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Car Forum / Dodge / Dodge Trucks / September 2005

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recomendations on EGTs

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Christopher  Thompson - 18 Sep 2005 00:53 GMT
alright id like to know a few thoughts on witch EGT gauge to get, mounting
solutions, and where/how to put the sensor on a 05 cummins.

tia

chris
Tom Lawrence - 18 Sep 2005 05:40 GMT
> alright id like to know a few thoughts on witch EGT gauge to get, mounting
> solutions, and where/how to put the sensor on a 05 cummins.

For a single gauge, the Mopar SRT-10 A-pillar is a good choice.  Available
from Geno's Garage (http://www.genosgarage.com), it will replace the stock
A-pillar trim with one that has a molded-in gauge holder (this is used from
the factory on SRT-10 Rams to hold an oil temp. gauge).  It retains your
grab handle, so there's no downside to using it.

To match your truck's gauges, either a DiPricol (although some, myself
included, don't like the big white center cap) or an ISSPRO EV-series are
the closest match to the factory gauges.  I personally run an Autometer
Phantom, but that's because I went with a full compliment of Autometer
gauges.

As for mounting the thermocouple, you want it in the exhaust manifold, where
it will do the most good.  Drill/tap a hole right above the turbo mounting
flange, in the rear-most of the two passages.  This will measure the EGT's
from the rear cylinders, which run a little hotter than the rest.  Start
with a cooled-off engine, and duct-tape off the exhaust tip, then poke a
small hole through the duct tape.  You want to create some backpressure.
Next, start the engine, and while wearing gloves and goggles (or a
faceshield), drill a 21/64" (or 11/32", or even 5/16" will work - but 21/64"
is the closest to the 'correct' size) into the manifold.  All the chips will
be blown back out at you, so watch yourself (but better at you than into
your turbo).  Now you can shut the truck off, remove the duct tape, and let
it cool a bit.

Get a 1/8"-27 NPT pipe tap, and load up the flutes with grease.  Now
carefully tap the hole you drilled.  You'll probably want to go 5-6 full
turns on the tap to get the thread depth correct.  Turn the tap until it
gets a bite of the metal, and you feel good resistance to turning it.  Then
back it off 1/4-turn, and go forward again.  That will break the chip off,
and embed it in the grease.  You want to tap deep enough so that the probe
threads in 3 full turns.

Once that's done, just put the probe in, and hook up it's wiring to the
gauge.  Do NOT cut the probe wires to length - coil up the excess underneath
the dash.

For lighting, you can tap the larger-of-the-two orange/black wires from the
headlamp switch (this is the dimmer circuit).  For a switched +12V, you can
tap the red wire from the cigarette lighter.  For ground, you can use the
grounding screw on the lower dash frame, behind the knee blocker panel.
Christopher  Thompson - 18 Sep 2005 13:30 GMT
thanks tom.

> > alright id like to know a few thoughts on witch EGT gauge to get, mounting
> > solutions, and where/how to put the sensor on a 05 cummins.
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> tap the red wire from the cigarette lighter.  For ground, you can use the
> grounding screw on the lower dash frame, behind the knee blocker panel.
jim schultz - 19 Sep 2005 06:15 GMT
I like the idea of the duct tape...sounds alot better than fishing with a
little magnet. I need to do this also.
> thanks tom.
>
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>> tap the red wire from the cigarette lighter.  For ground, you can use the
>> grounding screw on the lower dash frame, behind the knee blocker panel.
Termite - 19 Sep 2005 20:27 GMT
The "little magnet" works fine. I just did it on my 2005 2500.  Its
important to use plenty of grease on the drill bit and also the tap. Go
slow, taking small  "bites" at a time.
Mine is mounted pre turbo in the down tube going to the turbo. After
mounting the probe (use some anti-seize on it) , I started up the
engine and let it idle for a couple of minutes.  Working great.
SnoMan - 20 Sep 2005 19:36 GMT
>The "little magnet" works fine. I just did it on my 2005 2500.  Its
>important to use plenty of grease on the drill bit and also the tap.
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>mounting the probe (use some anti-seize on it) , I started up the
>engine and let it idle for a couple of minutes.  Working great.
\

This is a good place to do it. You want it as close to the exhaust
ports as possible to get a truer reading because the gas is cooling
the further it expands and the further it gets from the exhaust ports.
Termite - 19 Sep 2005 20:29 GMT
Also i forgot. The drill and tap size is dependant on the probe size. I
used Isspro gauges and the probe was 1/4"
 
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