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Rusting seat brackets/rods

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gary - 10 Aug 2005 14:47 GMT
Is anyone else experiencing problems with rusting seat brackets under
the seats.

I noticed the brackets under my front seats and the dealer replaced them
under warranty. However, my back seat brackets are also rusting .

I guess I'm wondering if this "sold as new" truck might have been
partially submerged. I can't imagine rust forming on metals that are in
a dry cab and protected from the elements by not only the cab itself but
also the seats.

Gary
Steve W. - 10 Aug 2005 15:48 GMT
Actually VERY common to see rust on those brackets. They are not really
protected with good paint and they rust. I have seen it on GM, Ford,
Dodge cars/trucks.

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> Is anyone else experiencing problems with rusting seat brackets under
> the seats.
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>
> Gary
Roy - 10 Aug 2005 16:35 GMT
> Is anyone else experiencing problems with rusting seat brackets under the
> seats.
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> dry cab and protected from the elements by not only the cab itself but
> also the seats.

You could very well have one that has been in water, there have been enough
floods lately. They clean them up, replace the carpet and pad, move them
around to a different state and after a couple of years stuff starts to
happen. Usually electrical problems will show up first. Sometimes you can
pick up a musty sort of smell from the car or truck.

Roy

> Gary
Steve Lusardi - 10 Aug 2005 21:02 GMT
I had the same experience on my '96, but the cause was a water leak from the
the bed lamp. The lens was cracked and water entered there and flowed
between the double panel around the rear window and to the floor. It took me
9 monthes to find that leak.
Steve

> Is anyone else experiencing problems with rusting seat brackets under the
> seats.
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>
> Gary
PJ - 11 Aug 2005 00:04 GMT
I'm doubting that any DC dealership would be selling water damaged cars.
One never knows, though, but I would guess that its a semi-normal occurance.

> Is anyone else experiencing problems with rusting seat brackets under
> the seats.
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>
> Gary
Dale Yonz - 11 Aug 2005 08:35 GMT
Ok, how about a hail storm comes through and damages a whole parking lot of
new cars.

Now depending on how bad the storm was, do they sell the cars as is or do
they fix them up?
I imagine they get the body shops some work, and sell the cars as new
without telling anyone that they were damaged.

On 8/10/05 5:04 PM, in article 2KvKe.237524$x96.216481@attbi_s72, "PJ"
<pyoung47@yahoo.com> wrote:

> I'm doubting that any DC dealership would be selling water damaged cars.
> One never knows, though, but I would guess that its a semi-normal occurance.
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>> Gary
beekeep - 11 Aug 2005 09:40 GMT
>I'm doubting that any DC dealership would be selling water damaged cars.
>One never knows, though, but I would guess that its a semi-normal occurance.

Psssst, Buddy!  Want to buy a bridge?

beekeep
Jay - 13 Aug 2005 05:04 GMT
If you look on the window sticker it will tell you the dealer it was shipped
to.
> I'm doubting that any DC dealership would be selling water damaged cars.
> One never knows, though, but I would guess that its a semi-normal
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>>
>> Gary
Mike Simmons - 13 Aug 2005 09:29 GMT
> If you look on the window sticker it will tell you the dealer it was
> shipped to.
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>>>
>>> Gary

The metal parts used in the seat frames, etc. are bare and not painted or
treated against corrosion.  Rust appearing on the surface of these parts is
not uncommon and will happen due to humidity, etc.

Mike
Roy - 13 Aug 2005 14:49 GMT
>> If you look on the window sticker it will tell you the dealer it was
>> shipped to.
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> treated against corrosion.  Rust appearing on the surface of these parts
> is not uncommon and will happen due to humidity, etc.

C'mon, you mean that your heated girly, girly seats are going to rust??
<VBG>

Seriously though, I ain't buying it. But then again you see them all the
time, I don't. I never had rust on my seat brackets on any dc trucks. Keep
in mind that the carpet get's wet with snow in the winter so the bracket
nearest the door should show sign's but they don't. This guy is talking
about his seat back as well.

