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I have a 26-5c Arctic Fox 2006 5th Wheel on order, due end of October. I visited the dealer today and found he has a 2005 model sitting in his inventory. He told me that the previous owner had a 360 Dodge Gas truck and had problems pulling this unit. Frankly this scared the blazes out of me. My truck is a 97 - 3/4 ton CTD 12 valve. I know the truck has 180 HP and 420 ft lbs of torque. It's an auto. transmission and I don't intend ever using the OD feature with this new trailer. I know nothing about the power of a 360 Dodge vs my truck. Do I need to be worried? >I have a 26-5c Arctic Fox 2006 5th Wheel on order, due end of October. I >visited the dealer today and found he has a 2005 model sitting in his [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >ever using the OD feature with this new trailer. I know nothing about the >power of a 360 Dodge vs my truck. Do I need to be worried? Yes.... I will never pull anything with a gas motor again. Had an 02 HO CTD sold it and got the Hemi... LOL... I now have a 04 HO CTD and I will never go back to gas... >>I have a 26-5c Arctic Fox 2006 5th Wheel on order, due end of October. I >>visited the dealer today and found he has a 2005 model sitting in his [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > and got the Hemi... LOL... I now have a 04 HO CTD and I will never go back > to gas... I have towed with gas for years and I have no plans of changing now. never had any problems if they are properly geared for the load. I like the quietness of a gas motor and I am not found of the oder of diesel fuel or exhaust. I do work around diesels though and I have a 19k dozer sitting in my yard now for a job this weekend. (still do not like the smell though)  Signature----------------- www.thesnoman.com >>>I have a 26-5c Arctic Fox 2006 5th Wheel on order, due end of October. I >>>visited the dealer today and found he has a 2005 model sitting in his [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] >sitting in my yard now for a job this weekend. (still do not like the >smell though) well, i am on the opposite end. i towed with gas for years because i listened to all those people who hate diesels. finally bought my first diesel about four years ago. there is no comparison. not only do i like the diesel better as a daily driver, but when you get to towing the diesel shines. i am not a techy guy and rely on others here for the technical answers, but from a drivers perspective, i can not imagine anyone that would tow with a gas motor anymore. >>>>I have a 26-5c Arctic Fox 2006 5th Wheel on order, due end of October. I >>>>visited the dealer today and found he has a 2005 model sitting in his [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > here for the technical answers, but from a drivers perspective, i can > not imagine anyone that would tow with a gas motor anymore. They have their place but not in my driveway, again heir edge is over played but detriot no offering proper ratio options with gas motors like they did years ago. When you gear a gas and diesel the same way, the gas will loss every day and it is that mind set that give the oil burner its big jump. BTW gas is 2.71 here and diesel 3.34and you have to get over 20% better MPG, just to break even with fuel cost with a diesel. A friend of mine bought his first oil burner and he is starting to have some second thought now a that extra payment is sinking in AND he is paying more for fuel too. ----------------- www.thesnoman.com >>>>>I have a 26-5c Arctic Fox 2006 5th Wheel on order, due end of October. >>>>>I visited the dealer today and found he has a 2005 model sitting in his [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] > will loss every day and it is that mind set that give the oil burner its > big jump. What would you feel are the optimum gear for a gas and a diesel? When you decide that, perhaps would you give the results of MPG, both loaded and m/t of the two trucks. >BTW gas is 2.71 here and diesel 3.34and you have to get over 20% better >MPG, just to break even with fuel cost with a diesel. A friend of mine >bought his first oil burner and he is starting to have some second thought >now a that extra payment is sinking in AND he is paying more for fuel too. Here in MA, diesel and reg are the same price 2.79, at least it was yesterday Roy >>>>>>I have a 26-5c Arctic Fox 2006 5th Wheel on order, due end of October. >>>>>>I visited the dealer today and found he has a 2005 model sitting in his [quoted text clipped - 45 lines] > > Roy I will not argue the MPG aspect because diesel has a edge because of higher compression ratio needed for it to run also yeilds higher thermodynamic efficency (auto makers and gas truck owners are hung up on 87 octane so they cannot raise CR ratio higher to boost efficency) and the fuel has a higher energy content so no surprizes here. As far as best ratio for a gasser that depends on the load and the engine and there is not blank rule but it is not a 3.55 