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Location of Fuel Filters in Dodge Ram Van

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Martin - 02 Aug 2005 17:43 GMT
I'm working on a 1996 Dodge Ram Van, 3500 (1-ton) series, 360 V8,
automatic.

Can anyone tell me the location(s) of inline replaceable fuel filter(s)
for this vehicle?

Please reply to newsgroup, or email me at funkychateau at yahoo (not
the "reply to" address).

thanks,

Martin
TBone - 02 Aug 2005 18:12 GMT
> I'm working on a 1996 Dodge Ram Van, 3500 (1-ton) series, 360 V8,
> automatic.
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>
> thanks,

There is no replaceable inline fuel filter on your vehicle.  Its fuel filter
is in the tank and is part of the pump assembly.  According to DC, it is
designed to last the life of the vehicle (or at least the life of the pump).

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beekeep - 02 Aug 2005 22:19 GMT
>I'm working on a 1996 Dodge Ram Van, 3500 (1-ton) series, 360 V8,
>automatic.
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>
>Martin

On my '92 B250 it's on the passenger side on the frame rail just in
front of the rear tire.

beekeep
HLS@nospam.nix - 03 Aug 2005 01:22 GMT
> >I'm working on a 1996 Dodge Ram Van, 3500 (1-ton) series, 360 V8,
> >automatic.
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> On my '92 B250 it's on the passenger side on the frame rail just in
> front of the rear tire.

It was there on the earlier models.  The models after 1993-1994 have an
integral filter
inside the fuel tank.  They are not considered as maintenance items.

Of course, they can be changed by dropping the tank, removing the pump and
filter assembly,
etc.
Martin - 03 Aug 2005 17:57 GMT
OK, I believe the consensus is that the filter is not serviceable, nor
intended to need service.  The fuel pump was replaced about two years
ago.

Symptoms of the vehicle include stumbling and losing power after being
driven for a mile or so.  Sometimes the poor running occurs sooner, and
sometimes it may make a trip to the store and back without incident.

In the past, I had associated similar behavior of other vehicles to
clogged filters, it sounds like this is probably not the case here, as
the filter must have been designed so large as to never clog?

Are there other "usual suspects" I should check?  The CEL is not lit,
and it does work (as indicated upon startup).  Does this mean reading
codes would be unproductive?

thanks,

Martin
HLS@nospam.nix - 03 Aug 2005 20:53 GMT
> Are there other "usual suspects" I should check?  The CEL is not lit,
> and it does work (as indicated upon startup).  Does this mean reading
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>
> Martin

Might you have gotten water into the fuel?  Run the tank down and then
refill with clean
fuel, and add FI cleaner/water displacer/etc.  See if that helps. (Now, I
have seen people
pick up literally gallons of water at stations where the tanks have flooded.
If this ever
happens, no amount of chemical additive will help.  You have to remove the
tank, clean
it, and refill.)

Other possible faults include electrical, particularly ignition, fuel pump
(yep, maybe again),
crumbling vacuum hoses, and others.
Steve Scott - 04 Aug 2005 02:24 GMT
Have you checked the catalytic converter?

>OK, I believe the consensus is that the filter is not serviceable, nor
>intended to need service.  The fuel pump was replaced about two years
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
>
>Martin
Martin - 04 Aug 2005 17:06 GMT
How do you recommend checking the converter?

BTW, this vehicle passed emissions testing (for TX safety inspection)
at the end of July.  Engine didn't run rough during the test, but if
the converter were shot shouldn't it have failed the tailpipe test?

Martin
Steve Scott - 04 Aug 2005 18:26 GMT
I mention it only because I had problem that came on fairly quickly
and sounded similar to yours.  The catalytic converter had plugged
pretty severely.  There are probably many other things that could
cause similar symptoms.

>How do you recommend checking the converter?
>
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>
>Martin
Twix - 11 Aug 2005 04:08 GMT
>How do you recommend checking the converter?
>
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>
>Martin

Weird, TX doesn't make me do emissions checks on my personal or
company vehicle.  Where do you live?
Martin - 11 Aug 2005 16:45 GMT
Dallas, TX.  Certain commercial vehicles (such as buses) are exempt
from emissions testing, and (I believe) also certain geographic
locations.  Also, vehicles made before certain dates (around 1968 or
so) are exempt.