Roy
> Mike
gary - 13 Aug 2005 14:58 GMT
>>>If you look on the window sticker it will tell you the dealer it was
>>>shipped to.
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> nearest the door should show sign's but they don't. This guy is talking
> about his seat back as well.

I'm the OP. This truck is in South Texas, haven't had snow lately...at
least 18 years or so. Heh.

Gary
Roy - 13 Aug 2005 15:10 GMT
>>>>If you look on the window sticker it will tell you the dealer it was
>>>>shipped to.
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> I'm the OP. This truck is in South Texas, haven't had snow lately...at
> least 18 years or so. Heh.

Gary, to satisfy my heated seat buddy, is it humid in south Texas? Also what
year and where did you buy it?

Roy
> Gary
gary - 13 Aug 2005 16:30 GMT
>>>>>If you look on the window sticker it will tell you the dealer it was
>>>>>shipped to.
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>
>>Gary

Bought it in Sept 2003. In San Antonio market. It is not as humid as
Houston by any means. Normally about 40%-60% humidity.

If they are not painted they ought to be. I ruined a perfectly good
dress shirt by trying to reach something under the seat. Nice rust stain
on the sleeve. That's how I came to see it.

BTW, I am only talking about the supports under the seat in front and
back seats. Not the metal in the seat backs.

Gary

Gary
TBone - 13 Aug 2005 17:35 GMT
Yea, it sounds like your "new" truck went for a swim before you bought it.
The actual seats were probably replaces due to water damage along with the
carpet.  You might want to lift the carpet and look for damage on the floor
boards as well.

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> >>>>>If you look on the window sticker it will tell you the dealer it was
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>
> Gary
Nosey - 13 Aug 2005 18:07 GMT
> Yea, it sounds like your "new" truck went for a swim before you
> bought it. The actual seats were probably replaces due to water
> damage along with the carpet.  You might want to lift the carpet and
> look for damage on the floor boards as well.

Not necessarily. The seat brackets on my '99 are rusty too. The rust started
shortly after I got it. I'm the first owner. I got it less than a month
after it was built. It's not severe rust (yet), just a uniform surface
discoloration.
TBone - 13 Aug 2005 18:10 GMT
Mine is a 97 and the brackets still look pretty much like they did when I
bought it and I can rub against them without getting rust stains on my
clothing.  What he is describing is heavy rust and that usually involves
liquid water.

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> > Yea, it sounds like your "new" truck went for a swim before you
> > bought it. The actual seats were probably replaces due to water
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> after it was built. It's not severe rust (yet), just a uniform surface
> discoloration.
Mike Simmons - 13 Aug 2005 18:40 GMT
> Mine is a 97 and the brackets still look pretty much like they did when I
> bought it and I can rub against them without getting rust stains on my
> clothing.  What he is describing is heavy rust and that usually involves
> liquid water.

Hmmmmmm.... I've looked and I can't find anywhere that Gary said it was
_heavy_ rust or is this just your superior intuition coming to the fore
again?  We mere mortals stand in awe!

Mike

>> > Yea, it sounds like your "new" truck went for a swim before you
>> > bought it. The actual seats were probably replaces due to water
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>> after it was built. It's not severe rust (yet), just a uniform surface
>> discoloration.
TBone - 13 Aug 2005 20:20 GMT
> > Mine is a 97 and the brackets still look pretty much like they did when I
> > bought it and I can rub against them without getting rust stains on my
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> _heavy_ rust or is this just your superior intuition coming to the fore
> again?  We mere mortals stand in awe!

No Mike, you are just being an a.shole, imagine that.  At least this time
your post sotra follows what I was saying unlike the other rust thread.
What exactly is your definition of heavy rust?  To me, if just brushing
against the part gets rust stains on your clothing, that is what I would
call fairly heavy, perhaps your definition is different.  IIRC, he also said
that they replaced some of the parts for this.  Does DC normally replace
heavy metal parts for light surface rust???

