cost less than the other
companies I checked with.

Any advice on quality aftermarket bumpers will be appreciated.

Randy
'03 Ram 1500 SLT
HEMI
Reg Cab/Short Box
20" wheels
scratched front bumper
My Sport Truck
>> ARHHGGG!!!!
>> I scratched up the front bumber on my '03 Ram 1500.  Truck has the Sport
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> factory parts.  In order for them not to your policy must state clearly
> that the use of non-factory parts can be done.
TBone - 14 Jul 2005 17:51 GMT
Not all aftermarket parts are bad.  Find a body shop that will guarantee
their work and use parts at or above factory specifications this way, if the
parts don't look right or hold up as expected, you can make them redo the
work.  Most good body shops have a reputation that they like to maintain and
don't like redoing work so they use the best parts that they can within the
insurance companies specifications.  It is either that or buy a factory
replacement part (if still available) and give it to the body shop to paint.

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> ARHHGGG!!!!
> I scratched up the front bumber on my '03 Ram 1500.  Truck has the Sport
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
> 20" Wheels.........
> My Sport Truck
dodge50 - 17 Jul 2005 05:13 GMT
it,s your truck you pay the insurance  make them put new back on they work
for you .you pay there salary .thats your right as the customer
 
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