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Car Forum / Dodge / Dodge Trucks / August 2005

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fredbarga246@hotmail.com - 12 Aug 2005 11:05 GMT
Anyone plow with a Dakota?  Am thinking of buying one to plow a small
condo complex with short narrow drives and streets.
Any thoughts?
Fred
Roy - 12 Aug 2005 14:07 GMT
> Anyone plow with a Dakota?  Am thinking of buying one to plow a small
> condo complex with short narrow drives and streets.
> Any thoughts?
> Fred

Never plowed with a Dakota but...............a couple of thoughts come to
mind.

Short narrow drives and streets are a pia. No place for the snow to roll off
the blade, you have to have some weight and grunt to push the snow and stack
it. Also, if you have to back drag, a light plow on a Dakota probably won't
do it.

Commercial plowing is best done with a properly optioned 3/4 ton or bigger
truck. I wouldn't want to be out in one of those 2-3 inch per hour storms
with a Dakota. But that's me, you on the other hand......

Roy
Mike Simmons - 13 Aug 2005 18:33 GMT
>> Anyone plow with a Dakota?  Am thinking of buying one to plow a small
>> condo complex with short narrow drives and streets.
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>
> Roy

And...... any plow truck without heated leather seats is useless IMHO.......

;^)

Mike
Denny - 13 Aug 2005 10:27 GMT
> Anyone plow with a Dakota?  Am thinking of buying one to plow a small
> condo complex with short narrow drives and streets.
> Any thoughts?
> Fred

I don't but a good friend of mine uses a '93-'94?? Dakota with a 6.5'
Western. It does fine on driveways and little spots where you have a couple
of swipes and go. Anything over about 6" and it takes him a while. He does
one parking lot for a bowling alley and takes him a couple of hours to do
it. I drove by and looked at it one time and had to chuckle, it shouldn't
have taken over about 45 minutes for the lot. Overall, he's happy with it.

Btw, I second what Roy said,  a bigger truck will handle it better.

Denny
fredbarga246@hotmail.com - 13 Aug 2005 11:32 GMT
I agree, a bigger truck will be better, but the turning radius is the
problem.  With the short drives, narrow streets and split rail fences,
turning and backing becomes a real problem.  I have a 2001 Ford F250
and a 2005 2500 Ram, both seem to be too long when you hang a plow on
the front.
Fred

>> Anyone plow with a Dakota?  Am thinking of buying one to plow a small
>> condo complex with short narrow drives and streets.
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>
>Denny
Roy - 13 Aug 2005 14:37 GMT
>I agree, a bigger truck will be better, but the turning radius is the
> problem.  With the short drives, narrow streets and split rail fences,
> turning and backing becomes a real problem.  I have a 2001 Ford F250
> and a 2005 2500 Ram, both seem to be too long when you hang a plow on
> the front.
> Fred

If it is that tight without snow, you aren't going to get it done with a
dakota either. Everything will shrink by a few feet once you get some snow
banks along the sides. Don't know where you live but a couple of back to
back storms and no melting and you'll be renting a bobcat to get in there.
That might be the thing, find out how much somebody wants per hour for a
bobcat or front end loader and price the job accordingly. Condo's can be a
pia, they may not want you pileing snow on the lawns. If you can pile the
snow watch for melt and refreeze on walks and driveways. One slip and fall
and it is sue city, have a bunch of insurance.

One last thought. A old CJ5, if you can find a good one. I've looked for one
for a couple of years and yet to find a decent one, maybe your luck will be
better.

Roy

>>> Anyone plow with a Dakota?  Am thinking of buying one to plow a small
>>> condo complex with short narrow drives and streets.
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>>
>>Denny
Steve W. - 13 Aug 2005 17:19 GMT
Where are you Roy? I saw a CJ-5 in fresh paint the other day while on
the road. It was outside Amsterdam NY.  Was sitting on a trailer for
sale for 1500.00
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Steve W.

As for plowing I ran a plow outfit on a CJ for a few years. Nice and
nimble and easy to handle. I don't bother with plows any more. Picked up
a nice tractor with a cab and blower on it. Makes it much easier to
clear out lots and sidewalks. I have been thinking about building a nice
blower rig using a Gator type vehicle with a hydraulic drive blower
running off an engine in the rear bed area. Figured on using a 4 wheel
water cooled unit, then I could tap the cooling system for a heater.

> >I agree, a bigger truck will be better, but the turning radius is the
> > problem.  With the short drives, narrow streets and split rail fences,
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> >>
> >>Denny
Roy - 13 Aug 2005 17:51 GMT
> Where are you Roy? I saw a CJ-5 in fresh paint the other day while on
> the road. It was outside Amsterdam NY.  Was sitting on a trailer for
> sale for 1500.00

I'm in southeastern MA. If you are able shoot me the phone number for it. It
won't hurt to talk to the owner.