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Stephen Harding - 15 Aug 2005 20:18 GMT
>>Yea, it sounds like your "new" truck went for a swim before you
>>bought it. The actual seats were probably replaces due to water
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> after it was built. It's not severe rust (yet), just a uniform surface
> discoloration.

Same on my '98, and it's never been swimming in its life!

SMH
TranSurgeon - 16 Aug 2005 00:34 GMT
> >>Yea, it sounds like your "new" truck went for a swim before you
> >>bought it. The actual seats were probably replaces due to water
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>
> Same on my '98, and it's never been swimming in its life!

don't bring facts into this, Bone-Head isn't interested in no steeeenking
facts
Mike Simmons - 13 Aug 2005 18:39 GMT
> Yea, it sounds like your "new" truck went for a swim before you bought it.
> The actual seats were probably replaces due to water damage along with the
> carpet.  You might want to lift the carpet and look for damage on the
> floor
> boards as well.

Weeeelllll.... that settles it then.... if T-Bone sez' it went for a swim,
then by God, that must be what happened..... even though there is no other
evidence to that fact, there can be no other alternative since T-Bone said
it's so!  Face it Gary, you are screwed!

>> >>>>>If you look on the window sticker it will tell you the dealer it was
>> >>>>>shipped to.
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>>
>> Gary
Denny - 13 Aug 2005 21:23 GMT
>> Yea, it sounds like your "new" truck went for a swim before you bought
>> it.
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> evidence to that fact, there can be no other alternative since T-Bone said
> it's so!  Face it Gary, you are screwed!

lmfao!!!

Denny
TranSurgeon - 13 Aug 2005 21:24 GMT
> >> Yea, it sounds like your "new" truck went for a swim before you bought
> >> it.
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>
> lmfao!!!

is it both seats or only one

if it's only one, then 'percentages' come into play here

and we all know about the Boner and the % sign...............
TBone - 13 Aug 2005 22:37 GMT
> > >> Yea, it sounds like your "new" truck went for a swim before you bought
> > >> it.
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>
> and we all know about the Boner and the % sign...............

Hey Gary, what's up.  Did you figure out how a TC works yet?

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TranSurgeon - 13 Aug 2005 22:38 GMT
> > > >> Yea, it sounds like your "new" truck went for a swim before you
> bought
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>
> Hey Gary, what's up.  Did you figure out how a TC works yet?
TBone - 14 Aug 2005 00:53 GMT
> > > > >> Yea, it sounds like your "new" truck went for a swim before you
> > bought
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> >
> > Hey Gary, what's up.  Did you figure out how a TC works yet?

LOL, I guess not.

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TranSurgeon - 14 Aug 2005 02:19 GMT
> > > > > >> Yea, it sounds like your "new" truck went for a swim before you
> > > bought
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>
> LOL, I guess not.
gary - 15 Aug 2005 13:51 GMT
>>>>Yea, it sounds like your "new" truck went for a swim before you bought
>>>>it.
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>
> and we all know about the Boner and the % sign...............

It is both front and both back seats.

Gary
TranSurgeon - 15 Aug 2005 14:34 GMT
> It is both front and both back seats.

well, Bone-head should be able to understand it then
TBone - 15 Aug 2005 15:53 GMT
Yep, and maybe someday you will too.  BTW, you do know the fluid path in an
AC unit, don't you?

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> > It is both front and both back seats.
>
> well, Bone-head should be able to understand it then
TranSurgeon - 15 Aug 2005 17:22 GMT
> Yep, and maybe someday you will too.  BTW, you do know the fluid path in an
> AC unit, don't you?
>
> > > It is both front and both back seats.
> >
> > well, Bone-head should be able to understand it then
TranSurgeon - 15 Aug 2005 17:40 GMT
> Yep, and maybe someday you will too.  BTW, you do know the fluid path in an
> AC unit, don't you?
>
> > > It is both front and both back seats.
> >
> > well, Bone-head should be able to understand it then
Roy - 15 Aug 2005 18:11 GMT
There have been no messages with your last 2 posts.