or 3.73 like some think. ANother edge you have with diesels as shipped is that they operate at or very near their peak VE (Volumetric Efficency, which is also its torque peak) when cruising where as a modern gas motor usually peaks past 3000 RPM and some as high as 4000 RPM (not good for a tow motor). Like a oil furner a gas motor will use the least amount of fuel per HP hour produced when working hard but most are hung up with lower RPMs and efficency drops and MPG sucks. Signature----------------- www.thesnoman.com >>>>>>>I have a 26-5c Arctic Fox 2006 5th Wheel on order, due end of >>>>>>>October. I visited the dealer today and found he has a 2005 model [quoted text clipped - 61 lines] > hard but most are hung up with lower RPMs and efficency drops and MPG > sucks. So when running your gas engine at 4,000rpm loaded your longevity is what about? My Cummins is somewhere in the area of 250-300,000. So, what are the advantages to the gasser? Let me help ya, there are none. Well, personal preference is one. Roy > So when running your gas engine at 4,000rpm loaded your longevity is what > about? Not long since experience tells me that at that RPM, the water pump is cavitating. > My Cummins is somewhere in the area of 250-300,000. So, what are the > advantages to the gasser? Let me help ya, there are none. Well, personal > preference is one. Testify! >>>>>I have a 26-5c Arctic Fox 2006 5th Wheel on order, due end of October. I >>>>>visited the dealer today and found he has a 2005 model sitting in his [quoted text clipped - 37 lines] >----------------- >www.thesnoman.com not that much difference in price around here, but my ctd gets much better mileagge than my dodge 360 ever got in its best wet dream. anyway, to each his own i guess and again, i am debating the technical merits, mine are just comments from someone that has driven both, used both as daily drivers and towed the same loads with both. if you think a gasser is better..................well, then drive a gasser. >not that much difference in price around here, but my ctd gets much >better mileagge than my dodge 360 ever got in its best wet dream. >anyway, to each his own i guess and again, i am debating the technical >merits, mine are just comments from someone that has driven both, used >both as daily drivers and towed the same loads with both. if you >think a gasser is better..................well, then drive a gasser. My main experience with TD's in pickups is from RV trips with friends... Lots of comparison over the CB's about speed/rpm/etc and IMO, TD is the way to go if you tow a lot... Last trip that I remember was about 400 mile round trip, our 360 1/2 ton gasser pulling 6,000 pound travel trailer and our friends in a ferd 3/4 with TD pulling an 11,000 5th wheel... We were cruising at a little over 60 and or rpm was about 2,700.. his was about 1,600 if I remember right... I know it was much lower than ours.. He averaged 13 mpg on the trip, we averaged a little over 8 mpg.. Not enough for us to justify a new truck because we're weekend warriors, but the difference when you do a lot of towing can be dramatic... Our "test" was on flat freeway, I won't talk about the difference in speed and rpm on grades :( >>not that much difference in price around here, but my ctd gets much >>better mileagge than my dodge 360 ever got in its best wet dream. [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] >Our "test" was on flat freeway, I won't talk about the difference in speed and >rpm on grades :( that is pretty accurate. my 360 averaged about 14 around town, and about 7 towing (heavy load). on a highway trip i got about 15, maybe 16 with a wind. my ctd gets 15 around town, 21 or 22 on a highway trip and anywhere from 10 (uphill pull) to 13 (flat pull) towing, but my trailer is heavier now.....probably around 11k. my ctd is a 3500 and i really like the feel of that, the way it drives, a lot better than the 1500 gasser. it is an '03 so it isn't too noisy. i just like the way the ctd drives a whole lot better than the gasser. > I have towed with gas for years and I have no plans of changing now. > never had any problems if they are properly geared for the load. I like > the quietness of a gas motor and I am not found of the oder of diesel > fuel or exhaust. What the heck??? Do you drive in reverse all the time? How is it you're smelling the exhaust so much? > > I have towed with gas for years and I have no plans of changing now. > > never had any problems if they are properly geared for the load. I like [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > What the heck??? Do you drive in reverse all the time? How is it you're > smelling the exhaust so much? How about sitting in traffic or even parking it and god forbid you think about others on the road. SignatureIf at first you don't succeed, you're not cut out for skydiving > How about sitting in traffic or even parking it and god forbid you think > about others on the road. Is he considering "others" when he's doing the job with a vehicle that uses twice as much fossil fuel, at a higher level of refining to boot? I, personally, am proud of my contributions to the environment by using a vehicle that makes far more efficient use of our precious, dwindling, holy-crap-we're-gonna-run-out-tomorrow limited supply of long-chained hydrocarbons. And, given that carbon is the building block of life, I figure contributing a little here and there into the lower atmosphere is only promoting that life. >> How about sitting in traffic or even parking it and god forbid you think >> about others on the road. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >figure contributing a little here and there into the lower atmosphere is >only promoting that life. lol. good answer. > > How about sitting in traffic or even parking it and god forbid you think > > about others on the road. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > figure contributing a little here and there into the lower atmosphere is > only promoting that life. If you really believed that, then what are you doing with that V10 and does you job require the use of those trucks? SignatureIf at first you don't succeed, you're not cut out for skydiving > If you really believed that, then what are you doing with that V10 Better that I keep it and use it occasionally, in fact sparingly (re: pretty much when my diesel is immobile due to one of my various 'projects') rather than let it fall into the hands of some eco-enemy, who will no doubt gallavant all over the north-east countryside, spewing it's billionths of tons of pollutants on the unsuspecting lichen and tree moss indiginous to the area. >> If you really believed that, then what are you doing with that V10 > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > billionths of tons of pollutants on the unsuspecting lichen and tree moss > indiginous to the area. Damn...I wish I could "gallavant" around again..............sigh Denny > Damn...I wish I could "gallavant" around again..............sigh Oh, so sue me for not using the damn spell-checker :) :) Wow ... here you go getting passionate again. Being a tree hugger myself, I had to think long and hard about owning a diesel since they are capable for producing more pollution than a gas engine. However, I do believe that bio-diesel is the future of diesel fuel. Which, so far, has very promising stats when it comes to pollution. I think that we will be able to start using it within the next year, here in Dallas. http://www.dfwbiodiesel.com/biodiesel.html We, as a nation, are in the process of rounding the corner, finally, on alternative fuel vehicles. Until that becomes the mainstream, we are bound by our own ignorance (lack of public transportation in most cites and urban sprawl requiring long commutes). However, the future is bright compared to 25 years ago. >spewing it's billionths of tons of pollutants on the unsuspecting lichen and tree moss >indiginous to the area. Your technical sense of humor is always good for a laugh. However, it isn't the loss of moss that chaps my a.s. It's when I coast over a hill at 190 and Midway and I see a greenish-grey ring surrounding the city. That's not good for anything or anyone. Craig C. > Being a tree hugger myself, I had to think long and hard about owning a > diesel since they are capable for producing more pollution than a gas [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > http://www.dfwbiodiesel.com/biodiesel.html The newer diesel engines (from Europe and Germany in particular) are really quite clean running, and on a long ride, give better fuel economy than even the hybrids that are becoming all the rage. The [German] diesel has lost out to the hybrid [Japanese] in the push for higher mileage vehicles. Hybrid probably has the edge in lower pollutants, but the new, small, turbocharged diesels aren't bad at all! Combine that with a cleaner burning biodiesel fuel and one seems to have a winner. SMH > Do I need to be worried? Nope. The CTD will pull that no problem. SignatureMax Give a man a match, and he is warm for a short while. Light him on fire, and he is warm for the rest of his life. >I have a 26-5c Arctic Fox 2006 5th Wheel on order, due end of October. I >visited the dealer today and found he has a 2005 model sitting in his [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >ever using the OD feature with this new trailer. I know nothing about the >power of a 360 Dodge vs my truck. Do I need to be worried? > I have a 26-5c Arctic Fox 2006 5th Wheel on order, due end of October. I > visited the dealer today and found he has a 2005 model sitting in his [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > using the OD feature with this new trailer. I know nothing about the power > of a 360 Dodge vs my truck. Do I need to be worried? Yes, be very worried. Every time you encounter a grade while pulling your trailer with your CTD, you run a very high risk of running the gassers over. ;-) >>I have a 26-5c Arctic Fox 2006 5th Wheel on order, due end of October. I >>visited the dealer