trying to decide between 1500 and a Dakota.
Salesman said the hemi gets about the same gas mileage as the Dakota.
Hard to believe given the HP difference.
which years and engines are good to stay away from in both?
m.burnside@comcast.net - 19 Jul 2005 04:11 GMT
2004 Durango Hemi. I get around 11-13 in town and setting at 70 I get
around 20.
Encountered stall problem with my hemi at low speed twice and some other
stuff like warning lights coming on. That's my experience.
> trying to decide between 1500 and a Dakota.
>
> Salesman said the hemi gets about the same gas mileage as the Dakota.
> Hard to believe given the HP difference.
>
> which years and engines are good to stay away from in both?
Johnny Thunder - 19 Jul 2005 07:03 GMT
> trying to decide between 1500 and a Dakota.
>
> Salesman said the hemi gets about the same gas mileage as the Dakota.
> Hard to believe given the HP difference.
>
> which years and engines are good to stay away from in both?
The 4.7L could be a great motor if they ever work the bugs out of it.
I get about 18 mpg in my Dodge Dakota Lemon, all around, with the
limited slip differential a heavy foot and 15 inch wheels.
JAM
HoDad - 20 Jul 2005 00:18 GMT
> > trying to decide between 1500 and a Dakota.
> >
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> The 4.7L could be a great motor if they ever work the bugs out of it.
Just what 'bugs' are you refering to? I have read about a couple of
misconceptions, (such as sludge forming), but understand it to be a very
reliable engine. Post some links explaining these 'bugs'.
HD
randy1128@webtv.net - 27 Jul 2005 02:44 GMT
What bugs does the 4.7 have?
John Smith - 27 Jul 2005 11:53 GMT
> What bugs does the 4.7 have?
It doesn't have enough cubic inches...
mac davis - 27 Jul 2005 16:07 GMT
>What bugs does the 4.7 have?
we've had a 4.7L Dakota since 01 and haven't found a bug.. lots of 'em in the
grill and radiator screen, though..
mac
Please remove splinters before emailing
Ol' Duffer - 19 Jul 2005 14:56 GMT
> Salesman said the hemi gets about the same gas mileage as the Dakota.
> Hard to believe given the HP difference.
Most people drive by the seat of the pants, i.e. they expect a
certain amount of acceleration and speed and will flog the engine
as hard as needed to achieve the desired feel, regardless of engine
size. Unless the engine is incapable of meeting their unreasonable
expectations, in which case a smaller engine may give better mileage
at the cost of high levels of user whine.
From an engineering perspective, the efficiency of all modern
internal combustion engines is so similar that displacement is
almost irrelevant to mileage. A certain rate of fuel burn makes
the same amount of power in any engine, and mileage is a function
of acceleration and air and rolling resistance. It is only at
the margins of the engines' performance envelopes where there is
a significant advantage to a larger or smaller engine in a given
application.
Michael Bromley - 20 Jul 2005 03:24 GMT
> trying to decide between 1500 and a Dakota.
>
> Salesman said the hemi gets about the same gas mileage as the Dakota.
> Hard to believe given the HP difference.
>
> which years and engines are good to stay away from in both?
I have a 2004 1500 with the 5.7 liter hemi. My driving is probably 60/40
highway/city. I get right around 17mpg. Long highway trips at 65 I can get
a little better than 19mpg. If you have a lead foot you won't get anywhere
near this. Heavy acceleration will significantly lower these numbers.
Mike
JPH - 20 Jul 2005 04:27 GMT
>>trying to decide between 1500 and a Dakota.
>>
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>
> Mike
I have a 2004 Dakota Quad Cab with 4.7 4x2 just went past 10,000 miles.
Got back last week from a long trip from OK to PA and back, pulling a
4700 lb trailer at 65-70 speeds got 12 MPG average, and the truck
performed fine going over the hills in TN. Coming back without the
trailer, averaged 19.5 (2 tanks were just over 20 MPG) at an average 70
MPH speed.
Not nearly as good as the old Ford Ranger I used to have with the 4
cylinder stick shift (24/28 MPG), but then that one couldn't have pulled
the trailer or carried 5 people, either.
Good luck in whichever you choose, but I think I liked the 2002 Dodge
1500 that I used to have a little bit better than the Dakota. (That only
had a 3.7 engine, which was fine with stick shift if you don't tow heavy
loads)
JPH
Christopher Thompson - 24 Jul 2005 01:00 GMT
> > trying to decide between 1500 and a Dakota.
> >
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>
> Mike
then where's the fun in having the hemi if you cant turn er loose???? =)
SnoMan - 24 Jul 2005 20:36 GMT
>then where’s the fun in having the hemi if you cant turn er
>loose???? =)
In a heavy SUV/Truck it is a LOT more show than go.
mac davis - 25 Jul 2005 17:30 GMT
>>then wheres the fun in having the hemi if you cant turn er
>>loose???? =)
>
>In a heavy SUV/Truck it is a LOT more show than go.
you mean that there's a reason for the word "Hemi" to be in big, ugly letters on
those durangos??
mac
Please remove splinters before emailing
BDK - 26 Jul 2005 03:02 GMT
> >>then where?s the fun in having the hemi if you cant turn er
> >>loose???? =)
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>
> Please remove splinters before emailing
It's more to get you distracted, so you won't realize you're looking at
one of the ugliest SUVs ever made..;)
BDK
miles - 26 Jul 2005 14:31 GMT
> It's more to get you distracted, so you won't realize you're looking at
> one of the ugliest SUVs ever made..;)
Well I have one and ya, the front end is ugly. But it sure drives nice,
is comfy inside and tows my trailer far better than my '01 Ram 5.9L
gasser. There's nothing else on the market that comes close to it's
capabilities for the money (23K for '04 4x4 Durango SLT Hemi).
Christopher Thompson - 26 Jul 2005 21:16 GMT
> >>then where's the fun in having the hemi if you cant turn er
> >>loose???? =)
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
> mac
i thought the letters was one of the more appealing features.
seriously we have got to get them to do something about those grills!