Martin
Twix - 12 Aug 2005 02:31 GMT
>Dallas, TX.  Certain commercial vehicles (such as buses) are exempt
>from emissions testing, and (I believe) also certain geographic
>locations.  Also, vehicles made before certain dates (around 1968 or
>so) are exempt.
>
>Martin
Makes sense.  I'm out in BFT.
Bob M - 11 Aug 2005 20:48 GMT
>>How do you recommend checking the converter?
>>
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> Weird, TX doesn't make me do emissions checks on my personal or
> company vehicle.  Where do you live?

 Certain counties in Texas will make you do it.

Bob
Nosey - 11 Aug 2005 21:57 GMT
> Weird, TX doesn't make me do emissions checks on my personal or
> company vehicle.  Where do you live?

All Texas registered vehicles are required to receive an annual inspection.
All inspections include a comprehensive safety inspection, however some
vehicles are required to have an emissions test in addition to the safety
inspection.

Which vehicles are required to have the emissions test?

1. Vehicles registered in a designated county. Designated counties include:
Brazoria, Fort Bend, Galveston, Harris, Montgomery, Collin, Dallas, Denton,
Ellis, Johnson, Kaufman, Parker, Rockwall, Tarrant, and El Paso counties.
Beginning September 1 , 2005 Travis and Williamson counties.

2. Gasoline powered vehicles. Diesel powered vehicles are exempt from the
emissions standards, but are still required to have the annual safety
inspection.

3. Vehicles between 2 - 24 years old OR upon expiration of the 2 year
initial inspection sticker.

El Paso motorists are subject to Two Speed Idle (TSI) testing. This type of
test consists of a tailpipe test, which test the levels of HC & CO being
emitted from the tailpipe.

Motorists in the Houston/Galveston, DFW area are subject to OBD and ASM
testing.

If your vehicle is 1996 and newer, then the vehicle is subject to OBDII
testing.
Vehicles 1995 and older are subject to ASM testing.
Motorists in the Travis/Williamson county areas will be subject to OBDII and
TSI testing.

If your vehicle is 1996 and newer, then the vehicle is subject to OBDII
testing.
Vehicles 1995 and older are subject to TSI testing.
Twix - 04 Aug 2005 04:39 GMT
What vehicle/model/engine do you have?

In the Dakotas (circa 1999-2003), there was a problem with the fuel
pump failing every 20k-50k miles.  Design issue.  About two years ago
DC redesigned the fuel pump/filter assy because there was a lot of
warranty work bieng done.

It wouldn't be a bad idea to have someone put a mechanical guage on
the fuel rail and verify the rail pressure again.  Dodge trucks have
no CEL or fault codes associated with low fuel pressure (unless it's
reeeeealy low, maybe), though their techs will tell you they do.  They
kept telling me that.  "No fault codes!"  "Check the rail pressure."
"No need, computer would throw a code!"  Bull sh.t.  15 diferent Dodge
dealers blew me off on that one point.   Take it to a Jeep dealer if
you want to see a dealer about it.  Jeep check the rail pressure that
after I asked them to, and found the problem.  It had just been
replaced the previous year (35k miles previous).

>OK, I believe the consensus is that the filter is not serviceable, nor
>intended to need service.  The fuel pump was replaced about two years
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>
>Martin
HLS@nospam.nix - 03 Aug 2005 20:48 GMT
By the way, Martin, my Dodge Custom Van is a 1997 model with the 318 engine.
It has been
rather troublefree, economical considering the nice power level, and
dependable.

I was looking for a trailer hitch for this van, and couldn't find any which
was recommended or
would fit with the 'factory step bumper'.  Finally, I saw a similar van with
a trailer hitch, and
asked the nice lady if I could crawl up under and have a look...I got the
hitch number, ordered
one online, and installed it myself in about 15 minutes.

The manufacturer says the hitch application is not recommended, but I can
tell you it works
as it is, and can be further strengthened with the addition of a couple of
fabricated brackets.

Maybe you never want a hitch, but if you do, let me know and I'll furnish
the details. The
responsibility for installing, using, and maintaining a hitch is yours.  I
take no responsibility
for what anyone does in special applications of this sort.
 
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