today and found he has a 2005 model sitting in his [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > your CTD, you run a very high risk of running the gassers over. > ;-) You should have no problems but even a 360 properly geared would pull it okay. It is likely that the person that pulled it with a 360 had a 3.55 axle ratio and it would tow poorly on hills with that and a gas 360. Signature----------------- www.thesnoman.com >>I have a 26-5c Arctic Fox 2006 5th Wheel on order, due end of October. I >>visited the dealer today and found he has a 2005 model sitting in his [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > your CTD, you run a very high risk of running the gassers over. > ;-) I have a '96 single axle 1 ton, CTD extended cab, long box, auto with 3.55 axle and carry an 2000 lb truck camper which is like driving a billboard. Only once have I taken it out of OD. I get sick and tired of gassers than won't pull over into the 25-35 mph lane. I am quite sure that the 18 wheelers do to! My wife wants to move so I told her, no problem, pick a site, get a big chain and I will haul the house to where you want! :) And your truck has more power. LJB > >>I have a 26-5c Arctic Fox 2006 5th Wheel on order, due end of October. I > >>visited the dealer today and found he has a 2005 model sitting in his [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > chain and I will haul the house to where you want! :) And your truck > has more power. LJB I hear ya! (not sure that SnoMan gets it though...) >> >>I have a 26-5c Arctic Fox 2006 5th Wheel on order, due end of October. >> >>I [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > I hear ya! > (not sure that SnoMan gets it though...) I have a 92 W250, 360, 5 speed, 4X4 w/4.10 gears and a 04, 2500, CTD, 6 speed, 4X4 w/3.73 gears. The Diesel will out pull the gas truck with out trying. And it gets better mileage pulling a 6,000 pound trailer than the gas truck gets empty. GM has a 650 ft. pound Diesel now. Can't wait to see Dodge's response to it:) Snowman needs to drive a new Diesel and then tell us about it. Al > > I hear ya! > > (not sure that SnoMan gets it though...) [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Al Got a 95 Dakota 4X4 club cab with a 3.9 auto and 3:55 gears and a 97 2500 club cab CTD auto, 3:54 gears, the CTD gets better mileage than the Dak even when the 2500 has my 'cuda hitched behind it on a trailer (guessing 5000# tow weight) The thing SnoMan is forgetting is that his gear ratios ain't worth diddly when pulling a loaded trailer up a mountain. No way in hell the gears are going to compensate as the air gets thinner. My wish list has DaimlerChryCo offering a 4 cylinder turbo diesel in the Dakota. Hell, a NA diesel would get my interest! > My wish list has DaimlerChryCo offering a 4 cylinder turbo diesel > in the Dakota. Hell, a NA diesel would get my interest! me too and i dont see why they wouldnt. they have the liberty crd.... unless that would make way too much sense. >I have a 26-5c Arctic Fox 2006 5th Wheel on order, due end of October. I >visited the dealer today and found he has a 2005 model sitting in his [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >using the OD feature with this new trailer. I know nothing about the power >of a 360 Dodge vs my truck. Do I need to be worried? You shouldn't have any problems. My father towed a 12,000 lb fiver all over the country for years with a 92 -3/4 CTD 12 valve/auto tranny with no problems whatsoever. Greg Thanks for the advice and comments. Believe me, I feel a heck of a lot better after reading these post. >I have a 26-5c Arctic Fox 2006 5th Wheel on order, due end of October. I >visited the dealer today and found he has a 2005 model sitting in his [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >ever using the OD feature with this new trailer. I know nothing about the >power of a 360 Dodge vs my truck. Do I need to be worried? >I have a 26-5c Arctic Fox 2006 5th Wheel on order, due end of October. I >visited the dealer today and found he has a 2005 model sitting in his [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >using the OD feature with this new trailer. I know nothing about the power >of a 360 Dodge vs my truck. Do I need to be worried? IMHO, if you can't pull it with your CTD, it shouldn't be pulled... I have the 360 gas engine and would guess that you'd need about 2 1/2 of them to equal the TD, and we pull a 28 foot, 6,000 pound trailer with it... YMMV 03 Tahoe Widelite 26GT Travel Trailer 99 Dodge Ram QQ 2wd - 5.9L, auto, 3:55 gears >>I have a 26-5c Arctic Fox 2006 5th Wheel on order, due end of October. I >>visited the dealer today and found he has a 2005 model sitting in his [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > 03 Tahoe Widelite 26GT Travel Trailer > 99 Dodge Ram QQ 2wd - 5.9L, auto, 3:55 gears No you just need better gearing. Tall gears that some pickups come with really can cripple performance. While a 3.55 or 3.73 might worlk well with a oil burner, you need a 4.10 