>> Yep, and maybe someday you will too.  BTW, you do know the fluid path in
> an
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>> >
>> > well, Bone-head should be able to understand it then
TBone - 15 Aug 2005 20:48 GMT
That is because all he is doing are his childish header changes which I
believe is a symptom of his not having anything intelligent to say.

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> There have been no messages with your last 2 posts.
>
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> >> >
> >> > well, Bone-head should be able to understand it then
TranSurgeon - 16 Aug 2005 00:33 GMT
just pointing out that all I have to do is mention percentages and he's
salivating like Pavlov's dog

> There have been no messages with your last 2 posts.
>
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> >> >
> >> > well, Bone-head should be able to understand it then
TBone - 15 Aug 2005 20:51 GMT
Really Gary????  Then why is that just one post from me generates two or
more from you?  I think that we can all see who is really the well trained
one, LOL!

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> > Yep, and maybe someday you will too.  BTW, you do know the fluid path in
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> > >
> > > well, Bone-head should be able to understand it then
beekeep - 15 Aug 2005 23:22 GMT
>> Yep, and maybe someday you will too.  BTW, you do know the fluid path in
>an
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>> >
>> > well, Bone-head should be able to understand it then

It's a new week and more of the TB and TS show.  This is one of those
game shows where you try to figure out which one is the idiot.  I must
confess that I haven't figured it out yet.  What are they going to
argue about this week?  Maybe who would win fight between moose and
squirrel or the atomic weight of Upsidasium? If it weren't for the two
of them posting there would be little to read in aadt.  

Tune in next week to see if Tbone learns not to feed the greasemonkey.
I'm betting he does.

beekeep

 
Nosey - 15 Aug 2005 23:48 GMT
> Maybe who would win fight between moose and
> squirrel or the atomic weight of Upsidasium?

I think Moose, but I'm rooting for Squirrel.
Is Upsidasium heavier than Unobtanium?
Mike Simmons - 16 Aug 2005 01:50 GMT
>> Maybe who would win fight between moose and
>> squirrel or the atomic weight of Upsidasium?
>
> I think Moose, but I'm rooting for Squirrel.
> Is Upsidasium heavier than Unobtanium?

no dummy.... don't you know nuffin'?  Everybody knows that upsidaisium is
the lightest element known to mankind... er.... moosekind.... er
squirrelkind....whatever!

;^)

Mike
TBone - 16 Aug 2005 02:49 GMT
Wrong again, since nobody has been able to weigh or measure Unobtanium so
far, it could be the lightest.

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> >> Maybe who would win fight between moose and
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>
> Mike
Max Dodge - 16 Aug 2005 04:25 GMT
> Wrong again, since nobody has been able to weigh or measure Unobtanium so
> far, it could be the lightest.

Wow..... with logic like that, its impossible to be right.
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> Wrong again, since nobody has been able to weigh or measure Unobtanium so
> far, it could be the lightest.
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>>
>> Mike
Mike Simmons - 16 Aug 2005 10:18 GMT
> Wrong again, since nobody has been able to weigh or measure Unobtanium so
> far, it could be the lightest.

Never watched Rocky and Bullwinkle, didja, Bub?

Mike

>> >> Maybe who would win fight between moose and
>> >> squirrel or the atomic weight of Upsidasium?
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>>
>> Mike
TBone - 18 Aug 2005 16:51 GMT
Well, actually I did but that was Many, many, many years ago and besides the
characters, I really don't remember any of the episodes.

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> > Wrong again, since nobody has been able to weigh or measure Unobtanium so
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> >> Mike
Mike Simmons - 19 Aug 2005 02:36 GMT
> Well, actually I did but that was Many, many, many years ago and besides
> the
> characters, I really don't remember any of the episodes.

