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Car Forum / Dodge / Dodge Trucks / September 2005

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Question Re Electric Fan Gen 2 Cummins

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Fred - 14 Sep 2005 00:00 GMT
Hi Group!

I have a 1999 2WD CTD and using it as a tractor for my 28 foot 8000lb 5th
wheel.  Getting tired of turning on the heater fan in heavy traffic or when
backing up the unit to keep the transmission coolant temperature down around
200F.  Does anyone in the group know of any auxillliary electric fan mods
for these trucks?

TIA

Fred
SnoMan - 14 Sep 2005 21:44 GMT
>Hi Group!
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>Fred

Have you considered a more agressive clutch for fan and a more
agressive fan as well?  The same thing that can work for a gas motor,
can work for a oil burner too. I have a 2000 k3500 gas truck and it
has a HD 4 core radiator, clutch and a 10 bladed fan and it is the
coolest running truck I have ever had no matter what I do it never
gets above 200, even idling in traffic on a hot day with A/C on while
towing. Given your units age, the clucth fan could be getting a bit
weak too.
Termite - 15 Sep 2005 13:53 GMT
> Hi Group!
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> Fred
Horton makes an electric fan/clutch that works great. It also has a
manual switch to turn it on when needed. Its very pricy and takes a few
hours to install, but does a great job I am told. Do a google search on
Horton fan and you will find everything you need to know about the fan.

Ron

"if it ain't broke, fix it until it is"
TBone - 15 Sep 2005 16:12 GMT
> > Hi Group!
> >
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> hours to install, but does a great job I am told. Do a google search on
> Horton fan and you will find everything you need to know about the fan.

As they say, you get what you pay for.

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John Smith - 15 Sep 2005 17:06 GMT
>> Hi Group!
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> "if it ain't broke, fix it until it is"

The Horton for Dodge is long out of production.  As far as I know they
didn't even bother doing one for the 24 valve engine.  I sold the one I had
on my '96 rather than try to make it work on my '01, didn't think it was
worth it on the old truck either.

Several people on the TDR have complained about them being discontinued,
the story they're getting is the material for the fan itself is no longer
available.  I find that hard to believe.  I think it's got more to do with
insufficient sales.

If you want to pursue it with Horton, the site is:

http://www.hortoninc.com/index_en.asp

You might want to see if you can find one of the transmission cooler / fans
from a first generation truck and adapt that to your truck.  Shamelessly
stolen text follows:

 But, Dodge brought out a heavy duty
under-bed-mounted transmission oil cooler in mid '91 to take care of
converter
heating in the trucks with Cummins engines.  They gave me one for my '91 so
I
got another and hooked them in series and also an external filter.  The fans
came on by temperature (I installed a manual switch also).  It sounded like
a
B-29 when the fans were running.  I could actually watch the fluid
temperature
come down when the fans came on during a hard pull.
Fred - 15 Sep 2005 23:47 GMT
Thanks for the input guys...really appreciate the info. 8-)

Guess I'll have to start hunting around the wrecking yards to see if I can
find a Gen 1 transmission cooler. 8-(

Fred

>>> Hi Group!
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> temperature
> come down when the fans came on during a hard pull.
SnoMan - 17 Sep 2005 05:43 GMT
>> Hi Group!
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>
>"if it ain’t broke, fix it until it is"

A question it for this application because for a electric fan to
develop enough power to move enough air it takes a lot of current to
do it and the power to run a electric fan of a couple of HP in size
does not exist in your trucks electrical system. (it would take 130 to
150 amps minimum to make a few HP on a electric fan)
Tom Lawrence - 18 Sep 2005 05:51 GMT
> A question it for this application because for a electric fan to
> develop enough power to move enough air it takes a lot of current to

The Horton product being discussed is/was an electric clutch, not an
electric fan.
Fred - 18 Sep 2005 14:44 GMT
Actually using just the cab heater fan and cycling coolant through the
heater core helps quite a bit...tough to do that when its 80+ degrees
outside and it's raining and you have all the windows down trying to get the
heat out of the cab.

Fred
>> A question it for this application because for a electric fan to
>> develop enough power to move enough air it takes a lot of current to
>
> The Horton product being discussed is/was an electric clutch, not an
> electric fan.
 
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