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Towing with Ram 1500- has anyone done it?

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Chauncey Gardiner - 06 Aug 2005 18:48 GMT
I have a 2003 Ram 1500 4x4 QC, with the 4.7 liter engine.  It has the
tow package with the 3.92:1 limited-slip differential.   I did not buy
this truck with the intention of towing anything but now I would like
to.

I may be able to get a good price on a SMALL (23') 5th wheel.  Dry
weight is around 4800 lbs.  I figure if I am careful not to load more
than about 1000 lbs into it I will be well under Dodge's recommended
maximum of 7000+.

I have heard that a 5th wheel tows more efficiently than a trailer, and
so I'm hoping this will work to my advantage.

I saw a recent discussion here that seemed to conclude that one would
be crazy to try to tow anything as heavy as 5000 lbs with this truck.
I'm just wondering- has anyone actually tried it?  Does anyone have any
recommendations about what the maximum weight should be?

Those of you who own this truck and use it to tow- what do you tow with
it?

Thanks...

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miles - 06 Aug 2005 20:16 GMT
> I have a 2003 Ram 1500 4x4 QC, with the 4.7 liter engine.  It has the
> tow package with the 3.92:1 limited-slip differential.   I did not buy
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> I'm just wondering- has anyone actually tried it?  Does anyone have any
> recommendations about what the maximum weight should be?

I have a 2001 Ram 1500 QC 4X2 with the 5.9L engine.  I pull a 3800lb dry
trailer.  It's close to 5,000lbs loaded.  It tows quite well but is slow
up the grades.  Previously I had a 2000 Ram 1500 with the 5.2L.  It
struggled to pull the same trailer.  Even on flat highways it had
trouble maintaining 60mph while towing out of OD.  I can't imagine
trying to pull 5,000lbs with the 4.7L especially the heavier 4X4.  If
you live where it's flat like Kansas you might do ok albeit rather slow.
Hawkeye65 - 07 Aug 2005 05:05 GMT
>> I have a 2003 Ram 1500 4x4 QC, with the 4.7 liter engine.  It has the
>> tow package with the 3.92:1 limited-slip differential.   I did not buy
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> 5,000lbs with the 4.7L especially the heavier 4X4.  If you live where it's
> flat like Kansas you might do ok albeit rather slow.

I'm the one who was told that pulling anything as heavy as 5000 lbs with
this truck would be crazy.
I tow a 5500lb camper with a 2003 1500, 4x4, QC, 4.7L truck. The truck pulls
it fine. I have had no problems out of the truck whatsoever. Of course, when
I pull the camper I always have the O/D turned off as I do have to go up
some hills on the way to our regular campground.

M2CW,
Hawkeye65
.boB - 07 Aug 2005 05:19 GMT
> I have a 2003 Ram 1500 4x4 QC, with the 4.7 liter engine.  It has the
> tow package with the 3.92:1 limited-slip differential.   I did not buy
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>
> Thanks...

    I used to drive a '91 ram, 5.2, 5 speed, 3.55 rear.  no tow package.  I towed
with it occasionally.  I loaded a '66 Mustang on a U-Haul trailer (about 5500#) and
towed it from MA to CO.  Since I didn't have the tow package, I used the bumper and
tap-a-lites.  Not a problem at all.  Truck towed it without any problems at all.
Couldn't use 5th very much, but that's OK.
    With your truck, I wouldn't hesitate to tow a 6,000# trailer.  It's a Dodge, and
that's what it was built for. It won't tow fast, and it won't tow quick.  But it will
get you there without fuss.  Since you already have the tow package, all you need to
add is a brake controller.  If you're traveling in high heat regularly (>100*), you
might consider an additional trans cooler.  Otherwise, don't sweat it.  Just hook it
up and go.
     Anybody who says it won't work, just doesn't know dodge trucks very well.

     The Dakota I have now will easily tow a 5,000# trailer at high altitude. It
makes a little more torque than yours, but not much.  And it is a little lighter than
yours, but not by much.

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mac davis - 08 Aug 2005 16:55 GMT
You have 2 considerations, IMHO:

Safety.. I think you're good to go, using an weight distributing hitch...
You want to be at LEAST 10% under max tow weight for safety, which you will be
if the trailer or truck aren't overloaded..