Well, if your remembery was better you would know about the properties of
upsidaisium.

Mike

>> > Wrong again, since nobody has been able to weigh or measure Unobtanium
> so
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>> >>
>> >> Mike
TBone - 19 Aug 2005 04:15 GMT
Well, since it isn't, I will concede the point

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> > Well, actually I did but that was Many, many, many years ago and besides
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> >> >> Mike
Denny - 19 Aug 2005 10:58 GMT
> Well, since it isn't, I will concede the point

Not to be a smart-a.s or nothing, but is that the first thing you've ever
conceded without a 12 day on-going argument over??

Denny
TBone - 19 Aug 2005 17:04 GMT
LOL, because there is no reason for an argument.  My initial comment was
based on the simple logic that if you could not obtain something, how would
you know what its actual properties are?  But in the cartoon world, anything
can happen and for all I know, even though it is unobtainable, its
properties may still be known and since I don't remember or know either way,
why argue about it.

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> > Well, since it isn't, I will concede the point
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>
> Denny
Max Dodge - 19 Aug 2005 21:21 GMT
> LOL, because there is no reason for an argument.

Never stopped you in the past.

> My initial comment was
> based on the simple logic that if you could not obtain something, how
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> way,
> why argue about it.

Indeed. Perhaps you should remember that when discussing such things as
helium, warranty work, and...... well almost anything as far as you are
concerned.

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> LOL, because there is no reason for an argument.  My initial comment was
> based on the simple logic that if you could not obtain something, how
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>> Denny
TranSurgeon - 20 Aug 2005 00:43 GMT
> > LOL, because there is no reason for an argument.
>
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> helium, warranty work, and...... well almost anything as far as you are
> concerned.

percentages ?
TBone - 20 Aug 2005 04:30 GMT
> > LOL, because there is no reason for an argument.
>
> Never stopped you in the past.

PKB

> > My initial comment was
> > based on the simple logic that if you could not obtain something, how
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> helium, warranty work, and...... well almost anything as far as you are
> concerned.

PKB

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Max Dodge - 20 Aug 2005 06:39 GMT
>> > LOL, because there is no reason for an argument.
>>
>> Never stopped you in the past.
>
> PKB

And as if to prove me correct, in a spot where there is no reason for an
argument, and plenty of reason to simply shut up (as in, saving face, and
proving you CAN walk away from what you think is a non issue), you jump
right in with stupid name calling.

Like it or not, you DO jump right through hopps placed in your path. Or, in
this case, placed as a diversionary tactic.... right friggin through. Almost
like shooting fish in a barrel, except the splash back in the face.

Any answer from you at this point would simply prove me correct even
further. Can you resist?

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>> > LOL, because there is no reason for an argument.
>>
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>
> PKB
TBone - 20 Aug 2005 17:01 GMT
> >> > LOL, because there is no reason for an argument.
> >>
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> proving you CAN walk away from what you think is a non issue), you jump
> right in with stupid name calling.

The only name calling here is coming from you there Maxi.  All I said was
PKB to what you said and if you attribute that to name calling, then the
name calling initially must have came from you, imagine that.  The fact that
you posted in this part of the thread at all proves my point that it is you
jumping in with the name calling and this responce from you now shows that
you are unable to as you say, save face and prove you CAN walk away from
what you think is a non issue.

> Like it or not, you DO jump right through hopps placed in your path. Or, in
> this case, placed as a diversionary tactic.... right friggin through. Almost
> like shooting fish in a barrel, except the splash back in the face.

Funny, it looks more like you doing the jumping here since this thread had
nothing to do with you and yet here you are, first with the name calling and
then with the jumping when called on it, LOL.

> Any answer from you at this point would simply prove me correct even
> further. Can you resist?

