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Car Forum / Dodge / Dodge Trucks / September 2005

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Time for some discussion on upgrades that do work

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Dimbo Spams - 02 Sep 2005 18:32 GMT
I have been lurking inside this group since my first dodge truck back in 97.
I am now an owner of a 2004.5 325 600 2500 Cummins.
With all the talk about K&N and the claims and disclaimers etc. what
upgrades are recommended and why?
I see ads in TDR for "air tabs", for chips, for dual exhaust, for induction
systems etc.
Without this turning into the inevitable "diss" session against one another,
could we have a discussion
on this topic, and enlighten all the readers?
Have a safe holiday weekend, and continue in your thoughts our fellow
citizens in the gulf coast area.
Joe

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arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body; but rather to skid
in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly
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Tom Lawrence - 02 Sep 2005 21:59 GMT
> With all the talk about K&N and the claims and disclaimers etc. what
> upgrades are recommended and why?

Absolutely, positively no K&N filtration systems of any kind on your engine.
They simply don't filter enough particulate matter.  AFE's PG7 filters have
been shown (through oil analysis) to work well, as well as the UNI
dual-stage foam filters being used in the Scotty Air Systems intakes.

What's your purpose for looking to upgrade?  More top-end power?  Better
fuel economy?  Quicker acceleration?

> I see ads in TDR for "air tabs", for chips, for dual exhaust, for
> induction systems etc.

There are several different fueling boxes, as well as tuners, available that
work well.  (Fueling boxes are add-on modules that trick the ECM into
delivering more fuel, or delivering fuel sooner - tuners re-program the ECM
directly to alter the fuel and timing curves).  On the low-end (40-70HP),
boxes like the Edge EZ and the Quadzilla XZT are popular add-ons.  In the
mid-range (80-120HP), you have the Edge Juice, the Quadzilla Xzillaraider,
and the Bullydog Powerpup (this is a tuner).  On the high-end (140-200HP),
there's the Edge Hot Juice (just a software upgrade to the Juice), the
Xzillaraider race version, the Bullydog Powerpup w/ their "Crazy Larry"
program, or the TST PowermaxCR (with either the standard program, or the
twin-turbo program).  With all but the low-end here, you don't just slap
these things on and go...  you need to address other areas, such as the
intake (get more air, at less restriction, into the turbo to help lower
EGT's), the exhaust (gotta get all that air and burned fuel out - less
restriction is better here as well), the turbo (stock turbos will run out of
their efficiency range, and/or choke off the exhaust stream, making for high
EGTs), the fuel supply (a higher capacity pump is needed to keep the fuel
pressure to the injection pump in the positive region when adding more
fuel), and the drivetrain (clutch/transmission upgrades are necessary to
cope with the added power).

Entire books can be written on this subject, as needs and goals vary widely
from person to person.  What exactly are you looking to get out of your
truck?
Nosey - 03 Sep 2005 18:51 GMT
> Absolutely, positively no K&N filtration systems of any kind on your
> engine. They simply don't filter enough particulate matter.  AFE's
> PG7 filters have been shown (through oil analysis) to work well, as
> well as the UNI dual-stage foam filters being used in the Scotty Air
> Systems intakes.

Tom, what's your take on the BHAF?
For those that don't know what that is, it's a Big Honkin' Air Filter. Just
remove the factory filter box and hose clamp one of the following part
number filters on the end of the inlet hose to the turbo. These things are
HUGE.
Pictures:
http://www.geocities.com/robertballard_22655/Napa2790.html

Fleetguard AH19037
NAPA 2790
WIX 42790
Donaldson B105006
Baldwin PA2820
Hastings AF1012
AFE 20-40044
Carquest 87790
John Deere pmah19037
Big A 93790
Caterpillar 3i0005
Fleetrite ahr819037
Luber-finer laf2531
Fram ca6818
UNI 908
Tom Lawrence - 03 Sep 2005 20:07 GMT
> Tom, what's your take on the BHAF?

I think they also provide excellent filtration...  I just can't fit one in
my engine bay anymore  :)  They make up for the slightly higher restriction
of the paper element with volume (as you say, they're huge...  and Bob's
running a fairly small one, at that).
 
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