Fun... We pull a travel trailer that's 4,800# empty.. I'm guessing it's under
6,000# loaded... we have a 99 ram QQ 2wd with 5.9L gas, auto & 3.55 gears...
Grades are slow, but that's towing, IMO.. a Cummins would be nice, but we're not
going to trade up to a $40,000 truck unless we get a bigger trailer...
On level ground with OD locked out, it's a breeze to pull at whatever speed you
feel is safe... on a trip from CA to WA, we took some major grades at about 40 -
45 mph at maybe 3,500 rpm...

I think that a 5th wheel is a great idea... better weight distribution, less
total length, better ride and handling.... I'd put a good set of air bags on the
rear to help level the load and soften the ride..

The 4.7L has less torque than the 5.9, but I think it will do fine with a little
patience.. IMO, if it's a "Recreation Vehicle", you don't need to be in a hurry,
relax and enjoy the trip... YMMV

>I have a 2003 Ram 1500 4x4 QC, with the 4.7 liter engine.  It has the
>tow package with the 3.92:1 limited-slip differential.   I did not buy
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>
>Thanks...

mac

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SnoMan - 10 Aug 2005 20:37 GMT
>You have 2 considerations, IMHO:
>
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>need to be in a hurry,
>relax and enjoy the trip... YMMV

If you took the time and trouble to regear your truck to 3.92 or 4.10
you would have a completely different view of its tow performace with
it and be able to take grades in drive that you take in 2nd and reduce
engine and tranny strain too as well and make your tow vehicial last
longer too. Also you will likely see a MPG increase towing because the
engine will run at a more efficent RPM for cruising under a load and
will not have to work as hard to produce "X" amount of HP at a
higher RPM than a lower one because of HP tow requirements.
mac davis - 11 Aug 2005 16:27 GMT
>>You have 2 considerations, IMHO:
>>
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>will not have to work as hard to produce "X" amount of HP at a
>higher RPM than a lower one because of HP tow requirements.

It's really not worth it to us, Sno...
We got the ram to tow, as our dakota would break if we used it, and we really
like the dak..
OTOH, we like the ram a lot as is and we're only occasional weekend rv'ers..
Before I spent the bucks on regearing, which would mean that we're towing a LOT,
I'd trade it in on a cummins..

Anyway, my point above is that if you're not in a hurry when pulling grades, the
1500 with 360 and 3:55 does the job well... YMMV

mac

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Mark Filice - 07 Sep 2005 23:52 GMT
>I think that a 5th wheel is a great idea... better weight distribution, less
>total length, better ride and handling.... I'd put a good set of air bags on the
>rear to help level the load and soften the ride..

One problem with towing a 5th wheel with a 1500 Series Truck is the pin weight
of the 5er. Some 5th wheel trailers have a pin weight exceeding 1,000 lbs..

This may exceed the GVWR of the truck.

I tow a 6,000 lb. fully-loaded travel trailer with my 2000 Dodge Ram 1500 (5.9L,
3.55 rear gears). It does a decent job of hauling it, and I'm satisfied with the
performance and handling.

Most 5th wheels reguire a 3/4 ton or better truck because of the pin weight in
the bed.

Mark
Chauncey Gardiner - 02 Sep 2005 17:57 GMT
The verdict is in...

I didn't buy the 5th wheel, but did pick up a 25' travel trailer at
4400 lbs dry.  We loaded it lightly- probably just barely over 5000
lbs.

As some of the posters predicted, it's pretty slow up steep grades (7%)
at high altitude (7000+ feet); we drop down to about 35 mph.  But there
are turnouts so we can get out of other people's way, and- what's the
hurry?

Where the grade is not so steep, it isn't hard to keep the speed up,
but you can only go so fast with a 25' trailer behind you anyway if
there are any curves in the road.

I did follow Mac's advice and got a weight distribution hitch, which
seems to steady things quite a bit.

On the other hand, we are beginning to look longingly at a 2500 with
the Cummins, which might be nice for added confidence on cross-country
trips and would open things up in the future for a larger RV.  :)

Thanks again to all who responded...
mac davis - 13 Sep 2005 16:22 GMT
>The verdict is in...
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>
>Thanks again to all who responded...

Chauncey... enjoy the trailer, Rving is a great way to travel, see cool things
and spend lot of money on gas.. *g*

BTW: I missed the end of the movie, did you get elected president???

mac

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