Roy
Steve W. - 14 Aug 2005 15:08 GMT
> > Where are you Roy? I saw a CJ-5 in fresh paint the other day while on
> > the road. It was outside Amsterdam NY.  Was sitting on a trailer for
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>
> Roy

I'll grab any info the next time I'm out there. (probably late Sunday or
Mon.)
Roy - 14 Aug 2005 15:29 GMT
>> > Where are you Roy? I saw a CJ-5 in fresh paint the other day while
> on
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> I'll grab any info the next time I'm out there. (probably late Sunday or
> Mon.)

Thanks, I appreciate it.

Roy
Denny - 13 Aug 2005 22:02 GMT
>I agree, a bigger truck will be better, but the turning radius is the
> problem.  With the short drives, narrow streets and split rail fences,
> turning and backing becomes a real problem.  I have a 2001 Ford F250
> and a 2005 2500 Ram, both seem to be too long when you hang a plow on
> the front.
> Fred

I use a 1500 std cab and short bed. I do a bunch of fast-food restaraunt
type lots and don't have a problem. I have the quick ratio steering gear and
it seems to work good as far at turning radius goes. I had to put a cooler
on the return hose coming out of the gearbox to keep from burning the fluid.
I still flush it every spring when I put the plow away tho.

The ole Dodge has to call for help if there more than 5-6" on the big lots.
It's just more than it can handle unless you want to spend all night getting
it done.

Denny

>>> Anyone plow with a Dakota?  Am thinking of buying one to plow a small
>>> condo complex with short narrow drives and streets.
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>>
>>Denny
Roy - 14 Aug 2005 14:35 GMT
>>I agree, a bigger truck will be better, but the turning radius is the
>> problem.  With the short drives, narrow streets and split rail fences,
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> I use a 1500 std cab and short bed. I do a bunch of fast-food restaraunt
> type lots and don't have a problem.

Why am I not surprised by this. Ya gotta be paid in food.
<GBFG>

>I have the quick ratio steering gear and it seems to work good as far at
>turning radius goes. I had to put a cooler on the return hose coming out of
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> lots. It's just more than it can handle unless you want to spend all night
> getting it done.

Gotta plow with it fer sure.

Roy

> Denny
>
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>>>
>>>Denny
SnoMan - 14 Aug 2005 00:36 GMT
"fredbarga246" wrote:
>I agree, a bigger truck will be better, but the turning radius is the
>problem.  With the short drives, narrow streets and split rail fences,
>turning and backing becomes a real problem.  I have a 2001 Ford F250
>and a 2005 2500 Ram, both seem to be too long when you hang a plow on
>the front.
>Fred

I have plowed snow for over 20 years now and with as much as 3 trucks
on time. Lightweight trucks are "toys" at best pushing snow because
when it gets ugly you need weight and grunt to get the job done. If
you want to clear your driveway that is one thing but to use it
commercailly is another matter. I can clear over a foot of snow in one
8 foot pass wet or dry with relative ease. Also when you plow you want
to plow at about 6 to 10 MPH  when possible because with a good plow
design it will roll it and throw it out further off of the side of the
blade and make a small edge stack.  A far as length, I alway use 3/4
and 1 ton trucks with standard cabs and SRW’s and I have no turning
issues and this is where chevies after 87 shine for two reasons. They
turn tight and the CV joints in front axle shafts with IFS do not
torque bind/whip back through steering wheel like a straight axle will
when you crowd it in a tight turn plowing. I must admitt I was
apprehensive when I got my first IFS GM truck to plow with but now I
would NEVER go back to a striaght front axled plow truck.
Roy - 14 Aug 2005 14:31 GMT
> "fredbarga246" wrote:
>>I agree, a bigger truck will be better, but the turning radius is the
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> commercailly is another matter. I can clear over a foot of snow in one
> 8 foot pass wet or dry with relative ease.

Sounds like a plan for breakage.

>Also when you plow you want
> to plow at about 6 to 10 MPH  when possible because with a good plow
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> apprehensive when I got my first IFS GM truck to plow with but now I
> would NEVER go back to a striaght front axled plow truck.

I'm not going to comment on this other than to say that around here chevies
are the least popular plow truck.

Roy
. - 13 Aug 2005 17:06 GMT
> Anyone plow with a Dakota?  Am thinking of buying one to plow a small
> condo complex with short narrow drives and streets.
> Any thoughts?
> Fred

The Dakota is a very light duty truck. A 3/4 ton or better will stand up to
the abuse of snow plowing better than a Dakota.

If you just want to remove snow, purchase a used farm tractor with a drag
blade.
 
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