There is nothing to resist here Maxi and your attempt at reverse psychology
is about as lame as Gary's.  But you are right, this is a non issue so feel
free to have the last word, you have already shown your cards.

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Max Dodge - 20 Aug 2005 23:36 GMT
> The only name calling here is coming from you there Maxi.

Again, you are wrong. Please post where in this thread I've called anyone a
name, let alone you. You simply cannot resist.

> All I said was
> PKB to what you said and if you attribute that to name calling, then the
> name calling initially must have came from you, imagine that.

Say what? Because you said something, you are blaming it on me? Thts so
typical of your bullshit, its hilarious. You simply cannot resist.

> The fact that
> you posted in this part of the thread at all proves my point that it is
> you
> jumping in with the name calling and this responce from you now shows that
> you are unable to as you say, save face and prove you CAN walk away from
> what you think is a non issue.

LOL, Please post where in this thread I've called anyone a name, let alone
you. You simply cannot resist. It is a toy. YOU are a toy. You simply cannot
resist.

> Funny, it looks more like you doing the jumping here since this thread had
> nothing to do with you and yet here you are, first with the name calling
> and
> then with the jumping when called on it, LOL.

LOL, Please post where in this thread I've called anyone a name, let alone
you. You simply cannot resist.

> There is nothing to resist here Maxi and your attempt at reverse
> psychology
> is about as lame as Gary's.  But you are right, this is a non issue so
> feel
> free to have the last word, you have already shown your cards.

Last word? LOL, You simply cannot resist. Its all yours.....I've proven my
point. You'll argue about anything, blame people for things that never
happened, or that you have done. Yer smoked.

Come on, ya know ya can't resist.....

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>> >> > LOL, because there is no reason for an argument.
>> >>
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> feel
> free to have the last word, you have already shown your cards.
beekeep - 19 Aug 2005 11:42 GMT
>> Well, actually I did but that was Many, many, many years ago and besides
>> the
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>
>Mike

I think we're giving away how old we are!  

Anybody remember the delema when Fantail's seaweed crackers
disapeared?

beekeep
Mike Simmons - 20 Aug 2005 01:27 GMT
>>> Well, actually I did but that was Many, many, many years ago and besides
>>> the
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>
> beekeep

You lost me there, Greg..... 'splain yourself.

Mike
beekeep - 20 Aug 2005 10:30 GMT
>>>> Well, actually I did but that was Many, many, many years ago and besides
>>>> the
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>
>Mike

Fantail was Capt. Tugs parrot on the Popeye show back in the early
60s.  Fantail couldn't be shot off on his space mission because the
seaweed crackers disapeared.  Like the Bullwinkle show there was
always a hint that the Commies were out to get us and would take any
means to best us.  'Wouldn't be surprised if the Gov't had a hand in
some of these shows helping with the portraying of the "Evil Empire."

beekeep
Mike Simmons - 20 Aug 2005 13:31 GMT
>>>>> Well, actually I did but that was Many, many, many years ago and
>>>>> besides
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>
> beekeep

Hmmmmm.. I remember Popeye cartoons, but I don't remember the Popeye show...
was that local maybe?

Mike
Roy - 20 Aug 2005 14:04 GMT
>>>>>> Well, actually I did but that was Many, many, many years ago and
>>>>>> besides
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> Hmmmmm.. I remember Popeye cartoons, but I don't remember the Popeye
> show... was that local maybe?

I don't remember it either. Mike, we are probably too young to have seen it.
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Roy

> Mike
beekeep - 21 Aug 2005 10:48 GMT
>>>>>> Well, actually I did but that was Many, many, many years ago and
>>>>>> besides
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>
>Mike

I don't know, it was soooo many years ago.

beekeep
beekeep - 17 Aug 2005 01:04 GMT
Your honor, the prosecution rests.

beekeep

>Wrong again, since nobody has been able to weigh or measure Unobtanium so
>far, it could be the lightest.
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>>
>> Mike
 
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