or 4.56 to get the best out of a gas motor in a heavy pull because it has a differnet power curve. Signature----------------- www.thesnoman.com > >>I have a 26-5c Arctic Fox 2006 5th Wheel on order, due end of October. I > >>visited the dealer today and found he has a 2005 model sitting in his [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > with a oil burner, you need a 4.10 or 4.56 to get the best out of a gas > motor in a heavy pull because it has a differnet power curve. also i feel you should note he said the owner of the "other truck" felt there was a problem. you can take 5 people off the street and put them in the exact same truck pulling the exact same trailer and get 5 differnt reports as to how it performs. atleast thats been my experiance. chris > ----------------- > www.thesnoman.com Christopher Thompson wrote: >>>On Thu, 06 Oct 2005 00:43:28 GMT, "Dennis" <lawrenceda@hotmail.com> > [quoted text clipped - 54 lines] >>----------------- >>www.thesnoman.com This is true because some think it is normal or okay to tow in second gear on interstate hills while others do not. Myself I do not consider using second gear on a interstate hill a viable option. Signature----------------- www.thesnoman.com >>>I have a 26-5c Arctic Fox 2006 5th Wheel on order, due end of October. I >>>visited the dealer today and found he has a 2005 model sitting in his [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] >with a oil burner, you need a 4.10 or 4.56 to get the best out of a gas >motor in a heavy pull because it has a differnet power curve. Not for us, Sno.. it pulls ok when we need it to, and it's also a daily driver... the 14 - 15 mpg on trips and maybe 11 in town are bad enough with the 3.55.. *g* >>>>I have a 26-5c Arctic Fox 2006 5th Wheel on order, due end of October. I >>>>visited the dealer today and found he has a 2005 model sitting in his [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > driver... > the 14 - 15 mpg on trips and maybe 11 in town are bad enough with the 3.55.. *g* You need a 3.55 with a diesel because of its limited RPM range so that does not mean much. The false edge that oil burner gets towing is that some people have a mental block about deeper gear ratios with a gas motor. The though of a 4.56 with a small block scares them off but OD takes it down to about a effective 3.2 or so. You can tow some very serious weight with a gas motor and a 4.56. Heck I drove a 427 powered 20 sp triaxle dumptruck in the later 70's while attending college. It weighed 20k empty and 60 k loaded. It was pretty perky empty for it size and could still hit and hold 60 to 65 on faily flat ground hauling 20 tons with its "weak" gas motor. It is all in the gearing. BTW I used to average about 5 MPG with it and about 7 to 8 MPG with a C60 single axle dump with a 10 speed and 366 hauling 8 tons or so. My 2000 SRW K3500 does not see much daily use but it averages about 13 around town and 16 to 17 on the road. DUring the winter when loaded with salt and plow I average about 9 or 10 overall. It is long paid for and if I repolaced it tommorrow it would be with another gas truck (Not planning to for a few years at soonest though), with money saved on cheaper truck I get and keep some econoboxs for most daily chores and the big iron last a lot longer and the fuel saved pays for the econobox too. So rather than have a truck with 100k plus after five years, I have one with 30 or 40k and and a paid for econobox for same money or less. Signature----------------- www.thesnoman.com Dennis, You should love your Fox, very well built and handles well. I have an '04 24-5N and have almost 25,000 miles on it, coast to coast and up to Coldfoot, AK and back. We chose the 24-5N to ride behind our '03 2500 CTD, 4WD, LB, to stay within the weight limits of the truck. With a 1200# pin weight (dry), the fresh and black water tanks forward of the Fox's axles, the way my wife packs (I didn't say packrat, did I?) and the weight of her, me and the stuff in the cab, weight was a concern. Will your CTD pull it? Oh, yeah....... it will pull it just fine. Is it within the weight limits of your truck, brakes, suspension, etc??? I dunno, you may want to look into that if you haven't already. The Fox you picked looks real nice. A suggestion though, don't take it to Coldfoot. FMB >I have a 26-5c Arctic Fox 2006 5th Wheel on order, due end of October. I >visited the dealer today and found he has a 2005 model sitting in his [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >using the OD feature with this new trailer. I know nothing about the power >of a 360 Dodge vs my truck. Do I need to be worried? not worried, but a little concerned. i pulled about that same weight with a 360 gasser and was just not happy. at least you have a 2500, mine was a 1500 and the weight was just too much for the rear end. it swayed all over. the problem with the weight and a 2500 is discussed all the time over at tdr, everyone has their own opinion. i think you will be ok, but you will probably be over the rating of the truck. if i remember right, the 2500 is 8800 lb, maybe 9000. your truck is probably around 7200 to 7400, so you have about 1500 to 1800 pounds to stay within the rating dodge gives you. you addd what you put in the trailer, propane, water, the pin weight of the truck, you and your passengers, etc., and you are probably over. i don't think that is a big deal and the truck will be fine, but for peace of mind you may want to look at a 3500 srw, which gives you another 9900 pounds rating. now on the tranny. my first ctd had the 47re, which may be what you have. i think you are over the ability of that tranny to tow for any period of time. that tranny was the weak spot in my '01 ctd. can't tell you haw many people i meet that have the 47re that have had to rebuild the tranny several times. in late '03, dodge went to the 48re and that is what i have now. it is a huge improvement and i havve had no trouble towing 11k with it. the 12 valve does pull good though, especially at lower rpms. i talk to some people that like it better than the 24 valve. you could upgrade the tranny to ats or dtt and then spice up the engince with some mods. btw, the fox is a great fifth wheel. i didn't get one but as i looked around i found no one that didn't love theirs. they are made in oregon. >>I have a 26-5c Arctic Fox 2006 5th Wheel on order, due end of October. I >>visited the dealer today and found he has a 2005 model sitting in his [quoted text clipped - 36 lines] >around i found no one that didn't love theirs. they are made in >oregon. A nice compromise is to get the 2500 and put a good set of air bags in... They boast the load rating (but not the max tow rating) and help you keep the truck/trailer level... A big plus is that you can take the bags down to 4 or 5 psi when you run empty and you get a nice smooth ride.. mac Please remove splinters before emailing >>>I have a 26-5c Arctic Fox 2006 5th Wheel on order, due end of October. I >>>visited the dealer today and found he has a 2005 model sitting in his [quoted text clipped - 47 lines] > >Please remove splinters before emailing interesting. alot of discussion around here on the air bags. i don't have them but i have friends that do. they all love them. the techs (the guys that install them and a friend that builds custom trucks for towing rv's) say they are cosmetic. they make you feel better but do not increase the payload rating. they caution not to exceed the payload rating of the truck just due to air bags. looking at the '06, a 2500 diesel auto has a payload rating of 1670 pounds. a 3500 srw diesel auto has a payload rating of 2500 pounds. I can't remember what the '03 ratings were but they were very similar. my brother had a '03 2500 ctd auto. we test drove the 3500 srw ctd auto and we agreed it actually had a better ride. i have had several comments from people that have ridden with me since then that my 3500 rides better than their 2500. this has been discussed over at tdr too, with opinions more varied but all in all the 3500 seems to have the most "best ride" comments. based on that, i paid a couple hundred extra to get the 3500. my new fifth wheel has a pin weight of about 2k, so i am really glad i did now. i imagine that when loaded i am over the payload rating of 2500 pounds, but i would be way over the 1670 pound rating on a 2500 and i would be uncomfortable about trying to make that up with air bags. i see people do it and they seem to get away with it just fine, but i would worry about it. like most things in life, either way probably works out fine, it just comes down to what you are comfortable with. >>A nice compromise is to get the 2500 and put a good set of air bags in... >>They boast the load rating (but not the max tow rating) and help you keep the [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] >things in life, either way probably works out fine, it just comes down >to what you are comfortable with. From what I understand (mostly from this group), the main difference between the 2500 and 3500 is the overload shocks on the 3500? and the tacky cab lights.. vroom, vroom, I'm a trucker.. mac Please remove splinters before emailing > > A nice compromise is to get the 2500 and put a good set of air bags in... > They boast the load rating (but not the max tow rating) and help you keep the > truck/trailer level... > > A big plus is that you can take the bags down to 4 or 5 psi when you run empty > and you get a nice smooth ride.. You sure? They may increase the load you can safely carry but I don't believe they change the legal load rating at all. > > >> A nice compromise is to get the 2500 and put a good set of air bags in... [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >You sure? They may increase the load you can safely carry but I don't >believe they change the legal load rating at all. dunno, Jerry... but if I'm towing non-commercial, all I'm concerned with is safety... mac Please remove splinters before emailing |
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